Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses - e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g. photo editing, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs >R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming (dGPU optional) >R5 2400G - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7-8700K - Best for 1080p gaming, but most expensive when factoring in delid, high-end cooler, etc. >R7 2700/X - Best high-end gaming/mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
Motherboards >Only Z300 series boards can utilize fast memory with Intel
RAM >8GB - Enough for most gaming use >16GB - Standard for heavy use >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this much >Current CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal
Graphics cards >GPU prices have gone down 1080p >RX 580 or 1060 6GB are standard 1080p 60fps+ options >1050Ti or RX560 for lower settings 1080p, or older games >GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 if seeking higher fps & you have a CPU + monitor to match 1440p >Vega 56 or Vega 64 /w Freesync; 1070Ti if you already have Gsync >GTX 1080Ti if seeking higher fps & you have a CPU + monitor to match 2160p(4K) >Titan V
Storage >Consider StoreMi >Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard
Monitors >Always consider FreeSync with AMD cards >Lock to 72fps on 144hz non-Gsync monitors with Nvidia cards to prevent tearing on more demanding games >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
I have an i5 4590 and was wondering how i should upgrade my cpu for gaming. Should i go to an i7 4790k, go ryzen 2700x and deal with expensive ddr4 ram, or wait till ryzen 3700 to come out?
Blake Green
Anime is for faggots
Carter Russell
Considering that I no longer do the games thing, how's intel graphics (4600 HD) on anything else but Windows 10?
Cameron Davis
fine for browsing
Joseph Taylor
i just upgraded my 4590 to a ryzen 1800x.
desu idk how you're having issues in games. 1800x only helped me in video rendering and unzipping.
Justin Perez
if your mobo can OC and you already have a good cooler, I'd get the 4790K, OC it and sell the 4590, if not then just get a 4790 and sell the 4590, you should get some perfomance increase in non gayming tasks, and more fps in some cpu limited gaymes
Jason Perez
retrying Want to give my parents a smol all round machine, tired of playing tech support on the phone for them, is there any way to make this cheaper? Would the Pentium meme be better? Open for new case suggestions that have at least one 3.5" bay while keeping this overall style/layout. Optical drive is a must. de.pcpartpicker.com/list/mtfjWD Any input?
Pentium with hyperthreading is comfy. They're probably not going to be doing anything CPU Intensive.
You could save cash with a kaby/coffee lake pentium and a 270gb SSD+HDD
Zachary Harris
Are gpu prices expected to continue falling? I won't need to build a PC until late August, so I'd like to hold out as long as possible if the prices keep on dropping
Jason Moore
what do they need their pc for? can they not operate without cds?
Jonathan Young
Budget: €2500,- preferably less Uses: Gaming(expecting 1440p 144 fps atleast on low settings, 80ish fps on AAA games for next couple years on 1440p high/ultra settings), light VM work to learn networking and AD Monitor: atleast 27 inch 1440p 144hz for competitive games, would prefer an IPS panel but dont know if this is bad, it seems that IPS panels have higher input lag than TN screens, but some researching tells me that the low response times of TN screens are bullshit. help.
my problem is not knowing which GPU+monitor to get.. wait for new generation of nvidia cards or get a 1070 TI now and get an expensive g sync screen or do I get an overpriced vega 56 or even an RX580+less expensive freesync monitor?
Jason Clark
>8400 still not in the OP Whats with and cock sucking these days ?
>Mobo costs nearly double more than cpu >fan for such a weak build Are you sure you know what your doing?
James Carter
I got an athlon x4 860k to sustain me while I was waiting for zen but then DDR4 prices went nuclear should I upgrade now, or persevere with all the lag i'm getting in photoshop, rendering and vidya and wait e v e n m o r e
my budget might be too high, just want the best price for performance without shit getting overly expensive
Luke Watson
Looks great, you could get a modular PSU like a M12II 520 (overkill for the system but more comfortable) and the cheaper NF-R8 redux-1800. I'd recommend the RVZ03B but it might be too gayming looking
Brandon Reed
I don't worry about CPU performace of the Pentium, it's the graphics performance I worry about whihc is basically non existant with the Intel. I don't really know what they are doing with it but they are doing a bit more than just Emails and youtube so I'd like to be on the safe side because should this ever be too slow I'll have to take the blame. They do use lots of DVDs and CDs.
Yeah I hate how expensive mITX boards are, I think the intel ones are a bit cheaper so I'll look into that. The case fan is there simply because the optical drive is right over the CPU fan and I want to get some air into the case. Open to suggestions for improvement, diffcult to find a better case that has similar dimensions.
Matthew Walker
spend it all on speakers desu peripherals are your friend
and getting a 1080ti seems appropriate for your budget. get a gsync ips 144/165hz 25-7".
Easton Diaz
>8400 still not in the OP Why when the 2600 gets better performance and has 6 more threads? >Whats with and cock sucking these days ? Learn english before posting
Pretty good unless you have special requirements for gaymen or highly color sensitive work.
pretty sure that's an ATX PSU so too big for that build but in general getting a modular PSU is a good idea.
Jace Ross
I want to upgrade my gaming PC but am unsure what to get. I have a 1080p Monitor and would like to get 60 fps on high/ultra stettings. Considering the GTX 1070 for now but dont know which cpu to go along with it
Matthew Baker
Why does that graph look like the result of a bottleneck
Can anyone recommend an ATX case with no flashing lights, windows, obnoxious gamer rice, etc.? Ideally it would be a nondescript black box with just a power button, the necessary vents, and some bays.
