Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses - e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g. photo editing, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs >R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming (dGPU optional) >R5 2400G - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7-8700K - Best for 1080p gaming, but most expensive when factoring in delid, high-end cooler, etc. >R7 2700/X - Best high-end gaming/mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
Motherboards >Only Z300 series boards can utilize fast memory with Intel
RAM >8GB - Enough for most gaming use >16GB - Standard for heavy use >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this much >Current CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal
Graphics cards >GPU prices have gone down 1080p >RX 580 or 1060 6GB are standard 1080p 60fps+ options >1050Ti or RX560 for lower settings 1080p, or older games >GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 if seeking higher fps & you have a CPU + monitor to match 1440p >Vega 56 or Vega 64 /w Freesync; 1070Ti if you already have Gsync >GTX 1080Ti if seeking higher fps & you have a CPU + monitor to match 2160p(4K) >Titan V
Storage >Consider StoreMi >Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard
Monitors >Always consider FreeSync with AMD cards >Lock to 72fps on 144hz non-Gsync monitors with Nvidia cards to prevent tearing on more demanding games >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
Looks like fun, how much does a thing like that cost and what does it do?
Samuel Anderson
>what does it do? Server things
Kevin Bennett
I mean what goes under those heatsyncs. I'm guessing this is for LGA1366. I've heard about people picking up old server hardware when the giant datacenters dump it in favor of more power-efficient stuff, but I don't really know anything about it. How powerful is it going to be, how much is it going to cost you, etc.? Why are you doing this?
cheapest as in no effort attached best performance for the price? probably an 8400 and gtx 1060. though that's strictly for ps3 emulation. for all round gaming and other stuff a 2600 would probably be better but cost $60-80 more
Carter Cox
If you are willing to be a bit crazy, and run with pre-release silicon, they are selling a minimal system for 1600 USD secure.raptorcs.com/content/TLSDS1/intro.html * case * single socket mainboard * 8GB DDR4 ECC * 128GB NVMe * DD2.1 stepping 4-core POWER9 Sforza
Matthew Johnson
Since it's built to be a two socket system though, you only get 2 of the PCIe 4.0 slots, a x16 and a x8
Let me know if you find out. There's always a bunch of debate about that and you'd think there'd be more definitive answers. I'd assume something like an 8400+1060 is the best for the money for that, though. PS3 is 6 cores, after all.
Nolan Morgan
As cheap as the 2400G or 2200G depending on the game, Persona 5 might run better with the 60FPS patch youtube.com/watch?v=beAkUV5crwI
Jack Torres
Apparently the TenFourFox guy was testing PPC G4 emulation on it to run OS-X, since there were problems getting it to virtualise properly.
His OS-X theme on Linux is kind of cringe-y though...
Caleb Hughes
Is there any reason not to go with an 8600k for a new build? It seems to beat the 2600x in pretty much every way and the 2700x in everything that doesn't use a shitload of cores.
Henry Morris
Look at the worst examples of 0.1% minimums for each CPU, not the averages of both. The 2600X is more of a consistently good performer. On the other hand, you have the 8600k where it sometimes performs pretty shit for the cost. And you have to take into account that benchmarks are run with nothing at all running in the background. What do you think will happen when you're at 100% CPU load on all 6 cores and something else in the background needs CPU resources? And you have to further take into account that most game benchmarks are GRAPHICS BENCHMARKS and don't have AI, gameplay, etc running. They aren't meant to be used as CPU benchmarks nor represent how a CPU will run on the game. BF1 is a huge example of this, where the benchmark that tech illiterate youtubers run is much, much, much lower load than 64 player multiplayer.
If not the 2600X, then you should consider just getting the locked 8700. It winds up costing around the same as what a 8600k+$180 motherboard+$60+ cooler costs for the 8700 with a $35 cooler like the H7 and just a bit cheaper Z370 board that only needs to support fast RAM and not overclocking such a power hungry CPU. Or simply go cheaper and get the 8400. 8600k is not worth buying under any circumstance.
