/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Learn how to build a PC (You can find more detailed videos on YouTube)
youtube.com/watch?v=9M2-UIwWguw
>How to install Win7 on new CPUs
pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1

Want help?
>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build
>List your uses - e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g. photo editing, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

Overclocking
>Use PBO on Ryzen. Legacy overclocking is defunct on Ryzen 2#00X CPUs. youtube.com/watch?v=FC3fsVk9Sss

CPUs
>R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming (dGPU optional)
>R5 2400G - Consider IF on sale
>R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs
>i7-8700K - Best for 1080p gaming, but most expensive when factoring in delid, high-end cooler, etc.
>R7 2700/X - Best high-end gaming/mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform
>Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT

Motherboards
>Only Z300 series boards can utilize fast memory with Intel

RAM
>8GB - Enough for most gaming use
>16GB - Standard for heavy use
>32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this much
>Current CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal

Graphics cards
>GPU prices have gone down
1080p
>RX 580 or 1060 6GB are standard 1080p 60fps+ options
>1050Ti or RX560 for lower settings 1080p, or older games
>GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 if seeking higher fps & you have a CPU + monitor to match
1440p
>Vega 56 or Vega 64 /w Freesync; 1070Ti if you already have Gsync
>GTX 1080Ti if seeking higher fps & you have a CPU + monitor to match
2160p(4K)
>Titan V

Storage
>Consider StoreMi
>Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD
>2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB
>M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard

Monitors
>Always consider FreeSync with AMD cards
>Lock to 72fps on 144hz non-Gsync monitors with Nvidia cards to prevent tearing on more demanding games
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING

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youtube.com/watch?v=4kxE5Lr5FyI
youtube.com/watch?v=u_QS0sjg6YU
youtube.com/watch?v=71onBU69dNg
pcpartpicker.com/list/86ZsKB
youtube.com/watch?v=k9vBfHaVWLI
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAD2C72D9189&cm_re=rx_580-_-14-150-803-_-Product
pcpartpicker.com/list/cxKH4q
youtube.com/watch?v=Sw84CDr_CZs
gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-AB350M-DS3H-rev-1x#kf
modivio.com
pcpartpicker.com/list/bRmPzY
pcpartpicker.com/list/gWhPzY
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

Hi Jow Forums,
I have an r9 285 and an i5-4690K, noticing some stuttering on games like dark souls 3. I have an option to add another r9 or just a straight upgrade. Which should I do? Any help appreciated

>AMD
OY VEY GOYIM DELID DIS THREAD NOW

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Still unemployed, eh?

Adding another GPU won't solve your stuttering issue, but upgrading to an i7 may. 4C/4T just isn't enough anymore.

Still have shit performance, eh?

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Threadly reminder that the Intel shill that roams these threads revealed himself as an israeli that throws palestinian as an insult to everyone that disagrees with him

shhh. Shilling for Intel pays his bills.

>spending $100 more to gain 7% more performance

>$100

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Newest HP Slimline High Performance Desktop (2018 Edition), Intel Quad Core i7-7700T Processor up to 3.8GHz, 12GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM HDD, DVD +/- RW, WiFi, Bluetooth, HDMI, USB Type-C, Win 10

I need to better graphics card for this PC. I only have the built in one.

Sure
techspot.com/review/1162-dark-souls-3-benchmarks/page5.html

He's fucking GPU limited.

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youtube.com/watch?v=4kxE5Lr5FyI

Allah disapproves.

It's been explained a few times but $30 more at most for a B-Die kit and $15 more for the Spire or $40 for a decent cooler, it still doesn't add up to $100

الله doesn't exist.

youtube.com/watch?v=u_QS0sjg6YU

30 ram+ 10 cpu+ 30 mobo+ 40 cooler
Thats the minimum and it above 100

الله doesn't exist.

youtube.com/watch?v=u_QS0sjg6YU

Hmmm, I haven't seen this one yet.

Soundproof headset or don't mind pc noise? Put PC on desk
Speakers and Sensitive to sound in general? Do you vacuum often?
Put it under the desk.

Are m.2 SSDs better for OS or vidya storage?
I have a 500gb 850 evo and a pretty bad 120gb Kingston SSD. Some time during the future I plan on getting an m.2 SSD. Do I get a 500gb one for vidya or just get a 120gb for windows? Such ludicrous speeds are not that useful when booting into Windows but 500gb may not cut it since AAA video games nowadays are almost hundreds of GB in size. Should I get an expensive 1tb m.2 SSD for vidya instead?

get a gtx 1060

What about slowing framerate? And if I decide to change out the gpu should I go with another amd since I have one now?

>considering the 8400 at all
>spending $420 on a 1070 and not being able to fully use it

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Should I buy Samsung SSDs exclusively because they help pioneer and oversee a lot of the new flash technologies? I was thinking about Mushkin initially.

