Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses - e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g. photo editing, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs >R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming (dGPU optional) >R5 2400G - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7-8700K - Best for 1080p gaming, but most expensive when factoring in delid, high-end cooler, etc. >R7 2700/X - Best high-end gaming/mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
Motherboards >Only Z300 series boards can utilize fast memory with Intel
RAM >8GB - Enough for most gaming use >16GB - Standard for heavy use >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this much >Current CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal
Graphics cards >GPU prices have gone down 1080p >RX 580 or 1060 6GB are standard 1080p 60fps+ options >1050Ti or RX560 for lower settings 1080p, or older games >GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 if seeking higher fps & you have a CPU + monitor to match 1440p >Vega 56 or Vega 64 /w Freesync; 1070Ti if you already have Gsync >GTX 1080Ti if seeking higher fps & you have a CPU + monitor to match 2160p(4K) >Titan V
Storage >Consider StoreMi >Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard
Monitors >Always consider FreeSync with AMD cards >Lock to 72fps on 144hz non-Gsync monitors with Nvidia cards to prevent tearing on more demanding games >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
How capable is the Ryzen 2600x with VR? Fallout 4 VR looks like an interesting experience and I'd hope to be able to run it and similar at decent settings.
or better & more affordable hardware. What is the lowest price I could get away with building a PC with these kinds of parts that wouldn't die in an instant?
It's fine. VR is more graphics heavy than CPU heavy. GPU-wise, you need a 6GB 1060, or RX 580, or better.
Andrew Wilson
is the GPU still alright? the EVGA one was about 30 dollars more with the same specs, would it last longer?
Wyatt Torres
Chopin is really nice.
Fine. Anything that'll get you a consistent 90fps minimum is good. I'd put fast RAM with it just to be safe.
I'd get the EVGA one or better. Or an RX580 for that matter. Gigabyte fans are so loud even when you have 3 of them, let alone 1. You can even see in the picture that the heatsink doesn't fill the whole inside of the shroud and there isn't much metal or fin density there.
But it's ultimately up to you if a few bucks more is worth the better stock performance and quiet.
Leo Cooper
Thank you, that's exactly what I'm looking for is the lowest price good quality parts that I can get. Hey you're also the same guy who answered my other question, I was the guy looking for an Nvidia GPU so it could stream on my tablet
Levi Reed
Apparently there was an ebay sell yesterday but no one mentioned it. Had Vega 64 strix for $510, 2600X for $162, 1080Ti for $620.
Refurbforless is still selling the 2600X for $190, at least.
Like I said, there is Steam in-home streaming, Parsec, and Rainway.io for doing that. You don't need an Nvidia GPU for a basic feature like that.
Cooper Ramirez
it's built in with the shield I got, but I do know about steam streaming. The use of the nvidia service was the ability to play @ home vidya while mobile, and I can use a steam controller with the tablet
is parsec and/or Rainway as good as either the steam service or nvidia's streaming service?
Tyler Roberts
is there any real value to installing games on the ssd or is it a waste of money for little benefit?
SSD is nice to put your OS on it and the game you play the most, like a MMORPG for example. It'll boost loading times and performance a little. But I wouldn't install every game on it.
Nathaniel Harris
Yes rainway.io works the same as Nvidia GameStream or whatever it's called. Low latency GPU encoding.
So... you bought an Nvidia Shield just to stream from your PC, instead of just using your android phone with a controller dock? Really memed yourself hard with proprietary shit. Maybe you should buy a Mac.
Writes wear out SSDs, not reads. I'd never install programs to HDDs. Shit's shit.
> Should I get the 1080 now while I can get it for 530 euro? Idk. pcpp doesn't even list prices for most of your stuff in Netherlands. Generally Vega 56 + Freesync is a lot cheaper for near identical performance. But if that's not the case, sure I imagine that's fairly cheap with your high VAT.
James White
>Is this a decent build? yes >Should I get the 1080 now while I can get it for 530 euro? yes I had to pay 100 yurops more
Luis Nguyen
have a ryzen 1600x OC to 4ghz stable but turned off settings in Bios so that it constantly stays at that clock, does that effect performance? or throttles in any way?
Cooper Clark
since when is win10 so cheap? and pro at that?
Zachary Carter
What is up with these pc cases? They have front fans... which are covered.... I see them everywhere and it upsets me.
Yeah, sounds like you should get the 1080 there. I guess AMD cards will always be overpriced there since you get paid for heating your house.
Is the shield really so locked down that you can't use Parsec or Rainway.io with it? Did you try? I'm not looking up for you.
Generally they are scraped keys from wreckers and legitimate. But sometimes they sell them multiple times which can get your license revoked.
William Kelly
Is the airflow good enough?
