Why would anyone get a CS degree?
Why would anyone get a CS degree?
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Because I want to earn more than a high school algebra teacher.
This
And i like making over 150k/yr
Naive idiots who think they'll be hacking the matrix or some bullshit when they'll most likely be doing the tickets TCS doesn't want to do or working as web-devs if they are lucky.
>math phd
>300k starting
>any job i want
>math phd
>25k starting
>any high school I want
Math majors make the program and the CS code monkeys scale it.
Math majors make more money
Math is unironically terrible to major in. Yes, the ceiling is higher than CS and many other fields, but if you're not essentially a genius (and if you have to ask, the answer is no), you won't ever reach the ceiling and, instead, will have to settle for random oddjobs that are basically glorified software development -- or, worse, academia. So you get to accumulate a shitton of kinda cool, highly esoteric knowledge, but unless you're the top 1% of majors, you won't get a job anywhere related to it. Period.
Statistics, often a separate major than math, is probably the better major.
Math majors teach high schoolers algebra.
What about a Bachelors in Math + Stats and a Masters in Comp Sci or machine learning?
Education majors teach high schoolers algebra
As a math major from UC berkeley, I can say that CS classes are much harder than the math courses. Idk why. I've probably done more serious and fun math in my CS courses than in any math course (with the exception probably of linear algebra and abstract algebra).
But CS major will give you more connections. You will get to know fucks that later go on to Palantir, Google, etc. but in the math major you'll basically meet hippies and asians who will work in Punjab or Chinkshit Inc.
>PhD
Yeah dude, see here, there are a lot of programmers who don't even have a bachelor's. You lost a lot of time for what is essentially a paper confirming that an institution says you are a "good boye". Accounting for that time lost+money spent even if your 300k figure would be true, I'm not sure it's worth it.
Better a web dev with 1 year of college instead of entering the workforce at 40 because of college
>education majors
lel you mean getting a teaching certificate?
How cute, you're dropping redpills for all the summer kiddies. Let them live out their delusional memes if they want too. You're wasting your time.
this doesn't apply to UC Berkeley and probably other top tier schools because they make it so hard you can't pass if you don't know math. At least the people I know are like this.
>be electrical engineering major
>never taken any remotely advanced CS classes
>completely self-taught in programming
>employed as an embedded developer, mostly working on firmware/software stuff
>make more money than my CS friends
>found my job easier than my CS friends found theirs
feels embedded, man
UC Berkeley lower division math courses are a joke. You can get half the points on a test and end up with a B+.
I'll see you try get half the points though. Although i can't really say, haven't taken many lower division math courses (I knew they weren't gonna be about learning so I took them in the community college down the street).
contribute to GNU then, faggot
Sounds like the average analog class in EE. I'm fucking ecstatic when I get a 90. Out of 200.
>contributing to open source software
pleb no
I'd kill myself if I had to do such a formulaic and boring job
I only took 53 and 54. Got an A+ in 53 and A in 54.
>being proud of being a closed source faggot
yeah, I rejected an offer from Palantir. What did you do for the free world?
>Why would anyone get a CS degree?
>But CS major will give you more connections.
so whats a good major/career field if I don't want to have to network, and want to deal with people as little as possible?
nice. I personally hate diffeqs so I didn't get an A in them but I love linalg so I def did get an A there. (i took 53 and 54 in berkeley unlike the calc classes).
gay 4 pay
become an actuary. unironically. almost 0 human interaction, all you do is crunch numbers for big insurance companies. I would die doing this even though i'm much more introverted than the avg human, but the asians enjoy it.
You answered your own question in your image.
>studied law
>receive 2600 euro a month because lol i only have a bachelor and not a master
>make a webshop for someone usung a cms
>making a custom design, talking to the person and revisions take me 1 to 3 days
>receive 2500 euro
I got a B+ I'm linear alg, but had a tutor and took it at community college. Hell, I had tutors for calc 1 and 2 and Stat,but managed a B in stat as well. Discrete math i did myself but passed by the skin of my teeth by doing the extra credit project. Do I feel like a brainlet? Yes, but I was also very depressed in college and unwilling to do pretty much anything but smoke weed and shitpost Linux threads. On the bright side, after 5 years in our of there and have the rest of my life to go deeper into math and truly understand it.
I'm applying for jobs and they all ask for frameworks, database, and API knowledge. I want out of this brainlet mobile dev life. If love to learn more about Linear Algebra and work on game engines, or actually understand Big O and write data structures and algorthims. But for now I'm fresh out of college as a developer (stack overflow copy and paste monkey)
Here's my github, to see how I stsnd
github.com
>Masters in Comp Sci or machine learning?
ML or data science isn't a graduate job. Every job in this area requires domain specific knowledge in the form of experience.
Going in this hard without prior data analysis or programming jobs isn't a good idea.
Accepted an offer for palantir.
My people are not going to be free until we have your people enslaved.
kike detected
Actuarial is what a lot of the failed quants fall into.
It's not some meme job for autistic spergs who can't talk to people like you make it seem.
No just a satanist :^)
We came up with the idea of using kikes as a scapegoet 6000 years ago
My graduating class had about 10 graduates for comp sci (we're a small university) and all of us have gotten successful jobs in the industry somewhere.
