Why even consider another OS?

it's pree simps bro
>install netinst.iso
>boot, update apt.conf
>update, dist-upgrade
>reboot into sid
>install pkgs

testing is alright
things tend to break eventually on sid

I like using a kernel made in this decade.

Tried to install debian, it requires you to already be on linux. If I have to install linux to install linux... I'll just use another OS

wut

>systemd
no thanks

testing is as stable as using the latest Firefox beta, it'll break in very rare occasions or very specific situations

personally, I never had issues

>that vagina

what they were smoking

Alpine Linux
- smaller and fewer components than a Debian netinst
- systemd-free
- uses based OpenRC, like Gentoo
- useful for containers and minimalist servers
OpenWrt
- runs on your router
OpenBSD
- best firewall
- best security defaults
- anti-CoC

>Debian rulz
>Ubuntu droolz
This is a newfag opinion, tbf.

You know you can install apt on opensuse right?

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Jow Forums the name of that program that hooks into the bug reports when you run apt

I forget its name, but it really helps on debian unstable. get a heads-up if you're about to install a critical bug report

>wifi doesn't work

nvm got it: apt-listbugs

packages.debian.org/sid/apt-listbugs

Not at all, Debian heavily patches his packaged and while the base system is old on Slackware, Slackbuilds are up to date. Plus no systemd
Debian is still a decent distro though, just not on Slackware level

What the actual bloody fuck are you talking about?

What is it with systemd that you all hate?

I got a debian question.

When you do sudo apt install nameofpackage, it lists what packages will be installed and recommended package to install.
Is there a command to install the recommended packages?

apt-get install nameofpackage --install-suggests

>Arch: for the practical
>Ubuntu: just kys if you use this
So how's middle school?

Found this on Wish for 15$

Find 1 mistake.

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you didn't ordered programming socks with it

thank me later

Just werks. I switched from Slackware to Debian like 1 year ago and since then it's my daily distro.

Because wifi doesn't work on Debian you dumb retard

>debian
>minimal
Also, install Crux!

dayum those sleeves are fucked, man
and also a logo is more like just 9 here, not DeadIan

>debian
>metapackages

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Distrohopped for years, ended on it. It is pretty much my favorite distro.
Other distros also have their merits though, nothing's perfect.

You shouldn't be using wifi and shouldn't own hardware incompatible with free software. Fix your behavior.

how hard is it to a noob like me install and mantain debian testing? I want bleeding edge packages. also what's the best DE that matches debian perfectly? I heard KDE + debian is a total mess

>wifi driver not found

lol sid usually gets kernel updates faster than arch

Is good.

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>I heard KDE + debian is a total mess
Is it? I was considering using debian w/ kde

Apt is literally the worst package manager lol

KDE is a mess all together

>I heard KDE + debian is a total mess
I use it daily in production and don't have much of a problem

Moreso than gnome?

I would like a way to provision some Debian-based machines (install packages, insert config files and settings).
I don't need cross platform, they're all going to be Debian or derivatives of Debian (Ubuntu)

Are there ways to do this without installing stuff like Chef?
Currently I'm just running off a bash script, but that shit has become hideous to look at.

every single time ive tried to install it, grub got fucked in the ass
no thanks

If you only care about initial install, not maintenance after that, you can use a pre-seeded Debian installer.
You can tell it what packages to install on top of the standard ones, give configuration to those packages, and run whatever commands/scripts.
It also can make the installation itself completely non-interactive, if you provide the equivalent configuration options to the questions the installer would normally ask.

How do you fuck this up

Just get mate or xfce. Lightweight and works like a charm.

I am using xfce.

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Fedora stable is more up to date than Debian stable.

>Why even consider another OS?

what is Devuan ?

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Why should he not be using wifi?

>they cant install even a fucking driver from the repo
the absolute state of Jow Forums

debian stable isnt even meant to be up to date - the package versions are fixed in debian stable intentionally, only security fixes are added

jesus, read something before you post

But Fedora sucks ass.

As much as I love Debian, why is there no wifi? Is there really no way to fix it?

GOOGLE YOUR FUCKING WIFI DRIVER YOU FUCKING IDIOTS ITS NOT THAT HARD HOLY FUCK

You're lying or stupid

they dont even have to google anything, just apt-cache search

on the other hand, at least debian doesnt get swarmed by idiots like it happened to some other distros

>Arch: for the practical
lolwut

why?

Now i feel like an idiot.

All I had forgot was modprobe iwlwifi....

what? why would need to do that

I like Instagram and Office.

software support

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I use ubuntu because It's easy to install, and has a good amount of packages available.

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Because it made it work.

greetings my fellow anão

that makes no sense, dumbo

kernel has module-request mechanism built-in, it decides itself what module and when, depending on detected HW, gets loaded in

this is distribution-independent

crux actually looks nice, thanks user

Well that's how I made the wifi work. Believe it or not, I really don't care.

me too, I always come back to Ubuntu. It's a shame but it's true. And you can be minimal too.

i mainly use ubuntu.. just werks

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Can someone explain why CentOS isn't a more popular choice here?

because RHEL

A meme? You can just install SysV init on debian if you hate systemD

how many attempts did it take to get the minesweeper

This guy is a fellow genius who installed htop and made his terminal windows transparent so it goes without saying that it took him no more than 10 tries to complete a 9x9 minesweeper.

install gentoo

obsolete packges even if you use the unstable branch

You're welcome! Post neofetch later. ;)

I started with Red Hat 5. Then I used Debian for a number of years. After that, I ran Funtoo. I'd still be using Funtoo, but not having to compile everything is appealing for laptops, so these days I use Arch. I haven't had to do anything aside from the initial for 5 years to date.

I want packages from this decade.

>whats net iso
anal and broken is what it is

installing arch is literary easier that debian

did it put the mbr on the install medium instead of the hdd with no option to change it for you too? Jow Forums thinks install gentoo is a meme but im pretty sure install debian is a troll

how can other logos even compete

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You're sick.

They think their privacy is being invaded with it.

no i'm actually not using debian

netinst just grabs packages over the network instead of the disc, you get the same install options with the full images
may as well use mini.iso to be that bit more up to date during install

/THREAD

installing with the mini.iso is slower in my experience

>systemd

>repos are empty graveyards
>every guide is out dated
>every package is outdated
>have to jump through 12,000 hoops just to install working drivers for my graphics card

it's just fucking garbage, one of the debian images was even a god damn zip bomb

It's okay to be wrong user, I will help you not be wrong.

Gentoo: for the autistic
Arch: for the autistic and the gay
Debian: for autistic boomers
ubuntu: Autistic or indian

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well yeah, it has to download more, not even the installer modules are on the disc