Last Thread >News Razer is stepping up its game: Razer has announced a new optical switch in their huntsman keyboards called opto-mechanical. Built by A4tech for Razer, it features a clicking mechanism for tactile and auditory feedback while using an optical sensor for lighting fast response times. Razer expects 1.5-2ms of input lag thanks the lack of debounce times compared to the 8-10ms if a standard mechanical switch. Some specifications Actuation Force: 45g Actuation Point: 1.5mm Total Travel Distance: 3.5mm Durability: 100 million clicks Compatible with Cherry MX keycaps If these switches look very similar to Bloody's Light strike switches, it's because A4tech is the OEM for both of them, similarly to how Kailh and Greetech are the OEM for Razer's green, yellow and orange switches.
While on the subject of Razer switches. Razer is now allowing third parties to use their switches and software. The new Ducky Shine 7 for example will feature Razer switches in addition to cherry MX switches. Additionally Razer is also allowing third party keyboard manufactures to use chroma software and sync up with the entire chroma ecosystem. MSI, NZXT, AMD, Thermaltake, Lian Li, Vertagear, Gigabyte and Ducky have all been given access to the chroma API
>Preferred switch type This is where I need he most help. I like Topres (45g) a lot. This keyboard will be for work and I don't want to spend as much, so Topres are out of the picture. Cherry Blues are nice, but the clicky might be too loud. Browns feel like a linear key with sand in them. Clears are a bit too stiff for my tastes. Any suggestions?
>Layout ANSI
>Form factor 65% or 75%. I want arrow keys, but something a little smaller than a normal TKL would be nice.
>Backlight No.
>Previous/current keyboards FC660C, which I like very much
Adrian Martin
what about topre clones? or do you want something more traditional?
I've got this derelict looking old-ass hall keyboard along with the equally sleazy looking early 80's terminal it belongs to. (I didn't disassemble it, received this way.) Shoud I try to restore it's original state or should I make a pc keyboard from it?
not really a mechanical keyboard but what do you think about the sculpt? I have pretty big issues with my forearm/elbow so i figure if i combine this with a vertical mouse id be able to work somewhat painlessly
Just got my Hako Royal Trues today and I'll give you guys a bit of a review. They are an interesting switch. Extremely tactile, I would say the tactility is similar to that of a heavier dome. The hako spring effectively keeps me from bottoming out after the bump so in terms of weighting it's exactly what I've been wanting. On the return these things really pop back up, so I would say that the reset is even more tactile than the downstroke.
Conclusion: I like them better than BOX Navies.
Thomas Lee
Do you happen to have any royals (with navy springs) to compare them to?
Lucas Nelson
Unfortunately no. I do have navies that i was going to try and spring swap with the hako royals but i can't get them open.
Nolan Miller
What was so hard about just putting your mouse on the left hand side? now just to type 10, you have to either a. move your hand from one side of the keyboard to the other b. use two hands FOR NUMBERS
Mason Hill
Just try using tweezers to pry open one side, then pry the other side while keeping the other one still open.
Jayden Anderson
>putting a right handed mouse on the left side
Easton Ross
how the FUCK do I hotswap switches?? I pulled all these shitty outemu blues out of my keyboard and I have a bunch of gateron yellows to put in, but the yellows keep bending and the leaf is getting pushed up inside. Am I fucking stupid??
Liam Garcia
>Am I fucking stupid?? yes, I hope you're not mounting the switches upside down now tell me what keyboard?
Anthony Campbell
mechanical eagle z77. they are not upside down either, the pins are in the holes right up until I try to push it in
Angel Collins
you have to crimp the thin pin with a pair of pliers
Xavier Flores
oh holy shit I just noticed the pins are a tiny amount wider. How should I crimp them? Trying to do it with the pliers just results in twisting it
Christopher Smith
Any 100% ortholinears out there?
