If you want help >State the budget for your build >List your uses- e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
Overclocking >DON'T BUY AN 8000K CPU OR Z300 BOARD IF YOU AREN'T OVERCLOCKING >Delid 8000K >Use Precision Boost Overdrive & BCLK increase for Ryzen 2000X >Use a real stress test & trustworthy temp software- e.g. IntelBurnTest & Core Temp
CPUs >2200G- Bare minimum gaming (dGPU optional) >2400G- Consider if close to 2200G price >2600/X- Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >2700/X- Best mixed usage >8700K- Best for gaming, but most expensive platform & delid necessary >Threadripper/used Xeon- VM work/streaming/video editing
Motherboards >Don't buy A320 (All Ryzen are unlocked) >Only Z300 Intel boards can utilize memory over 2666MHz
RAM >8GB- Enough for most gaming use >16GB- Standard for heavy use >32GB- Too much for most users >2933MHz is ideal; 3200 CL14 is B-die
Storage >StoreMI can make HDDs better >Consider getting a larger SSD instead of SSD+HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 might be SATA or PCIe >PCIe/NVMe for intensive use only
Video cards >SLI & CrossFire are unadvisable 1080p >1050 Ti, 1060 3/6GB, or 570/580 >1070 or Vega 56 for 100+ fps 1440p >1070/Ti, 1080, or Vega 56/64 >1080 Ti for 100+ fps 2160p >1080 Ti
Power supplies >Fully modular is very convenient >80+ Platinum is overpriced
Monitors >Explain purpose- e.g. photo editing, gaming >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >G-SYNC only with high budget/GTX card >Consider FreeSync with RX cards/APUs >Low refresh rates benefit less from better CPUs
Should i buy a gigabyte vega 56 gaming oc for $620 or should i buy a asus vega 56 strix for $720? Prices are Australian dollars.
Carter Bailey
I hope all you first world babs are grateful to your gods for your privileges, I'm about to drop 2600USD on a system which would cost 1600USD in the US, and the average monthly wage in my country is 350USD. I also get to enjoy waiting a month for it and having no warranty on any of the parts.
Jose Rogers
Okay /pcbg/ it might be upgrade time for me
Budget: 1200 Uses: Gaming (1080p)
I want tons of RAM so I can multi-task without closing anything.
I could reuse my SSD and optical drive from my older desktop. Everything else I want to be new.
Hunter Bennett
Can I get a rate on this?
Building a computer mostly for Adobe CC work (After Effects / Photoshop the biggest uses) and some occasional gaming.
CPU >i7 8700 (No plans for overclocking)
Mobo >Asus 2370-Pro (buying for M.2 memory in the future)
RAM >16gb Corsair
>GPU Asus GTX 1060 GB
>Power Thermaltake 650W
>Monitor LG 27UD69-W (Looking for a balance of colour accuracy and refresh rate, must be 4K)
Hudson Lewis
I need an upgrade to my GTX 580 I have a 1680x1050 screen and I don't really see a reason to upgrade that. What grafix card do I need ot make sure I can run games without fps drops for the next, say, 5 years? Like 1070?
Jacob Garcia
>he wants to be enslaved by the mutts now that's a good goy
Don't buy the Gigabyte. It's the worst one by far and has issues that make it not worth buying if they haven't fixed them. Can you not get the red dragon or pulse for around the Gigabyte price?
I would say the Strix is worth about 10% more than a lower end model but it's 20% for you so probably not worth it.
Actually.. Compared to 1070Ti prices, that Strix price really isn't that bad and that Gigabyte one just seems to be unusually cheap? So maybe go ahead and get the Strix. Or get the Gigabyte and replace it with an Artic Accelero or Morpheus II.
Clearly you have much more money than the average person in your country, so you're doing fine.
Hard to say without price. Put your parts at their prices in pcpp. But it seems okay. Would assume you should get a dedicated scratch disk as after effects and photoshop both will make a lot of use of it.
