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Get a good understanding of HTML, CSS and JavaScript.
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hackr.io
>Further resources
developer.mozilla.org
github.com
youtube.com
jsfiddle.net - Use this and post a link, if you need help with your HTML/CSS/JS
>How do I get a web dev job without a degree? What online courses do I need to watch?
This question gets asked every single thread so I'll try and head it off now.
Yes, some high-profile bloggers etc have senior developer jobs without every going to university/college. They generally invented significant technologies though, or founded successful startups or otherwise made contributions that are recognised across the industry, especially by the big players.
You can get a job without a degree if you're someone like that, which you're not because you're asking how to be successful...without hard work...on Jow Forums.
The other way is basically nepotism, if your uncle owns a little software company, he might give you a job. If your family friend needs a website, they might pay you to build it. Once you have some experience, it gets easier to get a job.
If you don't have solutions like these available to you then you probably can't actually get a web dev job without a degree, sorry. You can argue about whether degrees teach you to be a developer and you can argue about whether the student debt is worth it but from an employer perspective, nobody hires someone because they have 'pluck' or have watched some online courses. And those online courses have a narrow focus that won't equal the breadth of skills and knowledge that university teachers, if you want some examples, check back a few threads for the user that tried to get a PHP job and failed the technical interview because they didn't have database skills as well. You need a lot more than just one or two languages to be a developer.
Is there any decent and reasonable case use for JavaScript? Because I see all these "frameworks" and can't avoid thinking they're the devil.
gz promoting getting debt and no actual skill. getting a job without going to uni is easy as long as you have work to show off.
t. el uni professor
>Is there any decent and reasonable case use for JavaScript?
Yes. It's the default language of the web. Applications are pretty endless. NodeJS on the backend, Electron for desktop apps, etc
>Because I see all these "frameworks" and can't avoid thinking they're the devil.
Learn one of React, Angular, or Vue. There's nothing inherently wrong with them, but frameworks are meant for scale, not microsites. Being allergic to frameworks as a whole will not do good for your career.
>tfw I graduated from a 2 year college course in web dev with a 65% failure/dropout hold-over rate with highest average
>learned everything from java to linux to python, asp.net,IIS django, php, swift, C#, frontend and backend js, SQL and ORM and how to set up servers and environments to run and host all this shit
>pretty much 75% of this github.com
>get webdev dream job at vidya game company within a week of graduating
>tfw some guy idly googling css and wordpress "whenever he feels like it" thinks its unfair that he can't get a job because he has to compete with people with actual skills that cost actual money to learn and the youtube guy told him it was cheap/easy/free
I know you mean well but NodeJS and Electron are abominations that only serve to validate ignorant hipster faggots who think they're the code artisans or some other meaningless title. JS is plagued with problems on the web, why would I want it on the server or desktop?
>frameworks are the devil
No, frameworks are there for two reasons. 1. Multiple people working on the same code base on large apps can learn it quicker, because most frameworks (well, MV* ones) are pretty much the same and prevent people from fucking up. 2. If you can git gewd with a framework you can shit out webapps all day long by yourself.
>he doesn't know about EC6 or typescript implementations
Hows 2014 going?
I'm making the point that JS is flexible enough to be used in those contexts, doesn't really matter what I think because there are always going to be companies look for NodeJS or Electron expertise