/dht/ - Daily Haiku Thread

/dht/ - Daily Haiku Thread


Welcome to the /dht/ - Daily Haiku Thread.


Official Website:haiku-os.org/

Forum (not for bugreports):discuss.haiku-os.org/

Bugtracker (only for OS bugs, not for ports):dev.haiku-os.org/

Localization:i18n.haiku-os.org/

Virtualizing Haiku guides:haiku-os.org/guides/virtualizing/


HaikuPorts repo:github.com/haikuports/haikuports

HaikuPorts bugtracker:github.com/haikuports/haikuports/issues

HaikuPorts Wiki (what is package management and how to make a package):github.com/haikuports/haikuports/wiki

HaikuDepot Web Interface (do not forget to select your architecture):depot.haiku-os.org

Buildbot Interaces:kitchen.haiku-os.org/master/


IRC: #haiku at freenode

Haiku official mailing list:freelists.org/archives/haiku/


Haiku Inc.:haiku-inc.org/

Donations:haiku-inc.org/donations.html#online

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Other urls found in this thread:

github.com/haikuports/haikuports/issues/1801
twitter.com/AnonBabble

What, the *devteam* can now afford a daily paid shill?
Cool I guess.

They take it in turns.
This is what love is.

What does Haiku have that working OSes don't?

Soul.

>Uses C++ for the desktop
>No tiling
This os is already dead, long live plan9

Neither of these operating systems have video games on them, so what's the point?

Gpu passthrough + virtual machine with wankdows + kvm = games

When will you fix MPV?

Consider me sold if it runs without fuckery on an Intel GMA 500 chipset. Fucking netbooks.

Lemme chek it today afternoon. I already wanted to bump it to the current version, lets do both in the same time.

Nice logo you got there... it would be a shame if something were to happen to it...

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you have now nine reasons to install haiku eleven times!

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What? I can't play tux cart on haiku? Wtf

I tried booting Haiku's last two nightlies on a Thinkpad T60 and they both hung on a black screen after the bootloader

How is this color format called? I want to convert my color scheme but it's in the standard HTML.

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Did you try nighties?
I think for t60 you can use alpha and just update it.

I'm going to bet the font rendering is as bad as on every other linux distros. I'll try it though.

RGB

Linux Font Rendering is great now.
Haiku not so much. Settings page says you have to compile it yourself to be good.

Thanks.

You cannot update an alpha to nightly.

Yep, it is because patents afaik.

Are there any plans of supporting Fish Shell?

>Linux Font Rendering is great now.

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It's so retarded.
Ghostscript can render perfectly, Apple has proved that using PS/PDF and a rednerer can produce excellent results.
Ghostscript is free as in freedom
Why isn't Linux font rendering fixed 15 years ago - why is it still so fucking bad?

Do you have anything to object or is your opinion based on memes? In the latter case I strongly suggest getting freetype-2.9.1 and trying it with different settings.

I also suggest getting monitor with adequate PPI (at least 200). But this is a general suggestion disregarding your OS of choice.

I'm assuming this isn't a bait, just pure ignorance. It's just decimals instead of hex. In #FFFFFF, you got two digits for red, two for blue and two for green, you convert each number to its hexadecimal representation and that's it. I know this is what Jow Forums has become over the past few years but I still used to take shit like that for granted, turns out I was totally wrong

>freetype fixes it you just have to figure out the good settings.
>btw get a 200ppi screen it'll help my post purchase rationalization
how to not laugh and get pissed at linux nggers?

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Port exist since long, but there is a bug in libc implementation so it crashing if one closing the terminal.

github.com/haikuports/haikuports/issues/1801

So, your opinion is based on memes. I do suggest trying it for yourself.

>You just need settings
Same as everywhere.
There are literally 3 parameters and a toggle. You can't choose the best from there?
If you actually can't, use the default is in the DE of choice, should be good rough for you.
>btw get a 200ppi screen it'll help my post purchase rationalization
As I said, this suggestion is not for Linux, but for every OS.
Fonts in my ~110 PPI screen look like shit regardless the OS compared to my laptop's ~211 PPI.

what OS(es) are you using?
What are your freetype settings?

At home Windows10/Gentoo
On laptop Void Linux.

