How would you justify charging $70 for a code/text editor Jow Forums?

Just switched to Linux recently so I've been getting a feel for different text editors and yeah, vim is nice in theory but you have to find and download so many plugins to do basic things that all text editors should do already. Vim's still my favorite because it's fairly simple but having to download so many plugins is a big hassle.

>we have it easy compared to anyone else, especially compared with how much we make
doesn't matter how good sublime is, the price is fucking bullshit. it's just shameless fucking greed and i'll continue pirating it. i'd pay $30 for it, but fuck that guy for asking $70. doesn't even matter if you make millions, it's just the fucking principle

I would rather donate this money to Uganda

>paying for softwares

Capitalism

'(try spacemacs with evil)

National Socialism, not Communism

>i'll continue pirating it
How/why the fuck do you pirate it when it's available for free? Did someone actually go through the trouble of "cracking" it to remove the "please buy the license" prompt that pops up once or twice a week at most?

But user, ed has had a GNU/Linux port for years.

t. NEET loser

>How would you justify charging $70 for a code/text editor Jow Forums?
I flipped a bit in the binary, and it works like a $70 purchase.

It's free tho.

If you want to get into principles, why would you buy nonfree software even if it was $30?

it's so cheap. photo/video editors cost 700$.

>download the trial
>use that user plugin that stops the pop-up
>???
>any job I want
>300k starting

> justify charging $70 for a code/text editor
if your code/text editor is not free as in freedom open source software you should consider suicide. Or career change, which might be arguably worse.
Even the ungodly clusterfuck known as vim is better than any proprietary text editor.

> emacs
> dropping to 4 fps
here's a nickel, son. Get yourself a better computer.

>How would you justify charging $70 for a code/text editor Jow Forums?
Written by devs on a Halal diet.

You could just use Windows.

Go ahead, crucify me.

>Did someone actually go through the trouble of "cracking" it to remove the "please buy the license" prompt that pops up once or twice a week at most?
I posted 1 month ago a script that modifies the binary and stops the "please buy the license" message from showing.

I'd agree with the guy complaining for the $70 price tag.
most of the time I have to use external plugins to have the functionality.
They don't offer something new, they just have the basic support for several languages and that's all.
All the work is done via external plugins which are for free.
The $70 are completely unjustified.
The problem is not that the price is high,
the problem is that you pay $70 and you have to use a community supported plugin. Those plugins, because it's a community and not a company, are often many iterations behind in the frameworks that they support.
e.g. I used some wordpress plugin on top of sublime. The wordpress plugin is almost 1 year behind in updates than the current wordpress framework. All new features are unavailable. Sublime just offers simple php and html support. If they supported the plugins, $70 would be the right choice and an investment... but they don't bother.
Text editors and IDEs worth nothing these days, check emacs, vim, netbeans, eclipse, e.t.c....
What's worth is the ecosystem around them.
I'd gladly pay for a few plugins to be updated and fully featured for the purpose they are built for, instead of wasting time with community supported shit that may or may not work.
sublime mostly sells editors due to their community, not their dev team.
If several of their famous addons get EOL'd for any reason, a big portion of their users would migrate to something else.

>Get yourself a better computer.
what?
I am running emacs on a 701 EEE PC
what's worse than that?

If you need plugins to improve your editor, it's time to get a better editor.

I can't.
Atom does the same shit but it's free
Kate does everything ST does but it's free and less RAM-hungry
KDevelop does way more than ST, is still free, and uses roughly the same amount of memory (~200-400MB)

I blocked it in the firewall and used a key no problem with it so far.

I would never pay for Sublime Text

>Made with heart in Javascript.

No.

I am making my life easier.

I was able to do that for version 2, but I haven't figured out version 3, yet.

because devs need money for food and if you like sublime text maybe you should pay for it to show your appreciation

other than limetext, what are some ST clones that aren't written with electron? i prefer when my keystrokes don't have 400ms lag to appear onscreen.

I wouldn't, it's why I use vscode

no

Editors use plugins. An IDE should not require plugins.

or just use a hex editor, no need for keys, it'll never expire

it's a shame intellisense never, ever works. vscode would otherwise be tolerable at worst.

VSCode

vscode is electron, so it uses an unreasonable amount of RAM, is not fast enough to start, and has keystroke lag

Linux is a kernel, retards.

>i have nothing of substance to contribute to this conversation so i'll just be a pedantic cunt

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It used to pop up for me almost everytime I saved. Luckily my company bought me a license

Never had the time to port this to Linux or Mac, but its pretty trivial to dismiss the nagging window.
gist.github.com/altbdoor/6c36d2c83accd3095145085d04c84f3b

I don't, some nice lady on twitter paid for it for me to support the devs.

>How would you justify charging X for $PRODUCT
You're a bit confused about how this works. If people are buying the product at the asking price, then the price is justified.

