Given that SSH is so great, why doesn't Windows have it? Why does Windows only have virus ridden insecure software?
SSH faciliates secure connections between two remote systems.
It uses 128 bit encryption to ensure that there is no chance of a hacker doing IP spoofing, DNS poisoning, or Man in the Middle Attacks-
While it uses a terminal by default, SSH can also use a technique called X11 forwarding to securely and safely forward graphical applications from the server to the data.
Through a technique called port forwarding, it allows a way to secure otherwise insecure protocols, like POP, and increase overall system and data security.
The OpenSSH server and client can be configured to create a tunnel similar to a virtual private network.
Using SSH through PuTTy doesn't count, because it's essentially like Wine is for Linux.
This. Remote Desktop is cool until you realize it was only meant for use within a LAN or private inter-office line. For anything else it's a last resort, like when I'm on mobile data and need to post on Jow Forums.
Matthew Lee
TeamViewer is just leagues faster than ssh for remote desktoping, it's kind of embarrassing
Juan Scott
So is Chrome Remote Desktop, but those require a middleman server which is arguably worse than direct connections.
I remember trying to install an ssh server on windows only to find out WSL installs and enables an ssh server by default with the default password listening on all interfaces, which is absolutely retarded.
Juan Barnes
TeamViewer and Chromoting uses image compression, unlike Microsoft RDP which transmits raw bitmaps.
Nolan Ward
Completely missed the point, pajeet. Most of what's mentioned there is still true today. You would know if you had some reading comprehension.
>Why does Windows only have virus ridden insecure software?
I don't understand anyone who says that Common Sense 9000 is the only solution. Any filter between your computer and the possible shit that could be coming at you is good. Who has any fucking idea what kind of malware could hit you at any time? Why not prevent it? Good websites can get taken over and spread malicious software, good software can turn into malicious software, suspicious people exist, and accidents happen.
That being said I wonder what anti-malware software to install onto this laptop and seek advice upon the matter
Ayden Williams
SSH allows for remote desktoping in a roundabout way. It's specifically designed to allow it if one desires it.
Noah Martin
It's better to leave just SSH open and use remote desktop through that than leave 3389 open to WAN and advertise to everyone that you have a Windows server to hack.
Colton Clark
That's the client, not the server.
Hunter Stewart
It's already been proven several times in this thread that Windows can act as an SSH server.
Isaac Green
>SSH huge CIA botnet, same like systemd
Jose Scott
where is the proof
Jayden Price
>ssh sucks cuz it isn't plan 9 btw I am bitter plan 9 didn't catch on pls give me attention
Luis Evans
None of that shit is true. Rob Pike and Russ Cox are not cryptographers, they have no expertise in these matters and all they say is pure FUD.
Jack Richardson
The encryption part is not true anymore. The set of safe ciphers and authentication crypto reduced a lot to maybe up to 6 combinations. Even SSL had issues with adoption that time because old hardware had no support for hardware-accelerated encryption and just could not use most of the options. This issue died out. The complexity issue outside the encryption is true. I want to looks at Plan 9's cpu(1) for some time, hoping I can force myself to do it soon. SSL and TLS is madness from complexity point of view, if SSH reduced itself to chacha20poly1305 and just 1 option for every primitive, it would be the simplest secure crypto protocol, kinda like wireguard's use of noise framework. TLS is nightmare in comparison. for laughter, djb's talk intro on PQC (starts at 1 minute) media.ccc.de/v/32c3-7210-pqchacks
Dylan Martin
>than leave 3389 open to WAN and advertise to everyone that you have a Windows server to hack. I seriously hope none of you guys do this.
Parker Sanchez
was there even some crypto code in Plan 9? I know there is something ported to 9front but dunno original
Carter Edwards
>if SSH reduced itself to chacha20poly1305 and just 1 option for every primitive, it would be the simplest secure crypto protocol, kinda like wireguard's use of noise framework
This. Wireguard's intentional lack of cipher suites is a great idea. Just enforcing chacha20poly1305 or AES-128-GCM is more than enough for decades to come
Jose Davis
>for decades to come >that linked talk I really wonder when will post-quantum crypto enters the scene
Noah Baker
most probably not in our lifetime
Asher White
>Obsolete legacy concept? >In use by millions upon millions of devices today.
Pick one.
That's like saying the concept of routing IP packets is obsolete because it was developed many years ago.
Jonathan Garcia
tty has no purpose and is completely inelegant design though despite ipv6 being superior to ipv4, at least ipv4 is nowhere that terrible, old doesn't necessarily mean obsolete
Oliver Kelly
doubt it, I'm confident there will be quantum-resistant key exchange in common use in those next 10 years
It does OP, install WSL, type bash, there you go instant ability to use SSH. You can even do it from powershell.
David Rogers
It... does. Since the last update. an ssh client is installed by default, a server can be installed as an optional feature (no idea what that actually connects you with, though).
Jacob Collins
>Waah! SSH is too big, too complex for me to understand! Cryptography is totally trivial and shouldn't be that hard to implement right! Let's have a mandatory fallback algorithm that will be unusably unsafe in 6 years baked into the protocol so the entire system becomes unusable! Jesus Christ, how can they actually suggest that?
Cameron Bailey
seemed halfway intelligent so rip my nukka
Jason Cruz
no crypto is too complex and harmful. if you want your shit hidden just use rot13, it's simple and easy to audit for bugs.
Evan Perez
He was right about almost everything.
Owen Fisher
>openbsd
Isaiah Ross
It has something better, plan 9's cpu(1), and it's not like wine because it's portable and the same anywhere.
