/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Learn how to build a PC (You can find more detailed videos on YouTube)
youtube.com/watch?v=9M2-UIwWguw
>How to install Win7 on new CPUs
pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1

Want help?
>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build
>List your uses - e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g. photo editing, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

Overclocking
>Use PBO on Ryzen. Legacy overclocking is defunct on Ryzen 2#00X CPUs. youtube.com/watch?v=FC3fsVk9Sss

CPUs
>R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming (dGPU optional)
>R5 2400G - Consider IF on sale
>R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs
>i7-8700K - Best for 1080p gaming, but most expensive when factoring in delid, high-end cooler, etc.
>R7 2700/X - Best high-end gaming/mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform
>Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT

Motherboards
>Only Z300 series boards can utilize fast memory with Intel

RAM
>8GB - Enough for most gaming use
>16GB - Standard for heavy use
>32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this much
>Current CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal

Graphics cards
>GPU prices have gone down
1080p
>RX 580 or 1060 6GB are standard 1080p 60fps+ options
>1050Ti or RX560 for lower settings 1080p, or older games
>GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 if seeking higher fps & you have a CPU + monitor to match
1440p
>Vega 56 or Vega 64 /w Freesync; 1070Ti if you already have Gsync
>GTX 1080Ti if seeking higher fps & you have a CPU + monitor to match
2160p(4K)
>Titan V

Storage
>Consider StoreMi
>Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD
>2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB
>M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard

Monitors
>Always consider FreeSync with AMD cards
>Lock to 72fps on 144hz non-Gsync monitors with Nvidia cards to prevent tearing on more demanding games
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING

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Other urls found in this thread:

mindfactory.de/product_info.php/16GB-Crucial-Ballistix-Sport-LT-rot-DDR4-2666-DIMM-CL16-Single_1197499.html
mindfactory.de/product_info.php/16GB-G-Skill-RipJaws-V-rot-DDR4-3200-DIMM-CL14-Dual-Kit_1033437.html
uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/cvGj4D/team-dark-pro-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tdpgd416g3200hc14adc01
eteknix.com/thermal-grizzly-thermal-paste-vs-6-major-brands-review/3/
youtube.com/watch?v=f8MDhARk0ec
youtube.com/watch?v=aZkJ_-vfQa8
au.pcpartpicker.com/list/84zwq4
youtube.com/watch?v=S3z3r-DIQAw
au.pcpartpicker.com/product/wX7CmG/gskill-flare-x-series-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c14d-16gfx
pcpartpicker.com/list/ByTDzY
youtube.com/watch?v=AUyF--fJaaM&t=90
pcpartpicker.com/product/jpH48d/gskill-memory-f43200c14d16gvk
youtube.com/watch?v=hS-rYX6GPAA
twitter.com/AnonBabble

First for the 8700K is the only Intel CPU worth getting and that's knowing that they'll kill the socket locking support for the new CPUs in Z370 like they did with Z170 and Z270

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1070 needs to be added to this

8400 is worth it for the price

Second for shills are posting outdated fake screenshots and want you to pay 100 more for the same perfomance

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>8400 is worth it for the price
no

>8400 is worth it for the price
If they can't afford B-Die and the 2600X at least sure

Neck yourself

>100 more for the same perfomance
It's more around $60-80
This being said I wouldn't recommend it unless they couldn't find the 2600 at a decent price where they live

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>it's more around $60-80
Except you are posting in EU time and it costs 120-160€ more here.

This. B-die rams alone are 60€ more on my amazon

What's the best thermal compound for a laptop? Needs to not fall apart at high temps.
Gelid extreme? MX-4? Has anyone tried those IC liquid metal pads?

>120-160€ more here
It should be 56€ for the B-Die kit
mindfactory.de/product_info.php/16GB-Crucial-Ballistix-Sport-LT-rot-DDR4-2666-DIMM-CL16-Single_1197499.html
mindfactory.de/product_info.php/16GB-G-Skill-RipJaws-V-rot-DDR4-3200-DIMM-CL14-Dual-Kit_1033437.html
and 22€ more for the 2600X and the Spire or 38€ for a True Spirit 140. So it's more like 80-95€

it's £80 more in the uk which is about $100

+30 atleast for the mobo

£70 with this one
uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/cvGj4D/team-dark-pro-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tdpgd416g3200hc14adc01
You can still overclock non B-Die kits, just less depending on the frequency, the 3400 kit used in these tests uses hynix

>What's the best thermal compound for a laptop? Needs to not fall apart at high temps.
They're all basically the same really. difference of 5C between them all. they all do a good job. Maybe you could try that metal paste since it's a laptop.
also niggers answer

>+30 atleast for the mobo
>ignoring B350 motherboards

>hot 'n ready
slick.
Also when are you guys gonna better represent intel? atleast give people the option to make a bad decision if they wish to support jews

i can literally get a flight to and back from amsterdam + a tenner to spend on weed for that money. no thanks.

