/hsg/ - Home Server General

Old OP is back edition.

--> Quick Questions Quick Replies Why would I want a NAS/Homeserver?
If you ask why then you don't need it.

>I want a NAS/HTPC/Plex what should I get?
RPi3 or Odroid XU4/HC1. Odroid upper models has USB 3 and USB bus separated from the Ethernet one.

>B-But muh ARM
Then check the onboard x86 like J4105B-ITX, J4205B-ITX or J4205-ITX. All of them have SATA and USB 3.

>What's the best [software] for doing [ask]?
Specify you question and elaborate. If you want help put something from your side.

>Which disk is better for my homeserver?
The general opinion minus some details are that WD Greens are enough if you deactivate parkdrive, and WD Red are Green overpriced. Also Toshiba and HGST are pretty good.

---> FAQ & Tips News phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ARM-RISC-V-Facts
>theregister.co.uk/2018/07/10/arm_riscv_website/

Gentoo gets compromised although they're working on it
>wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Infrastructure/Incident_Reports/2018-06-28_Github

Crux now on Odroid XU4
>crux-armdotnu/SupportedDevices/Odroid-xu4

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digicert.com/ssl-certificate-purchase-validation.htm
ssl.comodo.com/ev-ssl-certificates.php
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You guys buy ssl certs?

is making a server out of an old laptop feasible? is it better than using a rpi?
use case would be a seedbox, an irc bouncer, maybe plex.

I use LetsEncrypt

I wanted to get 5+ Gb/s NICs for home network but got impatient while doing research and got HBAs (QLE2462) instead. They transmit data between two points so that should be enough to function as a NIC. Any idea how to do that? After doing some research the only idea I have is writing my own driver but even then I'm not sure if that's possible without writing own firmware which I definitely won't do.

Good to see you back.

So, I usually post this for the sake of bumping, but I didn't need to so I'm posting now.

>Added news section, will try to add at least one to the top of 5 each thread I'm able to make

Debatable
>ALL pasta so we can improve it
>Discord/IRC. I'm not contrary to neither of those, but being the topic the thread is about, I don't think we need it. Well maybe IRC but up to you, people.

yes to irc

Check the cyberpunk thread, their pasta is art.

I know, I lurk there daily. Although that pasta is something apart since there's a person working on it daily to make a really nice FAQ. Also if I may be picky, I will ditch the symbols on the lanes, but otherwise is really good.

>is making a server out of an old laptop feasible? is it better than using a rpi?
Yes and Yes. rPi is a shit 'server'
Laptops have more ports, and a built in 'UPS'
>use case would be a seedbox, an irc bouncer, maybe plex.
Would work great for all of those. Plex would be the most CPU intensive, so your mileage may vary there.

sslforfree is the easiest frontend for letsencrypt. no need for bullshit scripts, just paste your CSR in right on the website, and place a file on your http server to verify, or make a TXT record on your domain. I renew my certs in less than 2 minutes.

Thanks. Though it is not a daily job.

In any case we now have branched out with one /cyb/ FAQ, one /sec/ FAQ, and one /cyb/ Playlist organised like the FAQs plus liaising on the Radio FAQ.

The FAQs are rather modular so feel free to rip out the guts and fill the framework with your own contents. The tool used is Seamonkey and some hand editing. No external connections to reveal privacy data (CSS, fonts, webstats etc.), no JavaScript, just a clean self contained HTML file.

>bullshit scripts
Dude certbot renew && nginx -s reload is literally a 4 second operation. Do you have anal deficiencies?

>a 4 second operation.
A 2 minutes operation once to create a cronjob.

Glad to see you around here. May I suggest adding this general to the pasta only? Something like "Intersted on hosting your own stuff? Check [catalog link]" Just a cheerful question, have not strong points to back it up.

If that.

>4Gbit fiber channel
nigger wtf are you doing when you can get a mellanox 10Gbit card for peanuts

This

Check the passmark for your laptop's cpu:
>Very roughly speaking, for a single full-transcode of a video, the following PassMark score requirements are a good guideline for the following average source file:
>4K (60Mbps, HEVC) file: 4000 PassMark score (being transcoded to 10Mbps 1080p)
>1080p (10Mbps, H.264) file: 2000 PassMark score
>720p (4Mbps, H.264) file: 1500 PassMark score
sauce: support.plex.tv/articles/201774043-what-kind-of-cpu-do-i-need-for-my-server/

kill yourself and your retarded suggestions of non-servers

You might as well used self signed

There is IPoFC but it is retarded, just buy 10GbE NICs.