RX560 or GTX 1050 would be fine. Like a 30-40% upgrade at insanely lower power usage.
Brody Torres
>Don't buy the Gigabyte. It's the worst one by far and has issues that make it not worth buying if they haven't fixed them. what issues?
gigabyte is a deal right now. for reference an msi blower card is also 720
Chase Cooper
>GTX 1050 Why not the 1070 or 1050 ti to be more "future proof"? My budget isn't that tight, I have no problem spending 600 bucks or so Though I have to say I don't know at what point my CPU (i5 3470) would start bottlenecking
Christian Mitchell
Budget: Whatever's needed I want to build a laptop that just acts as a samsung dex shell, i.e. just plug my samsung in and dex loads up. Then use the laptop screen, keyboard and trackpad at a minimum. What would I need to make this work?
Sebastian Reyes
>what issues? Do you not see bad user reviews from it with your retailers? Try looking at US ones.
The cooler does not contact the HBM, and does not cool it correctly, which causes artifacts and bugs.
Because you have a fucking 1680x1050 monitor. A 1050 or RX560 is going to run that great.
RX580 is already overkill for 1080p 60fps in almost everything, including games that've come out 2 years after the Polaris' release, at least if you play on high settings instead of maxed which looks the same but just runs worse.
A 1070 on that resolution would be ultra retarded. Donate $200 to charity instead. >I have no problem spending 600 bucks or so Then get an RX580 and a new 1080p 144hz monitor like from the build below. That works out to $491.
You can still use your current monitor as a second monitor then. But don't do that with Nvidia because it will stutter if you mixmatch monitor refresh rates even when just web browsing.
>I don't know at what point my CPU (i5 3470) would start bottlenecking It will bottleneck. That CPU will not reliably get you 60fps minimums while those CPUs will. It's massively worse than a 3770, and a 3770 is far from sufficient now days either with how resource intensive many things people run in the background have gotten, and with games using a lot more CPU lately. You'd probably get around 2-4x the 1% minimums or more moving to a 6c/12t CPU in real world usage.
pcpartpicker.com/list/zv3MFt Are you sure your current SSD is good and you don't want an update? Have you run a test on it to see how much write is left on it? If it's fine, just get rid of the SSD.
>The cooler does not contact the HBM wouldnt extra cooling paste fix this
Landon Moore
What should i get as a cooler for 2600x? Any suggested brands? Posted in the old thread also.
Leo Russell
anyone mine here? is it worth it in current year and date
Evan Brown
d15 u14 212x in that order
Zachary Collins
>1050 or RX560 is going to run that great Yes, but for how long? The 1 or 2 PC ports I play a year keep getting more and more unoptimized. I don't care about high grafix settings but I don't wanna have to upgrade again in 3 years just to be able to play 60 FPS at the lowest settings I'll look into upgrading my CPU as well, thanks
Adrian Taylor
3d printing for what?
Aaron Campbell
Like this?
The site didn't have exactly what I'm looking for so the price is slightly off
>CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($298.99 @ SuperBiiz) >Motherboard: Asus - Prime Z370-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($159.99 @ B&H) >Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($200.89 @ OutletPC) >Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Dual Video Card ($329.79 @ OutletPC) >Power Supply: Thermaltake - Toughpower Grand RGB 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($81.99 @ >SuperBiiz) >Monitor: LG - 27UD68-W 27.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor ($463.00 @ Amazon) >Total: $1534.65 >Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Other than that, is 16gb RAM enough for having a lot of large PSDs files loaded at once? I'm often working between photoshop, illustrator and after effects simultaneously
Hunter Johnson
So what motherboards do I get for either 2600X or 2700X?
Lincoln Hill
crsosshair vi or any cheap x370/470 board
Noah Ross
Any cheap one? What about all the fuss of VRMs and shit?
