IT job market in Europe

>tfw slav
is this how japanese feel about weeaboos?

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Why not just stay where you are and import one?

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Well I haven't even decided on a country yet, but I'll definitely learn the language when I do, that's part of the fun.
I guess that's a no for Russia, then. Too bad, they're major cuties.

This, so much this.

>when you are 27 your only option is ugly girls

hell no. Not unless you are ugly yourself. Work out a bit and get some self confidence - you'll be drowning in teen pussy, because you'll have better looks, more maturity, and more money than any of their contemporaries.

Sounds great man, I'll look into it. What are the major cities I should look into?

>implying I have a choice

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the cold war ended long time ago, russians are friendly now

>But hey, I guess you got yourself a qt. Totally worth screwing your life over.
I would unironically be happier, and that's all that matters.

No hard feelings bro, slav women were made for the big germanic cock, that's by design.

>that 27 year old boomer that chases dumb high school girls
creep

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t.

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fit managed to come up with the most retarded meme of 2018 on Jow Forums. Congrats.

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How about add +3 years, sell a game on steam and become rich?

Ljubljana. Capital city. Avoid any other imo. From there you can explore most of the country. Its nice to live elsewhere too but not as convenient as in Ljubljana.

how badly do you want this slav girl

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you're a fucking retard. the only way to go is to find a qt there and then import her, it's beyond stupid to move from a first world country into a shithole. (all slav countries are shitholes)
t. system engineer from Western Europe with a Ukrainian wife

Estonia or one of the Baltic countries is supposed to be really booming for IT so look there

give

Estonia and pick Russian girl

Lol, good luck with that. Russian women suck and your children will be playing vodka pong in the 6th grade.

I'm from Poland. I dont know what you're smoking, but costs of living here are higher than anywhere else. Food costs literally more than in Germany or England, while we basically earn 5x less. Good luck living in Slav shithole, you'll regret it.

Funny hearing this when the hate against westerners, especially germans and English people here is so extremely, irrationaly high and even women usually treat tourists like shit, just because they know they're not from here

this is more of a german kinda thing

reporting from Serbia, same shit basically with women from my town

Good god stay away from our countries. They are probably shithole indeed and I'm not even trying to protect the women but please just stay the fuck out, we don't need any germanic mental fucking retards strolling around the streets feeling like they belong even when their overwhelmed to adapt to the far more family oriented culture, just no

Serbian women don't like western dick? Seems like a nice place to live if you have money because everything is dirt cheap.

this shit about serbian women craving for the western dick is something I only read on the internet, nothing works without the approval of the dad, he will literally shoot you or beat you to death with his friends if you don't have it. But then again km living in a more rural area but I can also confirm this about Montenegro if youre not at the coast area, tribal fuckers everywhere

wow that pic is me and my cat at night :-)

I believe it. They probably also wear gold jewelry of some kind.

Cost of living isn't even close to compensating the difference. You'll have at least 2 times less purchasing power (or even worse if you go to a real shithole like Ukraine).
There's a reason why everyone wants to get the fuck away.
t. leaving Poland within next year

depends, this seemed to be a thing but it's decreasing, they're becoming slowly more natural in the cities too

referring to jewelry here

What does 'step dad' mean?

So how is it being a guy in those shitholes? To get a cute piece of slav ass you have to what, impress the dad and be good looking? With almost everyone making shit wages how do you get their attention?

Didn't most of German women get raped by Slavs at the end of WW2 lol? You're probably at least 25% Russian.

Have a job or a special title(can't get better than being a doctor), when it comes to tribal areas like Montenegro it's always good being born in a known clan, also generally having a good and trusty relationship with the dad, it's even better when your family is friends with hers, then they often try to setup things

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Ah, makes sense. How shitty though, it all comes down to which family you are born into, and if the dad likes you. I suppose you can try to better the odds by getting a high status education, but I doubt that's easy in those countries. Fuck having to deal with the family though, sounds like fucking dog shit to have to cater to a bunch of cunts just so you can bone their daughter. Getting married to one sounds like hell.