If you want almost guaranteed 4.2 oc you have to go with a 80-90€ b350. If you want to go cheaper you are playing lottery.

I'd recommend the NT-H1
eteknix.com/thermal-grizzly-thermal-paste-vs-6-major-brands-review/3/

i missed you. ....

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>all the cancerous old games at the bottom are for intel.
makes sense

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>If you want to go cheaper you are playing lottery.
Source? From what I can tell the board used here is the same as the PC Mate or Tomahawk with different heatsinks so the power delivery shouldn't be different
youtube.com/watch?v=f8MDhARk0ec

>is the same as the PC mate or Tomahawk
But it's not, you can't know if they will work the same if you don't test them. The one is more expensive for a reason. And still pc mate costs 84€

>Is Ryzen ‘More Future Proof’ For Gamers?
It's like either Steve or Tim from HWUB actively views these threads.
youtube.com/watch?v=aZkJ_-vfQa8

have 2 cases, phanteks enthoo evolv matx and a fractal design nano s. do i sell my evolv (have mini itx build) or keep it and re use the nano s for something else? nano s is worth $20 so no point selling it and the evolv is probably worth $100 ish

pretty much every pc forum on the net is debating this. this discussion isn't exclusive to Jow Forums

delid

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No one cars about krautland, intelcuck

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Why are you still awake? It's almost 5 am in US. Oh yeah I forgot you have no job

Need a rate

au.pcpartpicker.com/list/84zwq4

1440p and 144hz monitor listed as other and parts marked as purchased are being brought over from an old system I had.

Pay $100 more for a b-die or it's gonna be shit.

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>being this mad that people buy AMD

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>1080 ti
>144hz when 1070ti can do that job
that's double the price for the same performance at that resolution so 2/10

>pretty much every pc forum on the net is debating this. this discussion isn't exclusive to Jow Forums
so in other words we'll never know

But b-die unironically costs $100 more in australia what do you want me to tell him? Or we should not tell him it will be shit without b-die?

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>R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming
I use G4560 (which is significantly weaker than R3 2200) with 1050 Ti and most of the modern games run on high/medium

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>t. la luz extinguido

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>most of the modern games run on high/medium
what about muh 120fps bru?

>missed two separate promotions for X470 MSI boards
>one where you get a headset worth 64€ for free and another one where you get a $25 Steam Gift Card for purchasing a X470 board

holy fucking shit i'm so pissed. how am i supposed to pay 130€ for a board now when i know i could have saved at least 50€ last month?

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>la luz extinguido
youtube.com/watch?v=S3z3r-DIQAw

>this level of triggered kraut intel shills
you nigs are REAL sensitive

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Maybe if you drop the bejesus out of the settings.

It looks great, you could get a MX500 500GB (slower but cheaper, if it's just for games you won't notice much difference) and a B-Die kit like this one to overclock the memory more than on the kit you chose
au.pcpartpicker.com/product/wX7CmG/gskill-flare-x-series-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c14d-16gfx

As I've explained above B-Die isn't necessary to overclock the memory, just optimal. The 3400 kit used here isn't B-Die

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I'm about to change power supply.
This is going to be a veeery long day, isn't it?

>This is going to be a veeery long day, isn't it?
why? it's literally like plugging in a playstation

Originally I wanted to keep this build to $1500 or lower but being a powerhouse. Then I started wanting nice things like the monitor and now here I am trying to stay below 2000. Did I at least do decently in picking things out?

pcpartpicker.com/list/ByTDzY

Shitpostanon, remember the fucking cables.

He uses a 3600mhz and runs it at 3400 with lower timings which is the same as trying to run 3200 b-die at 3400. Stop lying.

get a hard drive and optical redditor

Need a cheap-ass M.2 SSD for my laptop. Thinking about 240GB ones. There are many similar ones tho, what should I look into?
WD Green 240GB is only 50 euros, would I notice a difference between some Crucial MX500 250GB (it's 15 euros more) or any other one?

