If you want help >State the budget for your build >List your uses- e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
Overclocking >DON'T BUY AN 8000K CPU OR Z300 BOARD IF YOU AREN'T OVERCLOCKING >Delid 8000K >Use Precision Boost Overdrive & BCLK increase for Ryzen 2000X >Use a real stress test & trustworthy temp software- e.g. IntelBurnTest & Core Temp (DO NOT USE SPECCY)
CPUs >2200G- Bare minimum gaming (dGPU optional) >2400G- Consider if close to 2200G price >2600/X- Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >2700/X- Best mixed usage >8700K- Best for gaming, but most expensive platform & delid necessary >Threadripper/used Xeon- VM work/streaming/video editing
Motherboards >Don't buy A320 (All Ryzen are unlocked) >Only Z300 Intel boards can utilize memory over 2666MHz
RAM >8GB- Enough for most gaming use >16GB- Standard for heavy use >32GB- Too much for most users >2933MHz is ideal; 3200 CL14 is B-die
Storage >StoreMI can make HDDs better >Consider getting a larger SSD instead of SSD+HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 might be SATA or PCIe >PCIe/NVMe for intensive use only
Video cards >SLI & CrossFire are unadvisable 1080p >1050 Ti, 1060 3/6GB, or 570/580 >1070 or Vega 56 for 100+ fps 1440p >1070/Ti or Vega 56/64 >1080 Ti for 100+ fps 2160p >1080 Ti
Power supplies >Fully modular is very convenient >80+ Platinum is overpriced
Monitors >Explain purpose- e.g. photo editing, gaming >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >G-SYNC only with high budget/GTX card >Consider FreeSync with RX cards/APUs >Low refresh rates benefit less from better CPUs
Each cable has a meaning, red is 5v and the connector you posted later doesn't have any. Unless you find another source of 5v or transform 12v to 5v somehow I don't think you can power a HDD.
Eli Ortiz
Why would you want to? Psus come with like 6 molex connectors just use one of those
Michael Hernandez
Do they? Didn't take a good look but I think all I had left was the square ones.
Jonathan Torres
How old is this PSU and what's the rest of the build? Just curious
Thomas Diaz
Take a picture of your power supply and the connectors
Logan Taylor
recommended CPU for 3440x1440 100hz, mainly for games + photo editing.
Josiah Torres
ausfag here, 1060 3GB was $300 in December and now its $370??? I thought mining with graphics cards wasn't viable any more? What gives?
Pick a category based on budget and get the one which is cheapest alongside the motherboard and ram you want.
Bentley Carter
I'll just take a good look at it. No idea what the fuck's in it.
Grayson Morris
>x370 pro >1060 >ryzen 5 2600x I think I should go with 16GB ram but what about the motherboard? It's already bought and I have regrets if it is decent enough for the other parts
Anthony Rodriguez
Are you retarded? One google search is all it took, EVGA under $300 dollarydoos.
now that vega cards are actually not stupidly overpriced should i get one? using r9 390 with nixeus 24in freesync 1080p rx vega 56 is about 500 rx vega 64 is about 600
Colton Miller
that's the 3GB aka the c u c k version, with less memory bandwidth. might as well call it the GTX 1050 Ti Ti.
Parker Clark
Couldn't see shit without undoing my cable management. Here's my PSU. What cable do I need to power the HDD?
I can see 4 molex connectors there but to power the hdd you need sata power (assuming it's a modern hdd) which is the cable which has a connector which looks flat. In the picture it's directly under the picture of the power supply on the left
David Morgan
>still pretending a 3fps average difference at 1440p is a game changer
As has been mentioned before, it's significantly cheaper in places and is just as good of an option as a 2600 at 1440p. Even the the guy who made the benchmarks says the same thing. If you don't agree with what he says then stop posting his benchmarks.
Elijah Long
>it's significantly cheaper I wouldn't go that far but it depends, if the prices are the same the 2600 is clearly better
>If you don't agree with what he says then stop posting his benchmarks. It's not the first time I've read this, I don't have to agree with everything he says to appreciate a decent benchmark
Isaac Allen
Coffee lakes sells like shit because no one is dumb enough to buy it, fuck off and give up shilling it faggot.
Prices will never be the same as it requires premium RAM and knowledge of how to tweak timings to achieve those results. And an aftermarket cooler. In fact he addresses this in his conclusion and says unless you're willing to fork out an extra $100-150 on b-die ram and cooler then it's not the better choice for the price. Not my words, Steve's from hardware unboxed. The point is the 8400 is just as good of an option as the 2600 so stop pretending it's not. If you want to go further I can quote Steve when he says the 8400 is just straight up better for gaming however I don't completely agree with that.
Jason Davis
>3 watts more Thats like 10 cents in a year. That's so crucial, I can't think why people buy intel.
>knowledge of how to tweak timings to achieve those results Come on, it's just enabling XMP and loading up a profile >extra $100-150 No, more like $30 and $15 for the Spire or $40-$50 for a True Spirit 140 or a NH-U12S SE-AM4 >The point is the 8400 is just as good of an option as the 2600 so stop pretending it's not. I never said that, these arguments start because you can't read >If you want to go further I can quote Steve I'm aware of the video, quote him if you will but it won't change the fact that 2600 is the better choice
>a low clocked 6 core with no threads consuming the same as a 4.35ghz 8 core with hyperthreading while performing significantly worse is a-ok Its almost like intel shills are fucking delusional cucks
How can you call other people shills when you post the same nonsense every single thread? Who the fuck uses a screenshot as a definitive statistic of a constantly changing metric which is frames per second? You're the real shill here and it baffles me how you can't realise this
I have $250 to spend on a poverty machine. Do I build a Ryzen 3 2200g (i've never built before) or $250 refurb (Dell Optiplex 9020, 4th gen i5)?