What if the 8600k is on sale? Frys has an 8600k+NZXT mobo combo for $429 right now, and that brings the cost about in line with an 8400k. I also already have a good cooler that I can reuse with an Intel setup, while I'd have to buy a new one for anything AMD.
I guess the locked 8700 could be an option, though. That only works out to an extra $50 or so.
Logan King
>8400k
Carter Cooper
Idk what board you're referencing or if it's VRMs and BIOS are up to the task of overclocking. The fact is that most Z370 boards are suitable for overclocking a 6 core, and are made for the 8350k only. It's really a scam that they sell these 8600k bundles with shit boards under the assumption people won't overclock (because Intel says not to!). And if you're not overclocking, why are you getting the k CPU?
My recommendation would be the 2600X, anyway. You won't notice the 15 fps lower averages. You will notice that it's consistently smooth in anything. Plus you have the upgrade path to the 3700X or 4700X on 7nm, while with Intel you have a dead socket and even if it wasn't, their 10nm is a travesty.
>tfw buying a new semi high end surge protector because I'll be damned if I let my current 15 year old surge protector protect my new computer.
Jeremiah Bell
Fuck, it is indeed a Z370 mobo. I guess you need X299 for decent overclocking, then? I'd rather not lose overclocking potential, since my usual strategy is to keep things stock for the first year or two and then ramp up as new programs and games need the power, but maybe going with an 8700 would be enough to keep me up to speed for the four years or so I'll keep the setup.
I really am tempted by AMD, but I'm just kind of terrified of them. I've seen so many people talk about issues getting them working, and I know that a lot of programs and especially games are built for Intel and might not work great on AMD. Why 2600X and not 2700X? Just cost?
Leo Perez
>Why 2600X and not 2700X? Just cost? because very few games can utilize more than 6 cores and 12 threads. Nothing wrong with the 2700X though. Hell. I bought one.
Brayden Stewart
Who else waiting for Zen2 and Navi? Zen2 should be dank and hopefully Navi at least forces Nvidia to keep the prices of their cards in check.
Logan Torres
>Fuck, it is indeed a Z370 mobo. I guess you need X299 for decent overclocking, then? No... it's that all Z370 boards aren't created equal. Most of them, the cheaper ones, are only really made for overclocking an 8350k (4 core) on them, not an 8600k or 8700k. Why are you even considering a "k" CPU if you don't know anything about overclocking? ???
A lot of those 8600k+mobo or 8700k+mobo combos are basically scams since they're giving you a motherboard that's not actually good enough to OC the CPU on them, yet advertising them together.
>Why 2600X and not 2700X? Just cost? May as well just save the money and upgrade to the 3700X or 4700X later if you aren't doing anything that uses 8 cores now.
Xavier Roberts
I need a good affordable 1080p monitor with Gsync, high refresh rate and low latency. Or whatever you guys can recommend to pair with a GTX1070
What should I look at? Also curved monitors look interesting are they worth it?
Landon Hill
i have a samsung c24fg73 1080p 144hz curved 1ms VA monitor with a 1070 and it's brilliant. you honestly don't need gsync if you have a monitor which has a really good strobing backlight low blur mode pic related, top is if you're using gsync/freesync and bottom is if you use the low blur mode (all monitors differ with the quality and brightness of the low blur mode, if they even have one fyi)
How do you know which monitors have low blur? I currently have a shitty 60hz monitor that blurs and tears so bad which is why g sync seems attractive.
Austin Peterson
4K at 60fps maybe. Which will look absolutely horrible
David Fisher
Fuck off.
Isaac Johnson
Found the poorfag with no argument.
Caleb Morgan
kys
Logan Bell
Awesome screenshot summary of 10 nm
I just hope that Navi will ship with proper AMDGPU driver support already in-kernel.
David Reyes
Where can i get cheap dvi dual link cable? Too many fakes on amazon don't know which to get.
