>looks at Ryzen >looks at Intel >still rocking Sandy Bridge 2600k OC'd to 4.5Ghz since 2012 and everything runs great
Is there any real reason to upgrade?
If building a budget gaming computer, is there any real reason not to buy used I7 2600k and overclock, used old motherboard, used cheap af ram, and blow your load on a used 1070?
>80-120 for a used I7 2600k >50-75 for used 16 gb ddr3 ram >50-75 for used motherboard >250-300 for a used GTX 1070 >75 for a decent case >75 for a decent PSU >50 for an aftermarket CPU cooler >50 for a 250gb OS SSD >50 for a storage drive
Total cost: $700-$850, can play all modern games at great settings, VR, alright at multi-tasking, etc...
Can we just give Sandy Bridge the love and affection it still deserves in 2018? I really can't see a compelling reason to upgrade or recommend buying anything newer than 2012 aside from the video card and SSD for the budget conscious gamer.
Cost difference between used 2600k and 3770k is pretty wide and the performance gains aren't that much.
Hunter Miller
This Also how much cum is bad for a GTX 1080Ti?
Kevin Perry
>not mixing semen with the thermal paste so you can smell your cummies while gaming >2018
Ayden Perry
That acid and sour smell you always notice after being killed in Fornite...
Joseph Brown
>t. boomer
John Ramirez
>read post >shifts in seat >smell of pizzarolls and unhealthy gut bacteria fills the room >breathe in that old familiar scent >tonight is a good night to shitpost
Zachary Myers
You can get a Ryzen 1600 or 2600 for ~$130-$160. For bit more than your i7 2600K, you'll get something that's way better.
Asher Jones
Yeah, but you also need A new mobo New RAM (ddr4) Probably a new gpu too
So it's not just 160 for the cpu
Mason Wilson
>that ddr5 and new mobo price tho
not saying I don't see a benefit for some applications and that Sandy Bridge is showing its age a bit, (power consumption, video editing), but really with used i7 2600k where a used i5 2500k was just a few months ago, I really don't know of a better buy than the 2600k. >inb4 H55 and Xeon fags
Jacob Torres
*ddr4
Angel Sanchez
I wouldn't upgrade to Ryzen or 8th gen Intel from a 2600k, but I wouldn't waste money building a 2nd gen system either.
If I needed a PC, I would probably just build a Ryzen system so I have the option to upgrade when it gets too old.
Still using the 3770k with the GTX 970 with no plans of upgrading.
Joseph Flores
I was under the impression you'd be buying a motherboard for your 2600K build as well. The cost of a brand new b350 motherboard is in the same range as your used 2600K motherboard. DDR4 16 GB can go ~100. Meanwhile your DDR3 16 GB goes close to ~$80-$90 on ebay for used.
This is why I didn't include in the ram/mobo since you can get a brand new ram/mobo for same price as the old used ddr3 ram/mobo.
For roughly $30-$50 more, you get 50%+ better ram speed and 50% better thread/core count with better IPC. Seems like a no brainer to me.
Your "budget" sandy bridge would be valid 2-3 years ago before the release of Ryzen. Now, its just a junk build for those price.
Luis Kelly
Now that Sandybridge isn't worth anything anymore, could you please try to do this with a torch?
[email protected] here I'll only upgrade when 4k gaming is mainstream
Blake Nelson
You should upgrade your cooling solution if you're only 4.5ghz on Sandybridge.
John Bennett
>DDR4 16 GB can go ~100 Maybe a few years ago when prices weren't retarded. Even 2133Mhz stuff is pricy and you won't want that gimping Ryzen anyways. RAM prices is what kills budget Ryzen builds unfortunately.
Kayden Barnes
Wait for Zen 2 or Intel's 9000 series.
Jayden Martin
Is Sandy that good? I have a 2500k rotting away in the basement since 2014.
Nathan Gonzalez
>Can we just give Sandy Bridge the love and affection it still deserves in 2018? No intel cpus deserve love or affection since meltdown was discovered. We were all fooled.