Leo Ward
On my fractal r6 yes.
Camden Morgan
Not him but my current case is like that and the front airflow is pretty bad though it depends on the case, if you can afford it I'd recommend the Enthoo Pro M or the Meshify C
Isaiah Campbell
How do you know what PSU to buy? Am I supposed to figure out the watts my pc is going to use?
Plz respond
Leo Price
>Am I supposed to figure out the watts my pc is going to use?
PC Partpicker has a wattage calculator that calculates the amount of watts your proposed system would use. Obviously, you want to pick a PSU with more wattage than that. Don't touch any PSU that isn't at least 80+ Bronze rated, and try to stick to known names (Corsair, EVGA, Seasonic, Antec, etc)
Yes. Find out how many watts your PC will use at peak and get something 25-50% higehr than that.
pls don't get a vega64 for 1080p. You can just get Navi next year for the same performance at greatly reduced cost and power consumption. And get 750w max. lmao holy shit your PSU costs half as much as the Vega64.
Brayden Barnes
>lmao holy shit your PSU costs half as much as the Vega64. find me a cheaper fully modular that doesn't daisy chain PCIE cables
Tyler Barnes
>tfw finally bought a SSD got a 500gb 860 evo for $94 with the code yesterday. not as good as the 1tb 860 evo that walmart had for $150 due to a price mistake, but the cunts cancelled my order for that.
Jacob Jenkins
What gaming mid end prebuilt or partpickerlist can i get with 800-900, im retadrd, would i be better to get a prebuilt because they look alot cheaper
Mason Fisher
>would i be better to get a prebuilt because they look alot cheaper no. They often skimp on important but not noticeable things like the power supply. I'll make you a PC Partpicker list, but I have a few questions first. What monitor are you using? - Do you not have one and need one? - What is the resolution of it? - what's the refresh rate? - Does it have Freesync or G-sync?
How long do you want the PC to last? What games do you want to play? Do you have any size constraints or a size preference?
John Wright
Do you have a monitor, keyboard and mouse?
John Hill
$730 for i5-8400 + RX580 8gb. Google on amazon and it should come up.
>would i be better to get a prebuilt because they look alot cheaper For cheapshit 8400 builds, they're actually okay. It can be hard to build one yourself quite that cheap, but they're cheap for various reasons. The difference is with building yourself is that you can spend slightly more to get much higher quality components which'll last longer and be much more surely compatible with future upgrades.
That prebuilt also doesn't have an SSD, iirc. And in building a 2600/X system yourself, you'd be ready for a "3700X" upgrade on 7nm next year. That 8400 prebuilt almost surely can't properly support upgrading to an 8700k.
The 650-750w version of that PSU requires you to "daisy chain PCIE cables"?
Robert Phillips
is that show actually good and get a torrent link for it
Evan Adams
I need a mointor pref 144 refresh. i was hoping to make this last 4-5 years and no size constraints
no monitor, have a keyboard and have a mouse, also have a case out of circumstances
Ryder Nelson
Just guestimating based on what you said, this would be my recommendation for a mid-range build at the moment. pcpartpicker.com/list/tLGvRJ
No, it's not. Watch Full Metal Panic or Patlabor instead.
>pcpartpicker.com/list/tLGvRJ Solid, but I'd try and fit in a bigger SSD. 480GB Team Group one for $70-$80 ish. Cheaper mATX case, mATX board, maybe just straight drop the HDD.
There's also the $20 Steam card with that GPU that knocks $20 off. So you do have $100 to work with to improve it anyway.
Well monitor is going to be $200 so really you're asking for a $600-$700 build? Not going to be possible to hit those framerates you want.
Jack Morgan
i see now, ill just save more towards the 800 with 200 monitor that linked. thanks fren, wont be able to buy now i guess though, would these prices drop anytime soon and what exactly could happen to make them drop
Jose Martinez
alright here is a less ridiculous PSU au.pcpartpicker.com/list/8xpdq4 but I'm truly stumped on picking a GPU in the long term will the RX 580 really hold up compared to the vega 56/64?
Camden Gutierrez
Thoughts on used CPUs? I'm thinking of upgrading from an i5 4570 to an i7 4790k. I'd like to spend $250 on the upgrade, don't wanna drop a ton on a new motherboard and DDR4 RAM.
can this rig be upgraded to the zen2 when it lands and can i get some ram/cooling/case recommendations? is the mobo i picked good option for OC
the only thing that worries me so far is stepping away from evga customer service, they've always replaced my stuff if it dies with no bullshit, at least the gpu is till safe
wish the intel chips weren't fermi hot and socket-ending era, if things looked better I would pick intel just so i could have more evga parts
>what exactly could happen to make them drop The Ram and graphics card may drop in price next month, but we aren't sure IF they will so don't count on it. Ram may go down as the Chinese government just finished an investigation into Samsung, Hynix and Micron for ram price fixing (artificially restricting supply to keep prices high) and fined the companies 3 billion dollars over it. The Graphics card may go down because reasons. New generation graphics cards are set to release within the next 2 months from Nvidia and likely AMD. Nvidia is very likely but AMD is unconfirmed. All we know there is AMD promised to release a new GPU architecture every year for the next few years. Prices on older generation cards like the RX series will likely come down to remove old stock. preliminary estimates have it as a 20% drop in price. This is all speculation though and nothing is guaranteed, so keep that in mind.