Ian Diaz
>How do you know which monitors have low blur? honestly, there isn't a single source which will tell you if a monitor has/doesn't have low blur. however sites like tftcentral and pcmonitors exist which give really in depth reviews for monitors and they usually mention if a monitor has low blur modes and overdrive, and they test them with that ufo test to see any potential blurring or smearing when in motion. just make a list of maybe 4-5 monitors which really suit your needs and search those two websites for reviews of those monitors and see which one sounds the best to you or see which one they say is the best.
i would advise against VA monitors unless they're proven to have a good (and non shit brightness dimming) low blur mode such as my monitor as VA panels are a blurry and smeary mess without them. if you do find one with a good low blur mode then VA panels have the best contrast ratios and near IPS matching color accuracy.
Joshua Baker
Sounds like Intel needs to buy a company if they want to survive the next generation.
Oh, gotcha. The NZXT boards seem to have been pretty well-received by the usual review sites, and they were relatively happy with its overclocking performance, so maybe it's alright after all. You've got me pretty well convinced to look at other CPUs, though.
>Why are you even considering a "k" CPU if you don't know anything about overclocking? It's not so much that as that I simply haven't been following things all that closely in the last few years, since I wasn't in the market for a new system. I'm currently typing this on an OC'd 4690k system and I've had quite a few before it (all the way back to an overclocked PIII in middle school), but it's gotten pretty hard these days to stay on top of things if you're not following them all the time, and it's surprisingly difficult to find concise and straightforward info without just asking somebody who knows better. (Other than just going to Logical Increments, but they're not quite as useful given that my budget is somewhat flexible and that I'm carrying a bunch of stuff over from my current machine.)
Brayden Smith
So I've got about 700€, and I'm looking for the best gaming PC for that price. I already have a 120GB SSD a 500GB HDD, and a used 500W PSU (which I know is shit, but spare parts). I want to play Rust mainly and I don't expect the best graphics, just enough to reach 60fps on 1080p, even on low. What's your recommendation?
My Titan V gets bottlenecked (100% usage and power consumption) at 90~120FPS on multiple AAA games with 1440p Ultra. 2160p is twice the pixels, you do the math
Liam Moore
Still haven't gotten Persona 5 to work in the emulator yet?
Kevin Martinez
>I've seen so many people talk about issues getting them working, Is there issues if you have an x470 mobo and a 2700x? I bought a x470 pro and from what I understand all x470 mobo's have working bios for ryzen 2 chips but I could be misinformed. I haven't built the PC yet and I'm waiting on my GPU.
Ryan Peterson
I unironically use an i3 610) for lag free VR gaming, it has served me unexpectedly well
Isaiah Walker
You could spend less money to work less and be able to play more games.
Anthony White
Where can I learn more about hardware not the components and "sockets and fans" but intermediate and advanced?
what's the best way to get a new copy of windows that doesn't require me to fork over massive amounts of shekels
Logan Murphy
pirate
Dylan Perry
I am genuinely retarded when it comes to pirating, what are some decent cracks/trackers
Carter Watson
Get it from Microsoft and activate it with MSToolkit
Juan Morris
>Is there issues if you have an x470 mobo and a 2700x? Not that I know of >all x470 mobo's have working bios for ryzen 2 chips You're right
Jose Watson
i'm gonna buy a 8600k and you ain't gonna stop me
Andrew Richardson
Brainlet here I'm looking at building a computer to last me 4 years maybe 5. Looking at the below, it's a mix of new (mobo, ram) and second hand (CPU, gpu) and stuff I own (case, psu, screen)
Ryzen 2700x (price of a new 2600x) 8gb 2x4 3000 cl15 1060 6gb strix 470 or 450 mobo 500w Silverstone PSU
Goal is single screen gaming 75hz, with the possibility to upgrade my screen down the track and also upgrade to 16gb ram when the DDRapocalypse is over.
trying not to pass the $2500 mark. Aiming for 1440p 144hz. The part i doubt the most are mobo, graphics card and monitor. Also, can anyone recommend a good case fan? Hoping air cooling is enough for mixed usage between gaming and video editing any feedback appreciated
Benjamin Fisher
Please tell me there's more than just this one image?