Leo Russell
yes
Joseph Brooks
There's the BFO-9000 from keeb.io if you're okay with a split board.
you could file it down, but I would be very careful and make sure that dust doesn't get inside the switch. You can also open up the switch and use the outemu leafs
Angel Smith
I'm not, I just want an ansi-like layout with ortholinear non staggered letter rows
Do any Cherry clones have a version of the Cherry Brown that isn't trash?
Matthew Gonzalez
pretty much everyone makes that now
Daniel Sanders
Let me clarify: Cherry Browns are barely tactile. Does anybody make a switch with a comparable actuation force where the tactility is more noticeable? Basically what I'd like is a Blue except quiet(er).
Connor Jones
But blues don't even have any fucking tactility, much less than standard browns
Best browns are generally gaterons, from what I hear.
Evan Wood
Kailh box brown. Box royal if you want it to be even more tactile.
Jack Morgan
Kthx
Nathan Perry
gateron browns are pretty nice
Andrew Cook
>blues don't even have any fucking tactility wrong
they're great, there is no uneven surface actually. the copper pins just have like 1/16 of an inch taken off to match outemu slots in my pcb
Nolan James
that's actually the new fad. some keyboards now only come with RGB under glow instead of shinning the RGB through the keycaps
Jeremiah Smith
>gaming
Julian Carter
Okay, so I swapped a navy spring into a hako royal and vice versa.
Hako Royal/Navy Spring: Guaranteed bottom out but doesn't really lose that much tactility, except on the upstroke. Definitely worse than stock. Box Navy/True Spring: Not noticeably that much different from standard box navies, except for a more cushioned landing after the click. Definitely would help keep you from bottoming out on box navies but wouldn't be worth the time it would take to spring swap all your switches.
Hudson Ward
what keycaps and in what profile should I get for my Pok3r? It has nature white switches.
Elijah Taylor
yeah i think ive decided pn gateron clears for my next board. should i buy a diy kit or is there really no point? im not really a fan of keys being sunk into a shroud anymore so i want something where everything is raised (way easier to clean as well)
Julian Watson
Tada68 with metal case
Levi Nguyen
The custom DSA sets from PMK are a pretty good option in my opinion.
Sebastian Robinson
looks ok but that border of raised plastic around the board is what im trying to avoid. something more akin to a claymore in terms of the key raise
oh right, but it doesnt look like clears are available
Adrian Ross
That's why I said metal case you retard Gateron clears are available, you're just a brainlet
You've disappointed me user. I had high hopes for you
Carter Murphy
>That's why I said metal case you retard its still raised around the edge. iu disappoint myself with my existence. at every level of application i screw up by prioritizing speed above all else.
Sebastian Wright
Interdasting. Would be nice if hako springs were sold separately.
Henry Morales
This has probably been asked to death, but is the Pok3r any good as a first time 60% mechanical keyboard?
If youre worried you wont like a 60%, pick up an ANNE PRO
Robert Jenkins
I don't think the Anne Pro looks even remotely as good as this.
Matthew Richardson
I'm too lazy to order a switch sampler. I was wondering what switch is best for someone who hates blues. I'm actually willing to buy a new keyboard even though my current Cherry MX Blue keyboard is in perfect condition, purely because I hate the switches. I feel they take too long, and they don't have a nice spongey feel to them, the tactile bump is actually a negative for me personally. And I hate the fucking clicky noise.
The build quality of the POK3R is miles better buts the Anne Pro is very cheap. Also this is an anne pro
Kayden Hughes
Ive had mine for a year and as far as useless consumerist trash you dont need its fucking excellent. get mx clears and youll be glad. Only reason Im buying an hhkb is for the topre / layout. pok3r is a fantastic board.
Nolan Robinson
Can somebody explain to me the point of 60% keyboards? Why do people buy keyboards without arrows?
Nathan Myers
It's to put the mouse closer to the home row, so you don't have to reach over as much for the mouse. Ergonomics in other words. Also you can put the arrows either on the right mods, just have dedicated arrows with a 65% board, or have it on another layer on wasd or whatever.