Being married probably is, mostly because the idea of divorce isn't that accepted around here, especially if you compare it to other slavic countries like Russia where it's a completely normal thing. But family is and will be the most important part, this is something which is even hard for kids who are born in "westernized" countries but are slavic(serbian/yugo, Russian, etc.) to grasp. Friends are nothing compared to real family members, family members will be there for you no matter what, you can always rely on them, in absolutely every situation. Friendships are something you sadly loose with time, but family is something you can hardly lose. This "bond"-thingy and the importance of family itself can be a shitty thing though, especially if you can't get along with them.

On a side note it's pretty funny to hear women and man here rant about western women, you will usually hear stuff like "They're jumping from one cock to another" and shit.

>Getting married to one sounds like hell
the whole point is to make pumping and dumping her hell. as far as they're concerned. if you're so easily bullied into marriage, then you're too much of a pussy to get a divorce. as long as the family is concerned, you're now providing for them.

Also i completely forgot: Getting education isn't that hard, yugoslavia made it basically possible for everyone and it still is. The hard thing is getting a good job, especially in more unconventional branches like IT. Most of the stronger companies are getting bought by western companies which then proceed to fuck them up or completely absorb them.

>just one or two, my friend!

>Do you know the language, first of all?
>slavs fear the BWC

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So what you are saying is that if you manage to put a ring on the finger of a cutie that is frankly above what you should expect to get (by winning her family over) then the family and entire culture will make it difficult for her to get out when she realize that she could have done better or that she don't like her married life any more..? It's like a mild form of social control that acts both in advabtage and disadvantage to both sexes.. Also enforces monogamy of cpurse.

if you're not Russian or polish:
basically yes

of course*

What's different about poland and russia? Genuinely curious.

they are poor ass niggers that have never seen a car in real life and they all believe in gypsi magic. they are just afraid to lose their bitches since they have nothing to offer other than being a drunk deadbeat to get them back

The concept of divorce is widely accepted, if you're a shit husband they will leave you

it does not matter if you're white

kek

Fuck off nigger we're full

>never seen a car in their live
people start driving at 13, we're not fucking africa

Stupid gopniks.

>driving camals
you ride them

What doesen't matter? Do you mean that these social dynamics only apply between native slavs? Kinda like how asians never (truely) integrate foreigners into their culture?

Why in god's name would you want to move across ocean to just get some foreign pussy and maybe a job? Shit man, the way this country's going now, it don't take much effort to bump into a "foreign" girl these days. Move to New York, you'll see plenty of girls from all races, religions, etc. Some places, they still do things the "old" way. Meaning, once you tie the knot, your really fucked cause the "family" expects you, the man, to work his ass off and provide for them all, not just the new wife. So say goodbye to any free spending money, free spare time to do your things such as shit post here,etc. Also the concept of divorce does not exist. You're expected to be with her till she dies or you do,whichever happens first. Which will prob be you since your gonna be working your ass off anyway.

I see. So all the drawbacks and none of the benefits? I have a sweet spot for russian women with attitude but I suppose that shit would get old real fast..

not this user but Integration is pretty hard

kek'd

Can you post a list of what nationalities to avoid?

I'm not Russian so I can't say that what I said applies to 100% and of top of this im pretty drunk but I'm trying my best to convey the truth the way I see and esperience it

>Is there any slav country it would make sense for me to move to, financially?
If you're so determined to move to the slavworld and are willing to ignore the ugliness of commieblocks and cracked roads, then I'd suggest Bulgaria since it unironically has a 10% flat personal income tax with nothing else whatsoever
In addition,
>If you have only 1 employer and receive only employment income, you do not have to file an annual tax return.

europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/work/taxes/income-taxes-abroad/bulgaria/index_en.htm

you don't go into the shitskin country, you only take their women and make them cut ties

What about among educated slavs with some class? Do they value foreigners with similar traits? Or do this stuff even permeate higher classes?

