Water cooling

So is it better than the regular air cooling?

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Custom watercooling loops are generally slightly better that high-end air coolers, especially if multiple GPUs are involved, but at like 300% of the price.
Closed coolers are just a dumb meme.

It has marginal improvements. Like your idle temperature of 30-40C is gonna stay at 30C, then when it gets hotter instead of running at 70 or 80C it's gonna stay at 65C. Then after a while the water will all reach a hot temperature and idle at that temp. The problem with water cooling is when it heats up, it just transports hot water around your system. It's mostly an aesthetics thing. Instead of having cables you have colorful tubes everywhere.

>Then after a while the water will all reach a hot temperature and idle at that temp
Radiators are pretty damn effective. You only get those high idle temps if you're using a passive radiator.

If you live in a hot area the radiator doesn't do the best job. Ever been in an australian summer where the temperature hits 45C?

That affects air coolers equally as much.
As a method for dumping heat out of a system, I imagine a radiator would perform reasonably similarly to a heatsink. I don't have any stats on which one is actually better, though.
It's just that radiators allow you to choose where to dump the heat, so you don't have things like GPUs heating up all of the components around them.

unless you go a 280mm rad or bigger it wont be any better than the best air cooler you can get your hands on.(noctua d-15)
>EVGA 280 CLC is prob best imo if you don't want full custom loopage
check out gamers nexus, they have a huge chart with all the closed loop/semi open loop coolers that they have tested

>Custom watercooling loops are generally slightly better that high-end air coolers
Basically this.
For an anecdotal account, my system that typically idled high thirties to flat forties averaged across the cores, and after an hour of Prime95 would fluctuate between low seventies to flat eighty fitted with a Noctua D14.
These days it's got an EK-WB Evo Supremacy block that's cooled with a slim 360 radiator (overkill I know, but in anticipation for GPU cooling) it idles at flat thirty and fluctuates between mid sixties to low seventies with the same Prime95 test. Biggest difference between the two setups is cost and labour. The Noctua is $110au an takes 30 seconds to fit where as the water setup cost me close to $500 and half a day of planning out, flushing, heating and bending tube, mixing, leak testing etc...
One benefit is an ever so slightly more silent system than the already impressive Noctua as long as you have a DDC or D5 pump, but the biggest benefit will be adding a GPU to the loop which is now the loudest and hottest component.
For reference my CPU is a 3930k at [email protected].
>The problem with water cooling is when it heats up, it just transports hot water around your system. It's mostly an aesthetics thing. Instead of having cables you have colorful tubes everywhere
Water will reach an equilibrium, but that's not the temperature of the component it's cooling.
>If you live in a hot area the radiator doesn't do the best job. Ever been in an australian summer where the temperature hits 45C?
The radiator still does a better job than an air cooler, and yes, I live in Aus.

If you don't plan on heavy overclocking with still low noise,
If you are on a budget,
If don't want the experience of setting up more advanced cooling or going for a certain look..

Then stick with air.

There are lots of very good air coolers around, and custom watercooling loops (which can be much better than air, if you have on of the before mentioned needs) are very expensive.

If you're considering water, I whould buy quality components used.

>bought AiO cooler
>pump is louder than any fan could ever be
I fucking got jewed by the memes.

Also, why do all techtubers claim that shit is silent?
Pumps are obnoxious. Most "silent" fans are obnoxious. It's like they have no standards at all.

Run your pump at a lower speed. The performance difference is neglectable.

So would anyone like to show me proof there are high end gpu's that are air cooled under furmark at 60C? Because I have my doubts.

Why?

Because CPUs are one thing and gpus are another.

GPU cooling is probably the biggest benefit of a custom loop. Sure, I know there have been tower cooling solutions for GPUs previously, but they're not a practical option unlike slapping a water block on.

water cooling only seems useful for gpus. I'm surprised there aren't more closed loop ones sold. I never hear my cpu fan even if using a shitty one but gpus get load as fuck.

*loud

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Well it's almost 60C and it's infinitively more practical than water cooling.