>You might as well used self signed
Lol yeah great idea, let's have my customers see this shit.

If you're on here, Ted, you should kill yourself.

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You dont understand the purpose of what a CA is do you?

>customers
nigger you dont have any customers if you cant afford like $10 a year certificate from a CA

My registrar wants $80
someone's kiking me

>You dont understand the purpose of what a CA is do you?
Yeah I do, which is why I use LetsEncrypt, because their root CA comes preinstalled in today's operating systems.

>nigger you dont have any customers if you cant afford like $10 a year certificate from a CA
Why give some (((CA))) ten bux when I could just get a certificate for free from LE?

Hell you know what, I think I'll set up an annual ten bux donation to LE just because fuck you and fuck your kike overlords.

Actually it's hard to find 5+ GbE NICs here and shipping would cost quite a bit. These HBAs were dirt cheap so if I could make use of them I would get great value. On the other hand I don't lose much if I abandon them.

>heir root CA comes preinstalled in today's operating systems.
Thats not the purpose of a CA you retard

>Why give some (((CA))) ten bux when I could just get a certificate for free from LE?
It doesnt matter because you have no purpose to even use one beyond self signed. you have no customers, you're a basement dwelling neet with a 15 year old desktop larping it is a webserver.

they are

where is here

Hi /hsg/, I'm dabbling around with my Raspberry Pi, running Raspbian.

I'm trying to work out how I can set up a series of intranet pages for myself such as:
wiki.raspberry.com

I've managed to get things like this working:
192.168.0.2/index.html

My main aim is to try and get phabricator working, but so far I hit this when trying to access it:
Request parameter '__path__' is not set. Your rewrite rules are not configured correctly.

Googling, I haven't found a solution that works for me though.

Poland.

Ty małpo

x-kom.pl/p/386331-karta-sieciowa-edimax-en-9320tx-e-100-1000mbit-10gbit-low-profle.html

ebay.pl/itm/Mellanox-ConnectX-2-VPI-Dual-Port-Networking-Card-MHRH2A-XSR/173391411324?hash=item285eeef87c:g:qR8AAOSwySlaC3Dh

Dual 40GbE for $10 with $5 shipping

$25 shipping

A chuj w hurtowni mam to gówno nawet 2 razy taniej

To już nie takie grosze, ja biedny student.

How is it my fault if my hardrive dies? How was I supposed to know? If I had known it was going to drive I would have backed it up right before and bought a new drive, I thought technology was supposed to be smart and advanced?

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thanks!
it's got an Intel Celeron M 440 de 1.86 Ghz 1Mb L2 Cache 2gb RAM
hope it's not too shitty for my needs

> If I had known it was going to drive I would have backed it up right before and bought a new drive
You're ALWAYS suppose to have backups. Devices can and WILL fail with no warning, and you can't ever 100% trust fault detection since there can always be fault with the detection it self.
You should always buy drives in pairs and backup to the second drive at least monthly (I do it weekly), even if it's just for your desktop.

Let it be a life lesson.

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>going to get a SAS 9211 card
>hear it runs hot
>no idea if there's a non-ghetto way to slap a fan on it
there's gotta be something that'll just drop into the mount points for the heatsink

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It needs 200LFM of airflow. With that said you could just nigger rig a 40mm fan on to the heat sink with some self tapping screws most likely

They're also cheap enough you could just not care and replace it when it dies

>$90
>cheap
I guess to someone it's `cheap`

t. minimum wage madman trying to run a big NAS server

You can get newer 9207s (same thing basically but PCIE 3.0) for under $50 and then just flash them with the IR firmware to get the RAID0/1 capabilities. There are also the countless rebrands of those cards.

all I need is a HBA, I'm using freenas

Lets encrypt is trusted by everything. Not using it doesn't protect you from anything since if it really was shit someone could mint a cert on your domain with it and mitm you.

But you can't do that, and it's not shit. It's really nice actually.

How big a NAS are we talking? I'm running a six disk one just off motherboard SATA headers.

Then just leave it with the IT firmware. Anyways SAS2 cards arent particularly expensive.

>i dont understand what controller queue depth is or why it matters

I'm running 6 already off my motherboard, but I need at least 8 more disks because of redundancy

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>i dont understand what controller queue depth is or why it matters
You're very correct. Do you reckon it'll cause me any issues? 24TB array with 3-10 users.

Probably not as you're probably just using it as a file server rather than for HCI.