Nobody cares gramps
same thing. Satanism is probably an advanced form of kikery.
to learn how to crop before posting
I oversimplified it for the sake of the greentext. We develop an operating system for deployment on Cortex microcontrollers. It's really unique- no heap, miniscule stack, virtually everything is statically allocated. Makes for some huge design challenges when it comes to handling end-user code, but it's also ridiculously efficient. Shit runs fast as fuck even though we aren't even using a proper CPU. I can't go into too much detail because then I'm getting into trade secrets (we have a couple of competitors who would kill to know how this shit works), but you get the idea. It's a bizarre design challenge that throws a lot of the common CS assumptions completely out the window.
8051 MCUs got obsoleted a long time ago, but some of them are finally going out of production now, so a bunch of our products need to run on a new MCU. I'm basically the MCU czar for the time being, because I'm the one who's figuring out how to wrangle the APIs for the new platform. It can be frustrating, but it has that same rewarding feeling as my first intro to MCUs classes years ago- super confusing, then suddenly you figure out how everything works together, and your code works. It's a really nice feel.
nice trips, but why would my career make me any more inclined than anyone else for contributing to GNU?
ok but I piss away my money on alcohol, is that really any better
don't worry user, I too piss away my money on alcohol and weed, and I post on Jow Forums, but I flunked linear alg the first time around. Blew through multivariable calc like it was nothing, though.
the truth hurts
how much money do you make a year
I'm not on a salary but it comes out to around $60k a year. I'm still in college, but they've offered me a permanent job, without contingency on my graduation. If I wanted to, I could just drop out keep my current job. I'm gonna graduate and go back with a decent raise.
UC Berkeley has a non-shit CS program, which is why you had to do actual math and work.
If you're attending some bumfuck degree mill then a CS degree will be far easier than a math degree, since the CS program will be full of and cater to retards who heard CS makes good money.
>Math majors make the program and the CS code monkeys scale it.
Sadly no they only write unreadable papers.
hey seriously, I'm gonna study math bit I want to do programming as an actual work, I'm learning C on linux (the Jow Forums meme even though I know python gets more jobs). Do they even care if you have a degree at all? I'm thinking of changing to comp sci even though is a worse uni here
Just look at the stats, people with degrees earn a lot more, it's well worth it still.
What I'm thinking is, people who do certain career most likely don't pursue anything a lot different that what they study, thus the stats. But I'm thinking If it really is that, or even is that even though I get the same job as a CS Major, as a Math Major, I would get paid less. Or even though if they were to pay the same, will they even look at me for making the contract?
Because I failed my math degree
People in the same job make more if they have a degree
Fucking Windows users. Quick tip: shrink the ms paint canvas, and it'll resize to fit what you paste into it.
That's not true at all; a computer scientist is the one coming up with the algorithm and a monkey programs it. You also need a talented computer scientist who can do both in order to lead a team of shitty programmers.
You also need a mathematician to lead the good CS
well im not in CS for the programming, theres a million other CS jobs out there.
>Why would anyone get a CS degree?
to have fun with uneducated Jow Forumseetards.
Reminder that mathfags unironically believe that they can learn everything related to CS in a few days
>t. /sci/ grad student making poverty wage
Because they're too stupid for engineering.
the world doesnt work like that kid, as opposed to common tought technology jobs need a lot of team interaction to be done well.
I dropped out of my math degree because I realised all I would end up doing is teaching high school math.
Not everything but anything they need to learn for the job they can just pickup on demand.
CSfags can't do the same with Math however, you need rigorous practice and an instructor.
Maybe you should have gotten straight A's
But it's true tho retard.
topkek do you think mergesort is non-intuitive and impossible to derive on your own?
>Sorry, user, while your theoretical knowledge is impressive, we're looking for a candidate with more practical experience
>25k
>any highschool I want
another embeddedfag here
I develop motor control software for electric cars
the best part is when you spend several months developing something and test the shit out of it in simulation, you then get to coax it into submission on the actual vehicle and then see it work on a test drive
shit's cash
>not making that sweet 350k
see
>thinking that honours mathfags can't get those jobs
With straight A you could become a PhD with nice job in Academia, Statistics, or Coding.
But with Ds , Cs and Bs math majors end up teaching math in high school.
>thinking that honours mathfags can't get those jobs
Only Math Fags from Ivy league tier colleges with straight As and a PhD can.
Getting straight As in CS is much easier and give the same job prospects / outcome.
Why would anyone go to college if they are not going to get straight A's?
I'm curious, did palantir also market themselves as 'saving the world' while recruiting you?
No I am an insider so we are laughing at all the nefarious things we are doing.
That certainly makes more sense. I wasn't sure if the recruiters actually believed their nonsense or not. Are goatees mandatory, and how often must you twirl them?
Are only real demands is that you have exceptional talent or you have the correct ancestors.
As an eecs major there right now, people fall for the ai/ml meme and then complain about why they need to take so many math classes. I take math classes for fun because they're interesting. And there are way less people in them anyways, which is refreshing.
>Why would anyone get a CS degree and still have no clue how to code
Like me, so there are worst examples.
I needed a surrogate activity after high school.
>adv lurker detected
There is no way a real CS major wrote this
>going to a public school
Kek poorfag nigger
based liberal muslim
>whats a good major/career field if I don't want to have to network
Not possible.
If you want to have a job that pays well and not stagnate in some dead end job you will not in any case get around networking. The only case where you'd have a chance to get around it is if you were a genius and no matter what your third grade IT teacher told you, you will not be the next hot shit.
Every single person who gets a job at microsoft knew someone at microsoft?