Austin Reed
>will the RX 580 really hold up compared to the vega 56/64? No...? But you can replace it with Navi next year.
I'd only get Vega *now* if you're getting a 1440p monitor. But even then, the RX580 does 1440p pretty damn well. I run 2560x1600-2880x1800 on my RX580. Still on a 1920x1200 monitor. Will hopefully finally jump to 4k next year and get a better GPU then. Hopefully they make a bigger die Navi than the 36-44 that's likely planned to launch before that would happen.
>pcpartpicker.com/list/3xpdq4 >can this rig be upgraded to the zen2 when it lands We don't know for certain. They updated those boards for Ryzen 2000 series, but as far as anyone knows there is nothing stopping ASUS from no longer updating the BIOS on that for the latest microcode and Zen2 support.
I would guess yes, but I can't guarantee it.
>ram/cooling/case recommendations? Just use stock cooler at least initially. Get 3200 CL14 RAM, whatever is cheapest.
Replace SSD with 500GB MX500. Or something faster in 250gb like a 970 Evo if you're using StoreMi.
4790k is a good upgrade but.. hopefully it winds up costing you less than $250. That's a lot to spend for an old 4c/8t. You can get a 2600X and motherboard for that much money, just not the RAM.
Matthew Green
>4790k is a good upgrade but.. hopefully it winds up costing you less than $250. That's a lot to spend for an old 4c/8t. You can get a 2600X and motherboard for that much money, just not the RAM. Well, the i5 4570 I can sell back on eBay for $80. With that in mind, do you think it's worth the $170 for the upgrade? I'm getting 100% CPU usage in some games, games that make use of hyperthreading. Not to mention the CPU has way better core performance and overclocking ability anyway.
Eli Cruz
Does your board already support unlocked CPUs so you can overclock it to at least 4ghz? If so yeah, that's a good upgrade to go with and should last you a few more years.
Cameron Ward
Yeah, it's a Z87. That's mostly what I'm looking for, a cheap upgrade to last a few more years, maybe one more GPU upgrade in that time.
Brandon Edwards
Also, looking for aftermarket cooler suggestions forit. Just using stock for my 4570.
Mkay. Make sure it supports a 4790k. Didn't they need a BIOS update or Z97 board? H7 or something like that.
Anthony Ramirez
Thanks, I think it's up to date but I'll double check.
Jace Brooks
ok Jow Forums, i've been building my computer and i've hit a snag. when i power everything up to test, the components seem to run fine but when i hook a screen up nothing shows. what do. pic is the rats nest, with what i think are all the important parts shown.
You plugged your monitor into your motherboard, not your GPU.
Parker Carter
Plug the monitor into the graphics card, not the motherboard
Owen Murphy
Also, move the first ram stick to the red slot, so both ram sticks are in the red slots
Juan Moore
do what these said after it works, install windows and turn off your machine and do some cable management.
Lucas Ward
Well i guess even on Jow Forums i have a special kind of autism
Ryan Bennett
yeah i was gonna clean up the insides after i got his worked out
Landon Green
Any tips on ways to organize the orgy i got?
Parker Roberts
so i got this pc off work for free and have given it to my lil brother. he plays games like roblox and mc and wants to play other games on it (indie not that demanding games) but they run like shit because shitty integrated graphics. so i was wondering whats the best and cheapest graphics card for it(under a 100 dola lars) also spore (2008 game) ran like ass on lowest settings with a fresh windows 10 install. specs intel i3 8gb ram and cant tell you guys more cus not at his house r now. ill be adding an ssd later. all i need now is a gpu which should be able to give me 60+ fps on those games and maybe a psu if the graphcis catd requirea itm
Fuck I didn't notice the RAM. Read your god damned motherboard manual.
what are cables?
Just be patient and think it through.
