Are we stuck with this duopoly?

Are we stuck with this duopoly?

I remember a long time ago, other manufacturers (e.g. Cyrix, VIA, Transmeta) used to make desktop chips. I would usually only see them in budget computers and they weren't very popular.

I also remember IBM, Motorola, and a few others used to make chips too. But I don't think they were x86 chips.

Having some more competition would be great for the industry. Look at how little Intel innovated between 2011 and 2018 when AMD's chips stopped being competitive.

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Elbrus CPU exist. They are Russian tech. Made by guys who created Pentium in the first place

AIM still lives on with IBM Power architecture, AMD went fabless years ago, laptops desktops are probably the dumbest/least lucrative part of the market from an actual technologies standpoint and that’s been so for at least 10 years. Markets looking healthy, Intel is looking more and more shaky; they did purchase altera though.

Sparc cpus are released under gnu gpl, you could run an uktrasparc t2 on a fpga.

No.

b-b-but muh AMD dude, they're the best, they're shilled here so much it can't not be true!

I wish Samsung, Realtek, Broadcom, Toshiba, Texas Instruments and all other chip makers got together to create open source CPUs that they could all share.

Space agencies use radiation hardened open source sparc chips called LEON, 400 mhz 32 bit quad core printed on 130 nm is common.

woah thats awesome

>muh x86 duopoly
why do you care

Keeping my house warm at night

jesus christ, man get a fucking grip

VIA still makes desktop chips.

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>Made by guys who created Pentium in the first place
no it's not.

In a few years, desktop-class ARM chips led by Apple will emerge as the first major existential threat to x86 since 1981.

IBM had x86 chips, but then Intel cried to the government and the g man destroyed IBM x86 forever

That sounds awful.

Why?

So x86-64 was originally announced in 1999. I figure they patented it prior to that. So that means that the x86-64 patent will be expiring soon. Maybe we'll see some more x86 based chips in the coming years.

That doesn’t cover the supplemental instruction sets (SSE, etc) that will be needed for compatibility.

Meet the new boss, he's a bigger asshole than the old boss.

I don’t get what you’re trying to say. Could you be less vague?

SSE2 and anything before it will expire at about the same time. Moreover, those aren't required, they'd be nice, but the most important parts of the ISA, namely x86 and x86-64, will be fair game.

ARM laptops are starting to enter the market, but the problem is OEMs are shipping them with Win10 which alone runs like shit and then all the x86 programs are emulated making it even slower.

I'd rather be getting ass fucked by Intel than by Apple.

I said “led by Apple.” They are the current leader in ARM performance, but they don’t own it. Anyone else (Qualcomm, TI, etc) can come along and try to compete.

are we stuck with this triopoly?

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Fortunately, the list of SSD manufacturers is a fair bit longer:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_solid-state_drive_manufacturers

Didn't Toshiba also take part of Hitachi? Their P300 drives are supposed to use the Deskstar design.

What about Windows RT or even Android?

>Windows RT
lol

>Android
>on a laptop
lol

I have seen a few ultra-budget laptop/tablet hybrids a few times and all of them run on Android.

You missed the implication that none of that shit is worth using.

I don't like giving my money to either, but when I do, I expect there to be a certain level of quality and security. Intel has exposed themselves to be really sleazy and incompetent this last year or so. Sorry to say this, but there is no way in hell I'm going to give these weasels another penny for a long,long,time. I would do the same if AMD pulled the shit that Intel has done.It's completely irresponsible and inexcusable coming from a company that has so much influence in the industry.No apologies,just bullshit excuses and spin.

are we stuck with this duopoly?

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Except it doesn't matter, because there's a lot fewer NAND suppliers on which all of those depend for survival. Just like with DRAM.

Such is life under capitalism.

Yes, under glorious Socialism there would be only the People's one "choice". Like it or go to gulag, pigdog.

Capitalism totally prevents monopolies from existing :)

Antitrust laws do, and since companies lobby the FTC there’s no way we live in a capitalist society

>its not my exact specific kind of capitalism, so it doesn't exist

I thought the free markets didn't end up in oligopolies? I bet price fixing conspirancies are also a bunch of lies...

^this

>not true capitalism!!111