Latter uses slight hinting, RGB subpixel and default LCD filter. My friend thinks full hitting looks better, but I disagree.

dude thoses settings are not enough to make the font rendering as good as on win7.
Why are linux fags so unaware?

look at the libshit getting trold

I wasn't trolling, user.

Font rendering is absolutely shit on windows 7, you're fucking delusional. Setting a custom resolution on Linux works flawlessly and everything is sharp, windows 7 makes everything blurry as fuck.

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Where can I read about Haiku's clipboards?
For example, I want to mpv $(xclip -o -selection clipboard

Did it.

...

Not here yet.
Why are only some windows can tile/stack? I can't tile the window spawned by the HaikuDepot and there is no indication of that.
Also, there needs to be some "smart" window resizer, as the tiled windows often leave the screen and are impossible to resize properly with mouse. What are the shortcuts for that?
Also also, some windows have arbitrary minimal dimentions(HaikuDepot refused to become smaller.)

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>but there is a bug in libc implementation
Why haven't it been fixed "since long"?

the icons remind me on the good old bluecurve days with redhat 9, that might make me switch.

Be vary that there is but one user and the user is root.
I don't think there's a password even.

You don't see people googling to fix their windows font rendering problems do you?
Linux on the other hand...
>works flawlessly and everything is sharp
oh yeah sure.

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well, i think i can play around with it on my dell mini 9.

I have been using Windows since ME and I've recently switched to Linux about a year ago. (Running Debian). Why should I make the switch?

>You don't see people googling to fix their windows font rendering problems do you?
>Implying they know it can be changed.
Also, you are lying.

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Does Haiku have meltdown and spectre patches

And all of them have either disabled cleartype or want it to look like their Mac.

>And all of them
Why do you enjoy lying to much?
>disabled cleartype or want it to look like their Mac.
So they find it unsatisfactory which contradicts your claim.

Just loaded up the latest nightly in a VM!

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It doesn't even have multiple user accounts

Infinality

>which contradicts your claim.
I'm not that guy.
Setting up your fonts in Linux sucks anyway. It's true.
That is because X sucks fucking dicks and should have been thrown into the trash 20 years ago.
The year of the Linux desktop will NEVER come if people just refuse to acknowledge it's shortcomings.
Redhat will be the only one driving things forward, and they really do a terrible job at it.

>That is because X sucks fucking dicks and should have been thrown into the trash 20 years ago.
Opinion discarded.

never forget

Why is this shit so popular? It's not good by design

it isn't popular

your face isn't good by design

The bars to the left is CMYK but the right is just RGB

the base system does have support for multiple accounts, it's just not implemented on the desktop level yet.

After nearly two decades working with IT I can tell you that "good by design" is another way to say "dead". I'm not proud or happy about stating this.

Is haiku usable? Does it run rstudio and a python and other things? Can it do wifi

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I guess OSX users either don't have any issues or just don't care

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Is there any operating system living or dead that is good by design?

TempleOS

I said living or dead not ascended to heavens.

Even the external monitor issues could be a lack of awareness of what it means to be a retina screen

Why is Haiku so cute?!

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9

Might as well run ESXi with several virtual machines and sandboxes like a real adult.

Yes, Plan 9 is close to supremacy.
>does more with less
>no root user
>and good security overall
>native encryption
>no symlinks
>distributed
>actual everything-is-a-file
>union mounting
>Unicode
>snapshot-enabled filesystem
>modular approach
But still...
>monolithic kernel
>low performance
>ad hoc configuration
>in C
>mouse-oriented environment
>shell lacks higher-order functions
>hierarchy filesystem

Thats not true. The bars are interesting, they shows what will happen if you move the dots. Test it, you will see, the colors in the bars changing.

See?

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We can conclude from these searches that terrible Linux rendering is a meme, Windows rendering is best described as ugly and has problems frequent enough, and Mac rendering is considered good.

What's the difference between haiku and Mac OS X?

But it is fixed. It's better than Windows at this point.

Nightly 64 bit now has:
>Qutebrowser
>Emacs (Spacemacs works!)
>Vim
>Rust
>Go
>GCC 7
>mpv
It's literally a few driver fixes (and GPU accel in general) away from working for the typical Jow Forumsentooman.

Stable 64-bit when? Chromium port?

There is no working Go for Haiku, yet.