Depending on what pseudo raid level you're doing you might just want to consider a 2nd HBA so you dont suffer downtime if one shits itself

>Depending on what pseudo raid level you're doing you might just want to consider a 2nd HBA so you dont suffer downtime if one shits itself
yeah that's a smart idea
it's running on a supermicro x8dai so I've got plenty of slots

>Probably not
Thank you.

Why are these so cheap and plentiful?

What switch are you using with these? What are they compatible with?

pls dont say your use them P2P

>Why are these so cheap and plentiful?
Because it is ~20 year old tech and just about no one uses fiber channel anymore and have moved to iSCSI after things like DCB/iWARP/RoCE became commonplace.

Hmm, still have a lot of FC stuff on our SANs at work.. Most of it does look pretty old though.

Heard murmers of them moving to fcoe after that, what so bad about isci, or it it just the sunk cost? or is there really a performance difference these days?

>what so bad about isci
It wasnt iSCSI so much but Ethernet. It isnt reliable and didnt provide RDMA capabilities. DCB was created to address the former problem RoCE/iWARP to address the later problem.

what are you guys self hosting?

I currently have Nextcloud, ZNC, Git with cgit and planning to start hosting email with iRedMail as well as a ttrss instance.

nginx, SSH, Emby... That's about it so far. Having trouble with MySQL currently, and once I've dealt with that I'll move on to a mailserver.

Tfw fighting ISP for my gigabit fiber install for over 2 months and it's finally gonna be finished tonight and mommy is bringing my r710 over (she's scared to carry it because it's like 30+ kg but I'm excited and her old knees will just have to bare the strain)

I can add a link, sure. And /cyb/ has an interest in servers though the focus is more on high level /sec/. Also the Outerheaven user is back which also puts this topic to the top of the list. In my case I have an old PA-RISC machine, too old for mandatory backdoors. Speed isn't important to me; reliability is.

What I am missing is content/knowledge/information management systems on servers. Back in the day when i 1 GB was huge you could have an overview of everything. With multi TB data I have difficulties locating everything.

There is a lot of talk about knowledge management but very little actual working stuff. And I need that. I might end up making it but that will be a lot of work.

I have a LSI 9211-8i too. Is there a way to check the temps on these? Ipmi doesnt seem to report anything. Just shows my CPU/ram and HDD temps

Help your mom u faggot

What cron jobs do you have setup for your server?

>>heir root CA comes preinstalled in today's operating systems.
>Thats not the purpose of a CA you retard
What else is the purpose? Getting pic related? Your 10$ Comodo cert is the same shit as letsencrypt.

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The purpose of a CA you retard is attestation of identity, not because it doesnt give a warning in a web browser. Jesus fucking christ you're retarded. All LetsEncrypt does to verify that you own a domain is they have you create a DNS record which does absolutely nothing.

The purpose of SSL/TLS is to prevent MITM attacks, and if a actor can MITM your site, they can MITM between you and LetsEncrypt to fool them in to thinking the middle man is you.

Do you see now how fucking retarded you are, and how LetsEncrypt does nothing to further the intended goals of SSL/TLS

>guys freenas needs a fuck ton of ram
>as much as you can cram in it!
>mfw never use more than 8gb

I fell for the ram meme

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>All LetsEncrypt does to verify that you own a domain is they have you create a DNS record which does absolutely nothing.
Thats what your shitty 10$ also does. And it doesn't matter which CA you use anyway. Every CA in the trust store can crate a valid cert for every domain.

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try enabling dedupe and see what happens

>Thats what your shitty 10$ also does
Its not you retard, for example:

digicert.com/ssl-certificate-purchase-validation.htm
>2. You must show that the company you are registering is a legally and lawfully-formed organization.
>Submitting documents to us for this requirement will help us validate your organization. We will contact the registering authority (RA) shown on the document to confirm the details of the document before we proceed.
>If the document that you provide does not list the current address for your organization, you must also provide a recent utility bill or bank statement addressed to your company at the current address.

And because you were too retarded to read the rest of Comdo's webpage, pic related and ssl.comodo.com/ev-ssl-certificates.php

Now stay retarded you dont understand how PKI works and why LetsEncrypt is fundamentally retarded

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Show me an EV cert for 10$.

Why the fuck are you even in this thread if you can only afford $10 for a certificate. Oh thats right, you're one of the retards who thinks that a $30 RasPi is a server

>pay 10$ to get exactly the same as a free letsencrypt cert
>calling others retarded
Show me a CA who does EV for 10$ or fuck off.