Eli Perry
x370s tend to have good vrms by default. imo avoid assrock boards
Henry Johnson
A little bit. But the cooler is also ass anyway.
>212x the fuck? It's the exact same as the wraith spire only it spins up higher so it gets louder. It's not actually better, it just has a higher RPM limit. Louder is not better.
Will still probably play PS5/XBox-next ports on medium settings at that low ass resolution. Tired of arguing with you tho. I gave you an alternate recommendation. But you'd also need a better CPU since your current one will bottleneck the fuck out of an RX580.
>The site didn't have exactly what I'm looking for so the price is slightly off That's what the custom button is for.
But that seems fine other than the memory being overpriced. I think there's some 3000 CL15 on sale for like $150 right now. Really 2666 would be fine when you're primarily not gaming.
PSU is too expensive. Get a Any cheap one? What about all the fuss of VRMs and shit? Afaik even the worst X470 board is 4*2 or 5 phase. Like the cheapest MSI is still 4*2. They're far better than the shitty cheap Z370 models. Like the Z370 MSI gaming pro carbon is 3*2 and $190 while the X470 MSI gaming pro carbon is $175 and 4*2 phase. lol. And the gaming pro has the same VRM it appears (could be bit better power station, mosfets, etc in carbon... but I doubt it) as the carbon one, but is $115-$130.
Mason Lee
>the fuck? It's the exact same as the wraith spire only it spins up higher so it gets louder. It's not actually better, it just has a higher RPM limit. Louder is not better. really? benchmarks?
Colton Harris
The SE-AM4 NH-D15 or NH-U12S or the True Spirit 140
Ethan Robinson
>Tired of arguing with you tho I wasn't arguing, I was asking questions cause I don't know shit Thanks for the help
Ian Fisher
Just tested my SSD and it says it's in good health.
Benjamin Young
>imo avoid assrock boards but why
>Afaik even the worst X470 board is 4*2 or 5 phase. Like the cheapest MSI is still 4*2. They're far better than the shitty cheap Z370 models. >Like the Z370 MSI gaming pro carbon is 3*2 and $190 while the X470 MSI gaming pro carbon is $175 and 4*2 phase. lol. And the gaming pro has the same VRM it appears (could be bit better power station, mosfets, etc in carbon... but I doubt it) as the carbon one, but is $115-$130. But how much do I neeeed?
Aiden Mitchell
>really? benchmarks? Aren't there like 50 youtube videos testing it? I can't bother to look it up. From memory, at the same dBA they perform the same, though. And anecdotally, we get people in /pcbg/ saying that their 212x is very loud. Which makes perfect damn sense if you LOOK at the thing. It's very clearly something more in the 125W TDP cooling range when you look at it, yet it claims 180W TDP. It may cool that much, but only by getting loud as fuck.
Ian Nelson
crap bios and qa issues. worst to ra
Christopher Hernandez
>I don't wanna have to upgrade again in 3 years Then save up for a 580 because 2GB will not be enough for high settings in 3 years
Ryan Stewart
>But how much do I neeeed?
4 true phases or 3*2 for 2600X. 5 true phases or 4*2 for 2700X or 8700k.
What's wrong with ASRock RMA? I've had known people to get replacements fine. If that's what you meant be "ra". And wtf? ASRock BIOS are fantastic.
That user is on 1680x1050 and doesn't want a new monitor. Even an RX560 4GB 1024SP card is pretty high end for that resolution and will probably play things on medium for years.
Also in 2 years, there'll probably be a new $150 card that's like GTX 1070 performance... so getting an RX560 plus another card in 2 years is cheaper than getting a 1070 now. Lmao.
I think it'd be super stupid to pay $280 for an RX580 now unless user is also going to get a new monitor. But his locked old 4c/4t will bottleneck it.