Matthew Hill
>realises hes wrong >doesnt have a comeback >posts a wojak Epic
Ryan Allen
>How can you call other people shills when you post the same nonsense every single thread? Who the fuck uses a screenshot as a definitive statistic of a constantly changing metric which is frames per second? You're the real shill here and it baffles me how you can't realise this >mfw benchmarks don't count anymore
>GPU 73% The power of Intel people, threadly reminder that the 8700k is the only one worth getting and that's knowing that the socket will die shortly after
Still too scared to post the source video I see. It's too easy to beat you shills because you already know you'll get exposed if you did as everyone will see they perform the same
Parker Williams
That wasn't my aim but ok I found this from a few weeks ago
>when you are so asshurt about intel getting fucked by amd that you post SEETHING asshurt shilling on a imageboard full of spergs and autismos Fucking hell no one here wants intel you actual shill
>73% gpu hahaha how can intelfags compete. It doesnt matter that we get 10 less fps with max oc and top performance mobo ram and cooler as long as we use more gpu!!! As for your other misleading screenshot you do realise 2600x has slower frametimes and throtthles more with 30% less cpu load right in that game right? But who cares
Luis Reyes
>le AMD echo chamber
Holy shit this isn't about your personal opinion you melt. This is an unbiased thread for potential pc builders. You already got so completely asshurt because that guy wanted an 8400 + 1070 ti because it was cheaper. People aside from yourself in your little deluded world do take into account all hardware and cost and that's evident in previous posts. Stop trying to turn this into some AMD central retard. Not even r/AMD is this bad. In fact they generally give good advice as opposed to you shills here.
>JUST goyworks 3 >Battlefield 1 (engine is 6 years old now) >assassins KANGZ: Shit optimization >formula 1(11 year old engine) >Farshit 5 (french faggot console port) >Final Animatedmovie 15 (japshit console port) >How to assassinate a franchise (6 year old engine) >Kingdom come: deliverance (8 year old engine and runs better on AMD lol) >Counter shit: Cyka BLATTT (14 year old engine) >Buy DLC: the RPG (17 year old engine) >Only game in this entire list on a somewhat new engine (Big fucking suprise when AMD runs better) >Project unoptimized console port >A counter strike ripoff >Another unoptimized reddit console port So basically you proved me right and whenever my conditions were met AMD won.
>he thinks cpu working at its full potential with no drawbacks is a bad thing
Nolan Morgan
I know this is prob not the right thread, but mouse recommendations?
Hunter Reyes
>le Intel echo chamber Holy shit this isn't about your personal opinion you melt. This is an unbiased thread for potential pc builders. You already got so completely asshurt because that guy wanted an 2600 + 580 because it was cheaper. People aside from yourself in your little deluded world do take into account all hardware and cost and that's evident in previous posts. Stop trying to turn this into some Intel central retard. Not even r/Intel is this bad. In fact they generally give good advice as opposed to you shills here.
Colton Foster
Why would I want a 1070 ti if I already have a 1070? I don't even plan on upgrading my processor for another couple of years yet and I'm waiting for Zen 2. Also I don't even live in the USA.
Nathan Reyes
thank you for the advice. i'll try my best.
Isaac Parker
>no drawbacks >ignoring the frames dropping when the CPU can't handle it anymore
>dipshit cant get over the fact that intel isnt and never was Jow Forums approved You are like a dumb clueless macfag bitching about everyone recommending thinkpads on this board then complaining about it while endlessly shilling macbooks.
also >admitting to going to reddit maybe you should go back
I can’t even figure out what just goyworks 3 is supposed to be
Michael Gonzalez
>I don't see anyone posting anti AMD wojaks and/or saying the 2600 is pointless itt. Again acting stupid in order to make a point, If only someone knew what this was called
Yet if you were to go to SQT where people chime in with objective answers they would say get a mac if the price was right and dependant on usage scenario. The same thing is what people are trying to do In these pcbg threads which are objective and not vendor biased yet it's people like you calling everyone else shills for being neutral and recommending other companies rather than praising AMD and only AMD like the second coming of Jesus.
And fyi I've never been or browsed reddit before I just know they banned adoredtv and call him out for his nonsense and that's good advice to me.
Charles Bennett
Another fake screenshot Also this game is shit theres a bomb every second it causes every cpu to drop frames. Watch your video yourself
What? This thread is supposed to be an objective and unbiased thread not some shitposting one. If you're this clinically retarded to not be able to differentiate between the two then you should really just end it right now as you're wasting valuable oxygen.
Andrew Smith
Better RPCS3, Cemu, and Citra performance from what I'v seen.
I'd delid either when I got it.
Chase Cook
What pasta?
Jackson Ross
>that 30 yo boomer who downloads a house on fire just so he can say intel is shit
Brody Myers
Tell me how I'm a shill for calling both the 2600 and 8400 good again? Is it because I'm not solely praising the 2600?
>What? This thread is supposed to be an objective and unbiased thread not some shitposting one The unbiased fact is that intel is inefficient, slow, hot, riddled with hardware bugs and exploits, with 0 support post launch from intel. Meanwhile AMDs worst problem is that you have to spend 30-40$ more on ram and people are too stupid to update a bios.
Easton Wright
>that underage redditor that shills intel 24/7
Joseph Thomas
That's not what the conclusion to the benchmarks that you and your buddies have been posting in this thread says. He's a liar though amirite?