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The main benefit I can think of is form factor. AIO may allow for a smaller case and better RAM clearance. The AIO I use is very quiet and has a 5 year warranty so I doubt it will be a problem piece. H100i V2 I think it is. Enermax and Noctua do make coolers that do a better job, but I trade off peace of mind. It does turbo to 3.7Ghz sometimes so that's not too bad of a cooler.

Maybe newer hardware its not as noticable, but on my 7-8 y/o motherboard running air cooler the gfx heats up the board, in turn the north bridge gets hot and locks the pc up
Now using a water cooler and placing the radiator and reserve away from the mobo and it runs fine

I guess pc term is 'liquid cooler' but ive been using extremely clean water (so its non conductive) for 4 or so years now, still runs fine

Was actually doing that.
It shut off before it became sufficiently quiet with my fan controller.

Ever heard of AC?

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>bought 1950x
>fell for the AIO meme
>bought Enermax TR4 360
>it wasn't a meme
>pump at full tilt is silent and can passively cool it with no fans
>fans can run quiet enough to provide airflow
>will hit the silicon limit before the thermal limit when overclocking
>has fill ports on the side of the block

I don't know why Jow Forums has a problem with AIOs maybe you should try some decent ones before you shit on them

enjoy your pump failure

The only question you need to ask yourself is; how much effort do you want to put into your system. You need to MAINTAIN a water loop. Draining and dismantling it at least every 2 years. Brushing out blocks and checking seals.
If you're the kind of person who doesn't dust their PC, don't run a loop.

My only problem is the GPU.

My 3930k is silent with Noctua, but the moment I start any game, by 7970GHz deafenes me.

If water cooler can solve this, it's worth a shot.

Mine leaked, fucked my gpu. Never again.gif

This. I ran an H100i on a FX8230 for like 6 years.. and then cleaned up that system and gifted it to a friend. AIOs are boss. All the befits of an open loop with none of the headaches. I run an open loop now because most of the parts were free. I wouldn't have done it this way otherwise.

My H100i V2 is very quiet, and under heavy load I never go above 40C. I think you just have to put the radiator in a good position.

How? My pump is silent on my x62 even at full speed. Are you guys buying shitty AIOs and spreading the meme?

>Heaven
reread my post silly, I'm not moving goalposts I'm asking for furmark not heaven.

water cooling only really made sense from 2001-2006 once core2duo came out there was no reason to watercool. Every one that watercools now was just around in the early 2000s and has nostalgia for it.

GPU cooling is literally pointless. CPU cooling only makes sense if you use a AIO in a tiney case that cant fit a air cooler.

customs loops are 100% for looks only.

maybe if they make CPU that runns hotter again watercooling will be viable but till then its pointless.

also noise wise if you want no noise a fanless air cooler will be better than a noisy pump.

>GPU cooling is literally pointless
lol what. GPUs the only thing that makes sense for water cooling.

people have different opinion of what "silent is" you probably have noisy fans and PSU wine so you think your pump is silent. its not.

even the most extream GPU overclock is 100% doable on default fan so no watercooling a GPU is pointless. gpu clocks stop before heat doe

and it's going to sound like a jet engine

>You need to MAINTAIN a water loop.

This. This is by far the biggest annoyance with water cooling.

no it wont. GPU can only over clock a little bit and the fans will only be louder when your gaming and have noise from game any way.

>when your gaming

in that case I'd just stick with my igpu and not even use a gpu

You probably think you aren't a fucking faggot.

Think again.

>sour grapes
Also,
>your, any way
You must be at least 18 years of age to post on this board, user.

no you guys are retarded, my pump is not loud at all and my fans are still louder. I can have a normal conversation with someone and not hear my computer running a stress test.

Yes. Imagine your system being at full load and having your fans running only at 600rpm.

Only worth when you care about the last 5 % or absolut quietness. I wanted a loop for years but Pascal is voltage locked anyway. I run my Ti near 1V which makes it cooler and quieter, at acceptable levels.

Fuck off mate, let's see you fit a d14 in 30 seconds