Blake Garcia
You'll need a cooler, the stock one will throttle the 8700 youtube.com/watch?v=W2HuMxB0qT0 I'd get the cheaper F4-3200C16D-16GVGB and a Focus Plus Gold 750W
Robert Ortiz
Ideal fan setups? I have a Meshify C. I have 4 120mm fans. It came with 2 fans. One intake on the front and one exhausting on the back.
What would be the ideal setup for my 4 fans? The Meshify C I believe can have 2 fans on the front, 2 on the back and 2 on the top. But I only have the 4 fans for the time being.
Justin Robinson
>And wtf? ASRock BIOS are fantastic. lol, the taichi getting broken every update sure is fantastic. rma it outside its doa period, gl
Brody Barnes
Need feedback for my gaming rig Jow Forums, trying not to spend more than $1200.
Sure, the GW2765HT for 60Hz or the NX-EDG27S for 144Hz
Caleb King
I just ordered 8700k and a zotac 1070 ti mini, planning to do a portable mini atx build (i move a lot and my laptop doesn't cut it anymore, for work nor simulations)
Hunter Rodriguez
It's a good option but if you can afford the Strix X470-F or the Crosshair VII they're better
Daniel Martin
Better how?
Michael Rodriguez
what gpu is good for video editing?
Justin Clark
>the taichi getting broken every update sure is fantastic Do you have a single fact to back that up?
Throw em in there and see what your cpu and gpu temps look like under load. Conventional wisdom would be two intake on the front panel, one top and one back exhaust in the top rear corner. Look up positive and negative pressure and decide which you want, then set it up in the coolest position taking into account your PSU fan and any cfm differences in between fan models
Gavin Murphy
video editing what if 1080p a used 750ti would be ok if 4k i think something like a 1050 should be enough macs manage to do 4k with fucking Intel Iris in ProRes
keep in mind that most of the work needs other components, the take a decent Ryzen, take at the very least 8gb of ram (it works but 16gb are better), use fast storage like 256gb ssd for the system, another 256gb ssd for projects you're working on and a 2TB HDD for archives
it all depends on what you need to do
David Perry
4k, mainly splicing and color correction
ive got a ryzen 1700, 16gb ram (is 32gb worth it, does it speed stuff up?) and a 960 evo already. gpu is a 1060 but idk if its good enough, never done this shit or got any idea.
im looking to make videos about 10-20 mins long
Xavier Hall
There are 2TB Micro SATA SSDs on sale for $380. I was considering buying 2 and using them for storage in addition to my 2 2TB 7200RPM HDDs. The main drive I'll be using will be an NVMe PCI-E 1TB drive, like Samsung, for reference. What are the pros and cons of this plan?
Brayden Cook
I'm going to be stuck with a wireless connection for a while. Any PCI-E Wifi card suggestions? I'll spend up to $100 if it's actually going to make a difference.
tp link 4800, never saw a point of the more expensive ones
Camden Walker
>better VRMS >gives a picture where Strix X470-F is the hottest both in stock and OC form Nani?
Caleb Kelly
Than the Gaming Plus user, the Crosshair VII is the best one in that graph
Jonathan Gonzalez
its been about 2 or 3 months since x470 launched have you cunts figured out which board is the most sensible option for letting XFR2 do its thing without unnecessarily spending money on stupid shit like an LN2 mode
Adrian Diaz
>the Crosshair VII is the best one in that graph Sure but is 4 degrees difference under OC really worth like 50-70 euro difference? This is the shit I hate about building a new computer. You got motherboards that cost 50 to 500 and yeah the more expensive are "better". But if cooling was in the same fucking park as motherboards youd have people telling you to get liquid nitrogen cooling because it's better.
Kayden Morales
Are different gpu lines just basically different cooler configurations? >Strix >FTW3 >etc If i intend to run my liquid cooling setup anyway, what's the difference? I guess vendor warranty support makes a difference, anything else?