It does make sense. If you're using Sublime, you probably fall into one of two categories.
>hobbyist/student/etc
This group has little disposable income, no interest in paying for a text editor, and wouldn't be any more likely to pay if the price were $60, 50, 40. They /might/ pay if the price were something like $25/20/10, but that's a huge price cut.
>professional software developer
This group is high-income and is very interested in productive tools. The price would not put them off and could even be raised a bit (although not without limit; $80 would be fine but for $100+ I would expect an IDE rather than a pure editor).

vim is enough

Seriously? What's the benefit of using Sublime over another text editor like VS Code? To my understanding, Sublime doesn't come with a plugin manager by default.

With time 4coder will become the best text-editor.

Aesthetics and load times

ed is enough

no, ed is only good for batch processing. only masochists use it interactively nowadays.

It was a fair price before vsc/atom appeared. Right now Sublime is obsolete.

You can make customize VS Code

Jesus motherfucking christ, what's with that leddit formatting?

Atom is the superior text editor. Even with the extensions I use it's blazing fast. Default config kinda sucks though. Enter to auto-complete was annoying shit.

>Atom
>Blazing fast
pick one

How do you find out which extensions are slowing down your text editor? I don't use any extension driven text editor because of this.

> I just wish it dealt better with big files (over few gigs).

wtf man? do you add images to your source code or something?

New lines is not redit formating kid. Even double new lines is not reddit. Whats next? Capitalization is reddit? Question marks is reddit? Stop with this meme fucktard.

Is is electron/js shit? Can it do as much as sublime with as few resources as sublime? Serouos questions - too lazy to google that one up. Definitely I have tried it but can't remember.

I see you newer had to deal with 10gig log file. Good for you.

>emacs
>9 found

>vim
>8 found

Emacs wins again!

what principles, communist faggot? This is free market, If don't want to pay use something that is free. I use Emacs because I like it and I am not a brainlet. If you are stupid and poor I am sorry for you.

No. Editor/ide should be bare minimum. And then you use plugins to add what you need. That is how you avoid bloat.

because i don't give a fuck if it's nonfree. on principle

how you avoid bloat is having your OS be the IDE

people pay. I'd charge 200000 if they paid that much.

Yes, emacs is good. But not that good.

if you don't want to live being this stupid, fucking kill yourself, retard

i did not say have the IDE be the OS

>too stupid to use free shit
>too poor to pay for something

stop, user. Just stop

It can open and edit xxx GB sized files without stuttering, crashing, shitty plugins or external tools and is otherwise wellmade, unlike most FOSS editors. Not sure this applies to ST, though.

you use emacs because you have 0 needs and lack imagination

>user use something because he likes it and can handle it
>other user whines like a little bitch, he is angry with the world and society because he cannot pay for a fucking text editor

stop user, you are just hurting yourself

i can pay for it, but it's only worth $30, not $70
so fuck that guy, he can suck a dick

$70 isnt much for a tool you use several hours a day for work. It’s just a shame they don’t have student discount of some sort, I’d gladly pay 20 bucks to support the author because it’s a great piece of software, but $70 is a lot of money for a student from eastern europe.

>Get yourself a better computer
There's no need when good editors like sublime text exist.

PyCharm is 200$ for one year, ST is 70$ with no time limit. The point that licenses does not expire eliminates educational discount, because you can just buy the license as a student and use it afterwards. Adding a one year free license to something, that already has a unlimited free trial does not seem to be useful to me. (I know students, who "try" it during their studies and are looking forward to buy it when they have more money.)

In addition I don't understand why you should crack a version when you have a unlimited trial. I don't think anyone with that mentality would buy it for a lower price.

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>blazing fast
cmon user, I use atom too but "blazing fast" is the last term I'd use to describe it

pycharm is a fucking bloated garbage dumpster fire

pycharm -> IDE
ST -> text editor

>agruing about toddler programming languages
ma/g/ic

>that reading comprehension

exactly. fuck IDEs, they are the slowest fucking garbage imaginable

he's just the lost macfag spammer

To do that you'd have to know what to change though

t. boomer that never had a real job

you need a reality check, gramps
you're so fucking senile you need an IDE to hold your hand for your shitware "projects"

You really can't.
I'd say the "roof price" for programs and games developed by small software houses is the classic 19,99$.
In this case asking 70$ for a noteblock with colors like ST3 is an awful deal.

for you maybe but for someone else don't. Look, for example, I cannot image paying 1000 dollars for a piece of meat but some people like that shit. It's better? For me, no. I am happy eating a simple 10 dollar steak.

Same shit, just different reasons to kill people

>you could just buy spyware when you have a better free alternative

>opening a 10GB log file
You're a webdev, right?

>not adding 3d graphics, animations and flowcharts to your sourcecode

>Find license on GitHub
>Register
>127.0.0.1 license.sublimehq.com