So how hard is Threadripper 2 going to assrape Intlel's HEDT? How much is 2990X going to cost? Hopefully below $2000
So how hard is Threadripper 2 going to assrape Intlel's HEDT? How much is 2990X going to cost? Hopefully below $2000
>7960x
>$1400
>1950x
>$750
Literally why even compare them?
the best will be the regrets the intel buyers will get when JEWRIPPER 2000 gets released.
AMD has a lot of wiggle room with the price as Intel can't heavily discount their 28-core even-larger-house-fire product or they'd undercut Xeon sales.
My guess is that the 1950x will remain at ~$800, while the 24 core TR2 is around $1200 and the 32 core is around $1600.
It gives the HEDT buyer a clear cost path for core counts as their use-case demands.
Intel is basically fucked in this market, where next year AMD's Rome (Epyc) will be fucking Intel in the server market.
You're silly if you think AMD won't capitalize their price structure advantage and release the 2990x at $1999.
They can always decrease their MSRP as the market demands, you'll never see a company increase MSRP (and stay alive)
Also nice spacing faggot go back to Plebbit
>Also nice spacing faggot go back to Plebbit
Ironic
The 28-core nuclear reactor isn't really a Xeon competitor, unless Intel goes full retard and actually gives it the same memory support as the full blown Xeon chip. I'm guessing $5000 for the chip itself with another grand for the mobo to run it.
'Cuz once you start entering Intel's top end HEDT price brackets you could be buying an epyc system and the rape gets even more brutal.
1950x on release was $999 so I expect the 2990X to be $1999 but it will definitely drop in price after a few months
well the biggest intel cpu the 8176 with 28 cores costs nearly 9k bucks
even if amd puts their 32 at 2k bucks intel is dead on water they cant compete neither on price or on pure perfomance
>32 cores 64 threads for less than 2000 burgers
Yeah, most likely 2000$ for 32 cores.
Anyway, anyone looking at HEDT since last year would be a fool going intel when Threadripper exists.
What matters is that they could very well ECC and threaten Xeon marketshares.
The 8180 is an even higher bin sitting squarely at $10k recommended customer price, and getting the M variant for that 1.5TB memory capacity is an extra three grand on top of that.
The xeons have a vastly different I/O to the HERDT chips from both AMD and Intel so there is little risk of it being usurped. Epyc is a different beast though and is a xeon killer.
I'd say 1500; it doesn't cost AMD much extra, just extra interposer interconnects and two extra dies (dirt cheap considering yields). I'd also reckon that the total cost of your system will have to go up also due to the fact that mobo manufacturers will have to up the minimum standard for 32c TR4 mobos to have proper VRM configuration and cooling.
I'm waiting with bated breath though, since TR2 with 4 dies will have to access memory through another die on IF, DRAM latency on the other two dies will take something of a 50%+ hit, and possibly more depending on intercore traffic. Fortunately it should be much wider and since each die should be able to request from two different dies. If it can be effectively cooled it would make a heck of a chip if this latency isn't so bad.
the 1950X was the same price as the top end HEDT cpu intel had at the time, the 7900X
the 2990X will be the same price as the top end HEDT cpu intel has at the time, the 7980XE
Lol 'professional IO'. SAS was basically SATA with checksums. It was just twice the price.
Same with ECC ram.
To be honest, I yet have to see ECC errors happen to me, and I've been doing it for 10 years.
I've had errors on memtest while overclocking, but ECC runs so low clocks, it's almost impossible for it to fail.
Maybe I'm just lucky, but it's starting to look like a cash-grab.
my point was that intel simply cant afford to chop down their xeons to a level that they will be competitive on the hedt market
what they will do and im sure of it they will put igp on basicly anything and gonna pay the CAD software houses to develop paths for their igp's making their cpu's fasters
screencap it
Intel is broke.
The only market they've go left is retarded 144Hz gaymers.
For all other use case, you're better off going AMD.
What's fucking worse is next year:
12 cores 3700x with 5 Ghz turbo on 7 nm.
48 cores Threadrippers 3.
96 cores epyc servers.
All of it running on current last gen motherboards
Don't know the follow-up, but I'd be shooting myself if I was Intel.
They even knew it was coming and did nothing.
Adobe bought it hook, line and sinker so your idea has already come to fruit.
To be honest, I wasn't expecting that much from this 'refresh' Zen+.*
Thought I was gonna bypass it and wait for Zen2.
Went from 1600X to 2700X.
Went from sometimes 4.1 Ghz on one thread for the lulz to 4.35Ghz on two and 4.05 on 8 threads.
But the most important part for me: 2933Mhz memory support. It really does help performance almost linearly.
So 10% clockspeed gain + 10% memory gain + 33% moar cores with a single processor swap and bios flash.
Can't wait for next year.
ECC is for the prevention of data corruption, right?
Consider:
>user has a mission critical server which must stay up 24/7 and never fault
ECC is the right choice regardless of the odds due to the requirements.
>user has a massive array of processing nodes
ECC is the right choice because faults and the chance of space rays flipping a bit and invalidating three weeks of processing scales with every slot used and the footprint of the total unit, respectively.
>I have yet to see happen to me
We're not talking about 5^19 operations in the course of a year. We're not talking about FP32 based imaging work which can suffer .01% misalignment and still produce acceptable output. ECC is when you need something to always be correct, ECC is for thousand node clusters running full tilt to produce atomically accurate representations.
The few little server boxes you might control might not ever need ECC, but if it's there be happy someone forked over the cost to have it.
Well, running DDR4 at 2133Mhz, knowing ECC market gets the best chips, I'd be surprised if manufacturers get even one complain a year.
wut? got any link?
>dude clones his OS install between cpus
>is shocked when shit breaks
This children is why you should never trust A FUCKING LEAF.
Shut up goy don't buy Ryzen.
now thats a new low
komplett.no
Wow, what a steal. Only 112k fisk. Even with the "consumer" version being cut-down, Intel will never give up their 60% profit margins.