Mason Mitchell
im not him but i have a vi which is essentially the same board (i think the vrm and bios is nearly identical). its amazing, so easy to work with and all the overclocking features are unrivaled. plus the shitload of usb ports is great. i only have 5 things plugged in now but i can have up to 10 or so plugged in when im fully set up.
theyre all the same fucking card. this is why you see people that are doing custom loops always opt for a reference card, like an asus turbo since theyre usually cheap. evga is the best in this regard because they offer warranty even after the seal is broken, although all vendors do if you push it on them.
Matthew Scott
>Mismatch monitor refresh rates If i do 3 wide monitors with the center as gsync (muh gayming), will there be issues simultaneously doing monitoring/browsing on the left/right screens?
>I just ordered 8700k and a zotac 1070 ti mini, planning to do a portable mini atx build (i move a lot and my laptop doesn't cut it anymore, for work nor simulations) Okay....
Thinking of building around a Ryzen 2600. All my research tells me RAM is really hit and miss with Ryzen though, and motherboard QVL isn't comprehensive enough to give me some good choices. Anyone with one recommend some decent 16gb kits that aren't the ridiculous 250$+ Samsung B-die kits? I'm looking around the 3000-3200 range.
I just ordered a Ryzen 5 2600 and a Radeon Vega 56 Nano, planning to do a portable mini itx build (i move a lot and my laptop doesn't cut it anymore, for work nor simulations)
Isaiah Ortiz
how much is flare x for you? just grab a vengeance kit and a 470 board if you really want
Board I'm getting is most likely going to be the Asus prime x470. I've checked almost everything on the QVL for compatibility and yeah, it's mostly painfully expensive.
Daniel Perez
Why bother wtih buying Ryzen and worrying about expensive RAM kits not working at their XMP profile when you can buy an Intel system on a cheap board and not worry about RAM at all?
well you can manually set timings which is usually alright. as long as its b die qvl doesnt really matter
Austin Lewis
Yeah, problem is all the B die I can find is significantly more expensive than the processor
Jordan Brown
then get hynix and run it at 2933, thats the trade off.
Josiah Price
So I'm thinking about getting a new cooler for my R5 1600. The stock cooler, while it gets the job done, isn't as quiet as I would like. I had a Hyper 212 Evo on my old FX 8320, and it kept that fucker ice cold while being barely audible. Is that still the standard now, or is there something better?
What is a good Mini ITX tower that can support a 17cm/170mm cpu cooler ? I was looking into getting a Phanteks Evolv ITX but its fucking huge for an ITX case. I mainly need space for 2 SSDs and 1 HDD. Good airflow would be nice but I dont wanna get a dumb square black box like the Thermaltake Core v1. Any advice?
The H7 is better but if you can spend a bit more get one of these
Alexander Garcia
>supporting the jew You have to be a RETARD! to not buy AMD
Zachary Allen
3000 or 3200MHz RAM isn't all the expensive, and Intel benefits from fast RAM as well, although obviously not as much as Ryzen. And compatibility hasn't been much of an issue for almost a year.
Aiden Russell
So I want to replace my current HDD with a SSD I just bought. I backed up the data I want to keep on an external HDD. How would I replace the HDD with my SSD without a SATA to USB cable ? I need a way of migrating just windows to my SSD. I would then migrate the data I want from my external HDD to the SSD. Is making a copy of windows on my external HDD enough for this to work ?
thanks
Kevin Lopez
Just clone it. Use whatever cloning software you can find
Ian Taylor
a buddy wants to sell me his rig for cheap, I guess some bills popped up and he really needs the money. 16 GB DDR3 RAM, i5-4670k at 4.2 GHz, and a GTX 1070 (he said it's overclocked but I can't remember the specifics of that off the top of my head). he wants all of this for $500. good deal?
if I do buy this off him what kind of monitor should I get? as you can imagine since there's a 1070 in it I'd be using this primarily for gayming
Christopher Martin
would I be able to only clone windows 7 and not the 900gb of data I dont need from my current HDD ?