Oliver Gonzalez
The only reason I upgraded from 3570k to 1600 is because I have fun upgrading. Though I enjoy how silent am4 boxed cooler is compared to my previous performa which still couldn't handle 3570k (not delidded) at 4.5 GHz. And it's the cheapest wraith spire, I can't begin to imagine how good wraith max should be.
Jayden Cox
It is still viable, especially when overclocked, through an i7 would be more ideal now for the extra threads.
Colton Martinez
Pretty much anything since the turn of the decade is still quite viable for gaymen. I'm sitting on an i7-930 with very little complaint besides temps.
Justin Foster
-120 for a used I7 2600k That can can get you a Xeon E5 with 8 cores
Camden Cook
Usb3.0 Nvme No meltdown security flaw.
Brandon Johnson
if you look for long enough you'll find that used stuff for much much cheaper got a full pc with a very decent case, high end p55 board, i7 860 and 500w psu for 70€, a gigabyte z68 board for 25€ and 16gb ddr3 that clocks to 2200 cl10 for 50€ in the past week alone
Matthew Fisher
Buy a used Lenovo M83 with an i5 for ~150. Buy a GTX 1050 ti for 150-180. Congrats you have a gaming computer.
Kayden Davis
>MUH GAYUMZ!11 LITERALLY FUCK OFF YOU DUMB VIDYA SUMMERFAG
Oliver Murphy
>buy 2500K and HD7850 in 2012, spend around a €1000 on the whole rig >intend to use it for 4-5 years and then upgrade >mfw the NAND and GPU jews fucked the market hard in the mean time >don't want to upgrade now since it's a giant rip off >still using the same ancient tech until this day Eh, could be worse. Feels a bit slow now though.
Grayson Taylor
>Even 2133Mhz stuff is pricy and you won't want that gimping Ryzen anyways. Unless you're planning to use the IGP of a Ryzen APU, the RAM frequency meme is vastly exaggerated. Even in pic related, even the fairly modest gains in the workloads that benefited the most are because those programs are actually memory-bandwidth bound, which is not terribly common.
You can get a machine with an i7 and 8GB of RAM for under $200 on Ebay. Toss in any $200-300 GPU and a PSU and you're gucci.
Mason Morris
*overheats*
Jackson Phillips
I'm pretty happy with my Ryzen 2700x, but I'll still probably sell it when the 3000 series comes out, though I might wait for the 4000 (or 5000, whatever its called) series.
Oliver Lopez
I have the i7 2700K. Stick with it until AMD makes Ryzen 3 or Intel makes something that isn't an emergency (tiny) bump in performance.
I know DDR4 (soon DDR5) and M.2 is tempting but as of now, there really isn't a need to change since you'd have to buy so much new and the value/performance ratio is not worth it.
My 2700K at 4.5GHz have 3% bottleneck with a GTX1070 according to that bottleneck site people posts.
Use until it breaks.
>Can we just give Sandy Bridge the love and affection it still deserves in 2018? Sure will.
Sandy has issues with frame latency in physics based work, specially on games.
Noticeable? At 60 fps not so much, if you aren't nitpicking. Over 120 fps, yes.
Gavin Foster
I chose that graph because I thought it was more realistic in terms of relative performance, as most people don't use 3466 memory, but compared to 2667 it's 30% faster, which is still a greater difference than upgrading from 2133 to 2667.
But the article compared many memory speeds from 2133 up to 3466. Pic related is the full-spectrum comparison. The whole article is at .
Let's see some charts including SB including realistic overclocks on all processors being compared.
Gavin Wood
why use a i7 for gaming no game performs better above 4core. i3 are even 4core now best gaming cpu atm is i3 8350k it can clock to 5.5ghz on air higher than any 8series cpu.
Bentley Thomas
>1080Ti for playing fortnite that triggered me real good
Colton Carter
>no game performs better above 4core Digital foundry did some tests a while back that showed 4 threads may not always be enough any more. youtube.com/watch?v=4RMbYe4X2LI Not every game is well threaded but when it is (like Crysis 3) it can become thread starved and it starts to stutter.
Lucas Edwards
Would you get an used girlfriend?
Christopher Robinson
>Is there any real reason to upgrade? You may have to come up with a need for lots of cores