>8400 is better gaming price/perf than 2600
>somehow throwing more money at it will improve it
Kek

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Yeah like you can't pair a 2600 with a B350 or a A320 motherboard
youtube.com/watch?v=71onBU69dNg

That's not bf5
>filename
Intel 1 AMD 0

Why do you have to like garbage like this?
Go back to AMD

Crossfire is shit. Always go with the single best GPU you can afford. (Unless you get some screaming deal on used parts)
See the review above for what you need for DS3. I don't feel like spoonfeeding you.

>somehow throwing more money at it will improve it
It actually will and the price difference isn't that much when you take into consideration the 6 extra threads

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Hey so I managed to turn on the PC and configure the bios. I saved and quit but then the PC wouldn't post.
I get a flashing orange and red light near the ram.

I tried reseating the cpu
Trying a single stick of ram in each slot. In some spots the ram would show an orange light in others it would show red and orange.

I tried resetting the cmos multiple times and taking out the battery and resetting.

I think my bios was corrupted and my motherboard died because of it.

If need be I'll go into microcenter and swap it for a good one tomorrow.

pcpartpicker.com/list/86ZsKB

الله doesn't exist.

youtube.com/watch?v=k9vBfHaVWLI

>configure the bios
What did you change?

I set the ram to 3200mhz and set the boot drive to my ssd

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAD2C72D9189&cm_re=rx_580-_-14-150-803-_-Product
>xfx rx 580 8gb
>$300
worth it?

They're fairly overbuilt. Definitely good cards. Worth noting MSRP is around $240 though

Good luck getting stable oc for hours with a shitty b350. Also ram goes up to 3200 so consider fps drop to the graphs you show.
>he thinks 6 extra threads improve gaming performance
I dont think anyone is photoshopping, watching 10 videos and gaming at the same time user

Just wait for 14nm+++

>when you take into consideration the 6 extra threads
HT is shit, we need an 8 core CPU

thanks user. would really prefer vega but can't justify $600+ on graphics

Is anyone running both an M.2 and a 2.5 SSD in their build? or does the M.2 negate the purpose

Looks like I'm gonna return it tomorrow. Hope a new board works.


Wish this thing had a dual bios but whatever. Asus isn't known for reliability.

I do, got a 120gb 2.5" ssd 4 years ago but decided to get a 250 m2 drive 7 months ago just for more space.

I put games on the 120gb now, works pretty well, if I had built it now I probably would have just spent the money on a bigger/faster m2 disk though.

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I showed you evidence of it working and the 8400 stuttering you madman

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pcpartpicker.com/list/cxKH4q
Alright, as far as components I have, I have a case and hard drives. Everything else is optional. Am I paying too much for what I'm getting? or is it pretty solid

>stuttermeme
>never with a single fact to back it up

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Is there a big difference from 3.95 to 4.0 ghz?
My 1600x won't do 4.0 unless I go over 1.4 voltage, while I can do 4.95ghz on 1.375

3.95ghz on 1.375 with no problems*

الله doesn't exist.
Miku does.

youtube.com/watch?v=Sw84CDr_CZs

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please stop posting cpu benchmarks this is too much my mom, my cat and myself are all crying right now

Why do I get tearing is youtube videos?
I'm using chrome, hardware acceleration is on.

Its a Post Crappy Bar Graphs thread

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So I've made a retarded mistake and bought this mobo:
gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-AB350M-DS3H-rev-1x#kf
for my ryzen 2600. I got a 1.1 revision and I've been really worried about how it's unsupported. I don't have all my parts delivered yet I've read some things about it and I'm not sure whether the level of support is it getting throttled the fuck out but still enough to flash the bios or not even turning on. Should I get it flashed at a pc shop now or should I give it a shot and risk having to wait more and have to wash off the thermal paste as well?

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When you get the other one update the BIOS before enabling XMP

Finally someone found these graphs. Maybe now he will shut up

Why isn't anyone asking why Battlefield is so poorly optimized in the first place? Here's my Ryzen locked to 4 cores just for fun, it holds a 100% stable 60fps in DOOM multi. Sure the CPU usage is a bit higher than you would want but something like a oc'd 4690k or 6600k would probably do better than a quad core Ryzen. Eirther way, in games like DOOM and Prey quad cores are stutter free, yet supposedly they can't play Battlefield? Why do you care about a shit game then?

You guys realize that high CPU usage is the #1 indicator of a shitty console port, right?

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you're drunk on Jow Forums, consider taking better care of yourself

>1000W psu
>rgb fans
>shit ram
>no ssd
Looks good to me

>pcpartpicker.com/list/cxKH4q
That power supply is far too much.
Even 750w is overkill.
Buying that 1000w PSU takes you out of the peak efficiency zone.
Also get a NVME drive

I'm sending back my Asus x370 pro, the gb x470 aorus is a better with a ryzen 5 2600X and DDR4-3200, right?

How much worse is the ASRock z370 pro4 compared to the z370 killer?
Trying to decide if a difference of $60 will make me regret it in the long run

Pro 4 has 3 phases. Its shit

brainlet here
can you use an external hard drive as a boot drive if there's a bunch of other stuff already on it?

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>you will always have a 970

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modivio.com

I was researching SFF cases and found these which look really nice. They're 3D printed though, but I really like their game console look. What do you guys think?