William Adams
>GTX 1080 The Strix cards are excellent, but for the most part the 1080 is a waste of money. You'd be better off getting either a Vega56 to pair with that monitor, or going a 1070ti and putting the small savings toward a G-sync monitor.
Alexander Jenkins
in that case, should i stick with ROG for the 1070ti, or should i consider something else like EVGA?
Camden Russell
Either one's a solid bet. I can personally recommend the Strix cards across the Pascals, Vegas and Polaris. Never had anything to do with EVGA, but most reports are their cards a decent.
Jeremiah Russell
You can't get 1440p 144hz without at least a 1080 Ti
Jaxon Torres
>8400 no >8400 for overclocking FUCKING LOL! That's impossible. Unless there's a K in the name, Intel chips are locked and not overclockable. Drop the 8400 for an AMD Ryzen 5 2600
Carter Moore
but 2600 is shit compared to 8400 unless he buys b-die and clocks it to 4.2 which he won't. His build is budget afterall
Brody Murphy
No
Kayden Morris
You don't need B-die. Hynix ram will do in most cases. B-die is just ideal. Besides, the 8400 tends to get tapped out in modern games. It won't last long. tl;dr: MOAR THREADS!
Ethan Lopez
whats the best mini-itx case with tempered glass ?
Austin Russell
Nice meme
Logan Allen
Getting a new PSU and GPU and my first SSD M.2/PCIe.
I want my PSU and GPU to be as silent as possible (because my current setup is loud af).
Looking at this: >Corsair RM750X 750W >Either 1060 6gb or RX 580 4GB (The AMD >one so I can swap for new gen GPUs 4 free) >AND >Samsung 960 EVO NVMe M.2 SSD 250GB
Is Vive Pro worth the price just for video playback? Screen door effect doesn’t give me autism, but if the quality difference is vast, maybe it’s justified. Thank you
Eli Gomez
are there tiny anime girls walking over my motherboard when i'm not looking?
Jeremiah Jones
is this 4k?
Tyler Cox
>Corsair RM750X 750W Corsair outsource their PSUs so the quality depends on the model, I'd get a Focus Plus Gold or a Supernova G3 >Either 1060 6gb or RX 580 4GB A 8GB one like the MK2 OC shouldn't cost much more than a 1060 >Samsung 960 EVO NVMe M.2 SSD 250GB The 970 EVO should be cheaper
Dominic Johnson
1080p The 1080ti struggles to fo 60fps at 4k in most situations. The 8400 is just that much of a bottleneck. The GPU isn't even at 50% usage At 4k, it'd be at 100% no matter what
Justin Cook
i have a 290x and and an 8350 at 4.7ghz
for years i could run games at 1440p well but not anymore. I am considering grabbing a 1080 when prices drop, I don't think my CPU will be a bottleneck for 1440p / 60fps gaming?
Muh cherry picked screenshots without side to side comparison
Daniel Hughes
I get that the 1080 is better than a 1070ti, but is it $50 more expensive levels of better?
Grayson Moore
>breaking the MOD rules with a thread I'll lop on in here...
So using 2.2ghz server CPU to make a workstation worth the while? Parts seems cheap, and all I'd be doing is doodling in photoshop and other nongame related deals.
William Roberts
It can't even run an older game like FO4 at 60fps at 4k. Just search youtube for 1080ti vs Titan V 4k tests.
If you turn down settings, sure, but people spending $3k on a gaming PC are generally autistic and going to expect to be able to max everything.
Yes, the 8350 will keep you from getting 60fps+ in a number of games like GTAV. Dunno how bad it is in newer AAA games, but I know it's still bad in indie games.
No it's ~5% better, sometimes actually worse due to the slower latency VRAM, so not worth ~10% more.
>2.2GHz CPU in Adobe shit Hell no.
Henry Perry
If I could only afford buying one new part should it be the GPU or cpu ? I am looking to buying a used Xeon cpu.
Leo Baker
2.2gz runs near 2.8 for tasking, but I get that its not optimal for it... just a 200 dollar complete computer rig is tempting