Adrian Brooks
I'm assuming you're talking about a height of 170 mm, not a fan diameter. There's the Silverstone FT03 (not mini) case that's vertical which might be big enough for a cooler like this. LianLi has the PC-Q34 which should be big enough. Some of my personal favourites are the PC-Q37, the Jonsbo UMX1 and the EVGA Hadron meme but these all go to 130mm only. Why are you mounting such a huge heatsink in a mITX system anyway? Fractal make their Define in a qt mITX format, not quite a small though. Thermaltake V1 is the safe but boring option. Can you link your pcpp list here?
Jason Davis
Im pretty sure most cloning software lets you selectively pick
so, what does it mean when my screen starts flickering different colours and eventually crashes with audio, 5 mins into a game? it's not a temp think, max is 65. i can play older titles just fine, but something more modern that mexes out my GPU more (VRAM maybe?) makes it happen.
I have a GTX750 card 2GB video ram. Yeah it sucks but I'm not buying this for gaming. It's going to be my data science/cybersec hobbyest rig. I'm looking for high processor speeds (relatively). I'm going to virtualize windows QEMU+KVM so I can get excellent performance in windows without having to stock install that botnet. In windows I may play some games but also photoshop, illustrator... etc Basically, a very multipurpose rig is what I'm going for. And I'm trying to wade through the meme features for something that's actually useful. That ASRock motherboard has this new M.2 ssd technology. other details - >16GB 2400MHZ ram >EVGA Supernova 650G
I'm intending to get 4 hard drives and set up raid 10 for a mix of speed and data integrity. Because data mining. But anyway, that's what I'm working with. Choosing between these motherboards seems difficult because I don't want a bunch of features I'm not going to even use and oh god so many fall for the memes.
Hunter Peterson
Thanks, user. Here's my PCPP list. de.pcpartpicker.com/list/4BsBvn I have a gammax 300T (140mm height). and it does a pretty good job with cooling considering that it was only 25€. My MOBO also has red LEDs which are pretty nice, and I was planning on buying pic related but it's really big and bulky compared to my current TT core v1. Should I still go for it or are there better alternatives?
Which parts do you already own besides the cooler and the mobo? Because this list is a real mess and I'd suggest you start new. de.pcpartpicker.com/list/w8FyFt This is the best I can do right now. Why go with the 2200g when you have a dedicated GPU anyway? You don't need a massive cooler for a 65W Ryzen chip, I'd personally go with the LianLi PC-Q21 or the Silverstone FT03 Mini which look a lot cooler and still fot all your parts. If looking cool is not your point then why do mITX? Why the tiny SSD? Why the slow HDD? I know I'm really fucking up your build here but what do you want to do with your build? Protip: When going mITX always go with a (modular) SFX-PSU. This gives you lots more room inside and they come with an adapter bracket to mount it in ATX holes. Is ~800 a tightly set budget?
Julian Ross
I own all of the parts specified and I was looking into buying a fancier and more practical case. The thermaltake core v1 is a standard dust-sucking black box and I wanted to get something more interesting to show off the red lights on the 1050 ti and the rgb LEDs on the mobo. At first I started with the cooler master elite 110 with the 2200g and the stock cooler. The 1st case that I had was a mini ITX one and the CPU got pretty hot even when not OCing. Some time later I bought an aditional SSD for vidya and a slow 5400rpm HDD for storage (the original 120gb small SSD is for Windows) and I decided to also get the Thermaltake core v1 for its price and good airflow. Some time after that I got the 1050 ti and now I want to upgrade to a more decent AM4 CPU later. Sorry about the confusion and thank you kindly for your suggested build, but I'm only interested in getting a more future proof case without having to buy a big ATX tower.
Jonathan Harris
I'm a hardware pleb with around 1k £ Which 1080/GPU, mobo and CPU do I get?