I never claimed shit about EVs being $10. You were a retard who didnt understand the purpose of a CA. And are now autistically trying to engage in damage control after getting blown the fuck out.

I looked up manula for this card, is this IB with IPoIB or genuine ethernet?

I want a SFF-build for:
1) NFS
2) Crypto nodes

So, basically, a cloud which also does some shit.

I tried to select the cheapest shit, yet it came up to 800+ dollaridos
pcpartpicker.com/list/gdvX29

What can I alter? I want 4 HDDs for a RAID-1 of 2 logical volumes + 1 SSD to run OS on it.

It does InfiniBand, Ethernet, FCoIB and FCoE all with a single card

Buy a used Xeon E5-2600 series server

Emby vs Plex?

Mate you're the one pulling damage control. It's embarrassing.

Emby, by a hair.

>I wish i understood what the purpose of CAs was beyond a little green lock icon

Show us that lovely $10 extended validation cert my dude.

>damage control intensifies

>insinuating

I don't know out of Europe, but 4TB HDDs are cheap right now. Maybe is time to expand that storage, user.

I am sorry if this belongs on /sqt/.

I've recently dipped my toes into learning networking so I installed Pfsense on an Old Hp Box w/ extra 2 port Gb NIC.
But I'm trying to troubleshoot why the Link to my PC and Pfsense is stuck on only 100Mbs.
The Cat 6 cable seems to be working but I don't have a tester or anything, Both NIC's does blink Orange for Gigabit when just test w/o WAN connection.
Pic related to Pfsense NIC

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>Really enjoy my synology
>It's full and need a new one plus a backup unit
>lazy

Is Windows Server my best OS choice? I like Xpenology but I worry about long term stability after I've had 2 installs just fail over time. I'm a gui baby.

What's the choice case for 8-12 drives? The Rosewill?

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>Is Windows Server my best OS choice?
FreeNAS.

>What's the choice case for 8-12 drives? The Rosewill?
Can't go too far wrong, make sure you plan the SATA cable lengths and you'll be alright.

Yeah, I learned this the hard way once when a drive with the final version of my master's thesis died a few weeks before it was due to be turned in to the university.

I now have everything on my server on a ZFS mirror. It is backed up to another mirror and an external hard drive every night.

The backups are bootable, too, which should make it easy if something bad ever happens.

ZFS snapshots make it easy to recover from something dumb I will probably do.

>How was I supposed to know?
Because you monitor the SMART parameters made for this very purpose.

Anyone else in the 50+TB club and just feel anxiety knowing that all this shit could either be gone or wasted so much money on drives?

Getting past 50TB is sort of like masturbating to horse porn. You know you've got a problem, you know your money was better spent, but you've come this far, and god damnit if "farms near me" isn't in your google history.

Oh user, you made my day. And you are correct.

Damn right I am. Save some horse-ass for me, 'cause I'll get there one day.

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rPi is a shit server unless you are aiming at low expenses in energy- Also there are other SBC's better than rPis.

salty

SSH, comes with SFTP and SSHFS as a file server.
irssi, for IRC relay.
Tor relay, but not an exit node just for accessing from my own network.
Transmission, torrents made easy.

Right now I am resetting my server to make some tweaks and backups and testing a new distro (CRUX). Is an Odroid C2.

What do you use your home server for, Jow Forums?

Keeps the underside of my cat warm.

50TB usable or raw?

Just storage.Since I have a 24 cores @ 2.5ghz, I might also using it for handling all archiving/de-compression and video encoding, and any other programs that heavily benefit from having multiple threads.

Damn dude where do you get the money for that though

None, torrents are the future.

50tb usable using raid6.

VM's, ad blocking, NVR, backup, media streams, some projects stuff like trying monitor solutions or a server application for funzies.

I doubt it's even more than $2k. I bought my used 4U Supermicro X8DTL for around $484. It came with the 48GB ECC ram + Dual xeons. I replaced the SAS1 backplane with SAS2 for around $200. The LSI 9211 only cost $100. 16GB SATA dom for boot was about $40. That's about $800 for the server.

Then all my HDD's I randomly bought over the years. I have 15x 3TB's currently(45TB) and I have another 3x 3TB's arriving tomorrow, which would bring my raw storage to 54TB, and 27TB usable since it's mirror vdev. Most of the 3TB HDD's were only around $55~70, so that's about $1k total spent on HDD's.

$1,800 total. That's around how much I spent on my desktop. I don't consider that to be high end at all. I don't have any kids/wife/debt/ to spend my money on either.

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