This picture was made by a guy that got stuck marrying young.

If you move to Ukraine your savings may be much higher than anywhere else in Europe.
You may get $3000-5000 for a decent position per month. Trick is - it's all yours, the tax is like 5%.
Quality of life is a bit shit though. As in roads, transportation, services, shady people.

I apreciate it, it paints a picture even if it is with broader strokes. Can't get this information except through dialouge like this.

He is thinking of moving to a country where he will be higher on the dominance hierarchy than where he is currently, thus opening up the possibility of finding a more attractive mate than he would otherwise and securing better genes for his kids. It is not an irrational thought process.

idk my guy, cultural differences are something you spot immediately

Hallo bruder.
I am western euro (lichtenstein) programmer too!

Very easy to get slav women with our looks.
You could be a html/php dev and gain respect as intellectual. (C master race)

Ja the countryside is much cheaper and if you secure remote work you can even travel.
Food is very cheap and lower taxes.

How is czech women and their culture about this stuff. Anyone knows?

czech porn should be able to tell you all you need about them.

but will he be higher on the dominance hierarchy tho?

I can apreciate people from any culture as long as they manage to compartmentalize and control it. With money comes freedom and other rules apply.

not the user you quoted but another sloveniafag it guy

The 2 major cities are Ljubljana and Maribor. Ljubljana has really expensive real estate though.

That's just bullshit. Food costs objectively half as much as in Germany. Both groceries and restaurants. And I have yet to see a German job offer that will interest me because they generally pay less of you consider taxes, rent and cost of living.
Poland may be shit for most people, but not IT people.

I've been inside one, it was top quality. But if they have the same slav culture as mentioned I'll tread carefully.

I think they're probably more open, considering that they're a more central European country

This.

German jobs make more $ but the food is twice as much and taxes (from social causes and immigration) have increased incredibly from what was already the highest of northern EU.
Housing and land is much cheaper too.
It's really not even a comparison.

Sounds good user. The best of two worlds.

I was a smart dude. I avoided that mess altogether, sadly, a lot of my friends did not. They paid for it to, One's been married twice and is on gf # 3 and he's got a kid from wife #1. He's only 34. Another got married, got divorced and has 2 kids. He's 35. Another dude, had a string of girls, different girl every week type guy. Finally found the "one". Married her, Then about this time last yr, they split. He found her in bed with some other dude. Has two kids. He's 30. 4th guy, was kinda smart, waited till late twenties till he finally settled down with this girl. Got home one day after work to find the whole place cleaned out. Nothing left but a note and his computer. He crashed at my place for a while till he got his shit back in order (him and girl were both splitting cost of apt, bills,etc. His paycheck didn't cover it all)

I'm 35, finally getting married for first time later this year. My 20's, pretty much dated and had fun, saved a big chunk of money. Got that money set aside, hidden away. So if we do get a divorce down the road, she can't touch it. (No paper trail,no bank statements). I love the girl, trust her. But you never know what the future will bring.

Is there ever a "good" way yo have a kid and a non cheating good looking wife? Seems like you always have to make some big compromises.

>No paper trail,no bank statements

How do you do that in these "Know Your Customer"-times?

Sometimes you'll get lucky and get a girl who likes you for you, not after your money or don't expect you to work your ass off providing for them while they do jack shit all day.

If this was true, then they would be german, no?

"Online Banking" - Got a primary account for my paycheck and all expenses. Got another "hidden" that for the past decade has gotten funds electronic transferred into it from the primary account. Only thing that you gotta do is sever the "auto electronic funds transfer" cord and viola the "hidden account" is totally on it's own. After a time your primary bank statements will show nothing but reg stuff (depending on how many transfers you do, even one extra little transaction or two would slip thru the cracks anyway). Just remember to put on taxes each year any interest you earn on the account, otherwise you may have a visit from the IRS at some point.

Just when I do my budget each month, the funds that get auto transferred I just mark as some mundane thing. That way no one knows, and I don't end up with a shortfall.