Based playstation user

I5 8400
any B series full size mobo
16 gb patriot viber DDR4 2600 MHz
I'm considering getting these parts to upgrade my CPU.
Currently have a GTX 960 and an AMD Athlon x4 860k.

>i5
shit tier, straight from housefiredozer to housefire lake

Good choice

Poorfag here. Can someone recommend a build around $500. I just can't find decent builds around this category.
(My NEET ass just don't want to go out and earn money.)

>He uses a 3600mhz and runs it at 3400 with lower timings which is the same as trying to run 3200 b-die at 3400.
>Stop lying
>runs it at 3400 with lower timings which is the same as trying to run 3200 b-die at 3400
No it isn't, you don't know what you're talking about
>Using aggressively tuned G.Skill Sniper X DDR4 3400 with tightned subtimings
youtube.com/watch?v=AUyF--fJaaM&t=90
It's a 3400 Hynix kit overclocked

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3400 cl16 is the same as 3200 cl14 dumbass

This might be a retarded question but I want to make absolutely sure the answer is correct. Can I use my windows 10 license on my new PC assuming I format my old PC? Every piece of hardware is different.

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No it isn't, the kit is still Hynix and the shit you said here makes no sense

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>triggered lard orge throwing a hissfit over consumer electronics

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Not him but what is this chart about?

Yes you are right it's 3400 not 3600 but they overclock the same, jesus christ.

would it be possible to get let's say cl 7~10 and like 4200~5000mhz or so?

What's the rest of the build like?

>remember the fucking cables.
oh my. no harder then plugging in my ps3 component

I think w10 license is linked to your mobo so i dont think so.

>cheaps out on an ssd
>buys a thousand redundant fans.
Bru!
Also remember pixels don't matter as much as picture quality.
It's fine to stick with that res size monitor but make sure your getting something good atleast.

Looks great, I'd consider a X470 Gaming Plus (Gigabyte BIOS is still pretty bad), a case with more airflow like a Focus G, Meshify C or a Enthoo Pro M, I've heard that GPUs from Gigabyte might be too noisy so maybe consider a EVGA 1080 and this B-Die kit
pcpartpicker.com/product/jpH48d/gskill-memory-f43200c14d16gvk
You could look into cheaper Cougar or Noctua case fans

True latency chart about DDR4, lower ns is better

Thanks and what are the black and blue marked combinations?

They're the two kits (3200 CL14 vs. 3400 CL16) being compared.

>would it be possible to get let's say cl 7~10 and like 4200~5000mhz or so?
sure. for the low low price of just $1000

I know, what I meant is there something special about those combinations like 4600 CL19 or 4000 CL17?

>youtube.com/watch?v=hS-rYX6GPAA
this guy might help.
>My NEET ass just don't want to go out and earn money
if your parents are too poor to get you a $1000 rig you should really consider removing yourself from neet'dom. It's not fair to leech off of the poor

>Can I use my windows 10 license on my new PC assuming I format my old PC
that link to your microsoft account is bullshit. i had to get kmspico

Why is windows 10 still so expensive? Fucking $120 is fucking rediculous for PC building. It's like they want people to steal their shit.

Buy an OEM licence from ebay etc for 5-20 bucks.

activate it with the links on the OP, senpai, or get a fake key that people sell on ebay, they are fine and you iwll activate it, but these are bought with fake cards or stolen cards so microshit doesn't get money

You can literally activate it for free. Do you buy movies too?

I think I'm going to go this route for right now. It just sucks that I have a legit full copy of windows 7 that I cant fucking use, a full copy of office 2007 that's no longer valid etc. I really don't want to give Microsoft my money anymore because of the business choices they've made.

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There's a good deal on a used gpu with warranty but the guy only has the card without original box and accessories. Do you need only the card for warranty replacement in europe?

T-t-they will release a B450 board with good VRM, r-right user-kun?

youtube.com/watch?v=aZkJ_-vfQa8

ok when intel does it

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>y-you need ATLEAST 12 threads to run games guys

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bump? :)

>similar framerates at lower frequency for amd
>implying coffee lake parts are actually available to buy

Nice ban evasion

Wow. So now the 8400 is worse than a 1600?

>Paying $130 more for literally negligible performance gains.

>i5 8400
Already outdated. Get ryzen

Now price and frequency matters huh? When we compare 8400 with 2600x its not? Lel