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>pcpartpicker.com/list/bRmPzY
How is this looking? Is there anything I can change to saw a few bucks? Exactly how the hell do I deal with the BIOS update issue that the Ryzen 5 2600 has? I heard that you need another cpu in order to update it, but this will be my first and only desktop, so I don't exactly have an extra one lying around. I was going to get the 1600 instead in order to avoid the hassle, but everyone is telling me to just get the 2600.

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>you will have to live with the fact that you wasted money on a 1080ti because you were impatient

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looks awful

id get a bigger SSD like the samsung 860, and I'd get a better monitor if you're going to get that card, or I'd probably just wait to see what the new generation of cards is gonna be. don't bother with a wi-fi adapter.

the peripherals are okay but I'm more of a corsair fan so there's that

no is the simple answer

>Don't bother with a wi-fi adapter
Why not? My router/modem is so far away that I have no choice but to use wifi, the only alternative I have is running ethernet through the wall which isn't an option because reasons. I would understand if the motherboard had built in wifi, but it doesn't.

don't ask for opinions on asthetics here. If you like it buy it.

pcpartpicker.com/list/gWhPzY
how is that? I have some storage from my old pc, so thats why no storage

then buy a EoP adapter

try moving your setup around so you have better acces to your modem?

>1080ti
>1080p

I've got two M.2 and two 2.5, and am going to buy another 2.5.

If you hunt for bargains, you tend to snap up smaller SSDs rather than the 1TB+ models. Lots of good deals on 480GB ones.

why not? it's already formatted correctly, my mother board supports UEFI, and the drive is formatted correctly

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Personally I like it, maybe swap that WD drive for a samsung. You could cheap out a little on the ram if you wanted, faster ram makes a negligible difference.
Otherwise that'll be a fun gaming PC.

>1080Ti
>1080p

Look everyone, a pro gamer!

Fag.

Lol no way I'm returning my b350f strix tomorrow for an x470 aurorus

Are RAM prices ever going to come down?

Do I even need more than 8 GB?

I need a computer for 3D design and rendering, I'll be mostly using Rhinoceros 3D for CAD and Keyshot for rendering

Still can't decide if I should go for i7 (or Ryzen) + gaming GPU or Xeon + Quadro Gpu

There are lots of conflicting info out there

My router's in my sister's room and she masturbates too loudly

If you're asking the question it's too difficult to explain to you.
I already told you no, weeb

Which graphics card would you recommend then? I would like to upgrade at some point to 1440p but I only wanna upgrade my monitor once. Since I don't have the money to buy two right now

lol sound cloud that if the thread is still up

.... you notice stuttering and you think the GPU is the problem?
Come on.
GPU is almost never the cause of stuttering (except in the case of faulty drivers). That's your CPU.
4c/4t is not enough now days. Hasn't been for at least 2 years.

You need to replace your CPU with a 4790 and perhaps faster ram. Or simply upgrade to a 2600X.

I've had 0 bad experience with AMD cards, but I'm also choosey about which I buy.
My 9700 Pro, 5770, and 7970 all work flawlessly to this day.

Avoid cheap MSI/Gigabyte/ASUS/Powercolor models, but high end ASUS/MSI/Powercolor are fine (not Gigabyte, they don't make high end they just pretend to).
XFX and Sapphire are fine for both low and high end.

Yes. Get the $20 amazon/steam card through their rebate on twitter. At $280 that's a nice card and probably the one to get at the moment.

In such a situation, I'd recommend putting OS on the 120gb, and pair the 250gb with a HDD in StoreMi to install everything else to like games and it'll automatically sort what's read most often.

You can get Vega56 AND a 1440p freesync IPS monitor for roughly the price of a 1080Ti... so why not get both now instead of JUST a graphics card that is stupidly overkill for your monitor?

If you want to preserve the data on the drive you need a specialised partition program. Whatever the new version of partition magic is now.
You will need to repartition and when you are installing windows you will need to make SURE you do NOT let it create any new partitions.
Usually 3 are created during install, so you will need to create these all with your partition software.
After that and a successful install you will need to make sure it is the bootable drive in your computer. Do not do this if it is anything less than usb3.0
You risk loosing everything doing a repartition on a drive with data.
Good luck!

he's implying your graphics card is too good for your monitor, he's poor, and he's missing the fact that you have a 144hz monitor on the list.

get a 4gb card, das3 uses lots of vram since fromshit cant optimize for shit

oh crap, what have I done

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>Asus isn't known for reliability
You've gotta not pay too much attention to retards here who don't understand the difference between statistical evidence and confirmation bias.

4gb/8gb*

Congratulations. Your quints were not wasted on an AMD vs intel or any religious/ethnic shitpost. That's quite the accomplishment.

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I need some help lads.

Where the fuck do I install my SSD?

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put all the shit in first and worry about it later

I don't think anyone knows if the prices will come down. I mean theoretically they should but that won't stop retailers from increasing prices

Anybody have any experience with the Samsung CFG73 27" monitor? I just bought it but now I'm reading that the panel has had some quality control issues, just curious if you guys know anything. I got a pretty good deal on it so I'm tempted to take my chances