So.. it's like an i3 2320 or something like that? There's not much you can get that it won't bottleneck severely. Used 750ti for ~$70 maybe? Or an R7 265. Does the PSU even have a 6 or 8 pin? Make sure it does before you get a graphics card with a 6 or 8 pin.
it's not supposed to totally fuck up airflow but it kind of fucks up airflow.
moderate fuckuppery on the airflow front
Lucas Gutierrez
what about a graphics card that only draws power from the pci lanes? also could i upgrade the cpu? what are the options? and would a 750 equivalent be able to run those game 60+fps? compared to a 1030 how much is the frame difference
Bentley Phillips
lol dude i used to rock that system. dell 660 inspiron. fuckin bitchin.
slapped in some 650w psu from microcenter, a solid... something. i don't remember. early 2015. and a small 750ti.
i'd say get a mini 1050ti or something.
also bro hit me up on phantom forces. once i rebuild tomorrow i'll kick your ass to oblivion.
Lucas Ortiz
a 750ti will work fine for you then. get oneof the evga single fans or that weird low profile one.
Thomas Jackson
check out this sexy motherfucker. you'll rock roblox and mc at 60fps easy desu. 1080p too.
i don't think an i3 will bottleneck a 1050ti. especially not in roblox or minecraft.
prove me wrong though.
Parker Taylor
anons, is ryzen 3 2200g + 8gb 3000 ram enough to install gnu/linux as my main os and have a windows VM to play games?
Jace Allen
agree thanks for the thought but i said under 100. did you replace the motherboard? will buying a cheap corsair/evga psu work with the motherboard? im not sure if it has propietary bullshit or not
lol no way i just linked the same thing ya crazy cunt
it DOES need a power cable, but comes with a molex adapter. i'd imagine his psu doesn't have molex on it because its a prebuild dell.
but getting that card for 55 and a psu for 40 will be right at 100.
Chase White
Generally yes. Give the VM 6GB of it. But you know if you passthrough the iGPU(does that even work?) you are going to lose video to output linux, right?
It looks like an old ass dell and not one that'd have Skylake, to me. And even that Skylake i3 is often bottlenecking it. Putting a $170 gpu in a $50 PC is pretty retarded.
seems to be what i need and it has high rating and a good review. the price is perfect and it doesnt seem to need a power cable oh shit what a coincidence
Adrian Bennett
read the link better. it has different cards on that page, one of them being a 750ti.
fuck ur retarded. I read it fine. You're the tech illiterate shitter who can't read it at all.
That one might be real. Most, but not all, of the specs check out. They can lie about those, though. Could always refund it if it's fake. Problem is, doesn't know enough about computers to figure out how to check if it's fake or not once he gets it. He can't even figure out what CPU you has, and you think he's going to be able to figure out what a card with a fake BIOS really is?
Nolan Wood
Requirements: VM, some gaming, 3D rendering while also portable (can throw it into a large backpack). Using 2* 2K screens
get one of them high end thinkpads with compute graphics
the other guy linked a video saying its pretty good. idk what you want from me.
Jace Myers
let's go over again how he plays roblox and minecraft, these aren't extremely demanding games. actually minecraft is.
Dylan Mitchell
sorry but im not a sped. the pc is at my lil bro house and i cant go r now and check one cus lazy, 2 cus too far and 3 because its late and theyr most likely sleeping. please dont offend me like that or ill cal rape
What motherboard should I get? >Ryzen 5 2600X >1060 6GB Strix OC >ddr4 16GB 3200mhz >WB red SATA 5,4Rqm 1TB
Mason Price
>the other guy linked a video saying its pretty good. idk what you want from me. I fucking said that aliexpress one MIGHT be okay. But the Amazon one definitely is not. It's clearly fake.
That video doesn't confirm anything, though. They can change the units they send at any point. This actually happens on Amazon a lot where legit products are shipped at first and then replaced with cheap Chinese knockoffs. Would probably be safer that he just get a used 750Ti that goes off PCIe power only.
The one you like the most.
Carson Gomez
I'll be using a dedicated 1050ti, not the iGPU. thanks, user
William Cruz
yeah i told him already to get a used 750ti for like 50 bucks on ebay if he can. desu the chinese knockoff won't be too much of an issue either, but it looks like a custom board with similar specs to a 750ti by what they claim.
either way it should work fine desu. reminder that he plays roblox, which i could run by sticking 2 jumper wires up my asshole.
Lincoln Martin
ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/QK4FP3 This is a bit more expensive than I would like, any suggestions? I would like to use a future proof CPU, but maybe this is overkill along with the motherboard.
Benjamin Carter
made me laugh, thanks
Levi Torres
>any suggestions? eliminate the CPU Cooler. Ryzen comes with a Decent cooler. Alternatively, upgrade to the 2700X and get the best AMD cooler. Up the ram speed to 3000 Mhz or better.
I know he's just playing light games which is why I suggested a 750ti or 265. That doesn't change that it's best to avoid him paying $50 for something that's only worth $15. He should get his $50-$70 worth.