Charles Wood
>Want to give my parents a smol all round machine What do your parents do, facebook, mails, some old data? Your build is overkill for that, you can save 100€: de.pcpartpicker.com/list/JQvQRJ
Christopher Stewart
cooler master makes some subtle cases like HAF
Josiah Cox
That's because there's almost always a GPU bottleneck at anything less than 1080p.
Jacob Perez
>Needs it's own compatiple Mobo >Needa It's own compatible ram >Better >Same price >Not factoring in meme ram and board
The difference will not be meaningful, if you are considering gaming only. Get either the 4790k and oberclock the hell out of it or get an i7 8700k.
Brandon Baker
Is the extra $70-90 worth getting 4000mhz+ ram instead of 3000mhz+?
And am I crazy for wanting 2 970 pros in raid0? Shit will boot/load everything instantly. Sure I don't need this, as one is fast enough, but two is gonna be a lot faster and it takes like 5 minutes to just set up the raid volume when you first initialize your computer, so why not?
Lastly, are the 8700k and 8086k the same chip but with different clock speeds? If Im overclocking myself, is there any benefit to getting the 8086?
Thanks for the input, that Silverstone Raven case is too gamery though and doesn't have an ODD slot. That pentium build looks nice, I'll consider this. The case is a lot taller though which might not be too nice. I don't know what exactly they do wiht it but I know my father likes to paly around with photoshop and some video editing software in his free time.
Ian Hughes
The 19th letter of the Latin alphabet, representing the voiceless alveolar sibilant.
Landon Long
>all my packages were delivered safely >except the one with the Ryzen 2700X and the 16GB of DDR4-3200 and the SSD and the PSU and the motherboard
>destroying an irreplaceable piece of history for a computer that will be obsolete in a year
Adam Evans
>fucking up a console case to make a shitty basedbuild Why do people do this?
Luis Flores
This is actually pretty embarassing for intel. At least the only noteworthy coou they sell (8700k) is also their best selling.
Ayden Lee
There are millions around the world, go sperg on /vr/.
Eli Wilson
>an irreplaceable piece of history Oh come on. that old piece of plastic has no historic value. It probably already died on his own like a lot of old hardware.
You can find piles of these pieces of shit broken on ebay, go be autistic elsewhere.
Chase Ortiz
>oh no not my childhood consumer toy how could they
Go and dig up the thousands that are in landfill if you care so much.
Logan Price
>play around with photoshop and some video editing software Good you mentioned this. Get 2200G and 8GB RAM instead Pentium and 4GB, no need for high-speed RAM though. Made changes and added wireless mouse/keyboard combo: de.pcpartpicker.com/list/RktyxG
Lincoln Hughes
these are bing bing wahoo opened mouth basedboys you're talking to, so don't be surprised
>Needs it's own compatiple Mobo No it doesn't, as long as it's AM4 it's supported >Needa It's own compatible ram >Needa No it doesn't, you can cheap out and get a B-Die kit later when you can afford one >meme ram Please leave now
i have been removed from gaming for long. if i wanted to run most AAA recent games at high(but not highest) quality settings on a 60 frames per second on a 1080p( is it even supposed to be good? i don't think i ever had more than 720p) how much € am i expected to spend on a GPU?
Logan Long
Explain this Literally a scam enjoy your meme ram. I sell bottled air too I can hook you up with a great deal pm me @fuckyou.com
You could get a 2200G, a 2x4GB 3000+MHz kit, a B350 mobo, a 1TB HDD, a cheap case like a MX330 and if possible a modular PSU like a M12II 520 or a 620 EVO
John Ross
I bought 3200 speed ram and its running according to the bios at 2133. What do?
Wyatt Ross
Unless you link your $300 prebuild no one will be able to tell.
alrighty then, gonna pull the trigger on this in the next days then
but I like my parents?
Tyler Scott
Any video or photo editing?
Gavin James
>Lived in a college house for three years with horrible wiring. My heart would sink if I forgot to switch the PSU on. IKTF
Logan Roberts
If I'm running windows 10 now legit version from the free update, can I replace cpu and mobo then use windows recovery to fresh install windows 10? Or will I need to buy a copy of windows 10?
Adam Evans
Is a overclocked i5 2500k (4+ GHz) still good for modern gaming in 2018?
Cameron Powell
Sure. Ultra is a meme. 60 frames looks great unless your a fucking Melvin.
Owen Williams
Enable XMP
Jace Gutierrez
I missed the smallish part, a B350M and a MG110-W would be better. A pentium might be cheaper for your use
Grayson White
New copy. I think windows keeps track of motherboards.
Jason Nguyen
That sounds scary user, can you do that on any board? I'm using a ASRock - Z370M
Leo Harris
I heard you have to link it to a Microsoft account, and if you replace the mobo, for example, you have to ask their support for a new key. Or something like that, I don't remember.
>excel Depending on what you do that can be quiet taxing, if it's just fucking around then nvm. >300 For that amount it's hard to get a whole system. I'd buy prebuilt/used, maybe even a laptop. If you decide to build your own you are looking exclusively at last gen Pentiums.
>read manual >goto BIOS >enable XMP Wasn't that hard now was it?
Jaxson Rodriguez
2600, 2600X if possible for the better chip and cooler
