P2P?

Could Jow Forums change to a peer to peer "format", if needed due to the threat of censorship of boards like /b/ and Jow Forums?

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github.com/majestrate/nntpchan
twitter.com/AnonBabble

why can't we just get rid of /b/ and Jow Forums instead

yes
but those boards are useless, so no reason to.

No because hiro couldn't make money then.
You could host your own board that way though.

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Self censorship's just as detrimental as external force censorship. Plus I quite like b and pol.

Can we just go full meme and make an imageboard powered by blockchain?

ChanCoin could be a thing.

Ipfs imageboard

mite b cool desu

smugboard is a thing

Bump. Who's setting up the GitHub repo?

Any chan* based site is doomed to fail as long as Jow Forums exists. Nobody is going to migrate no matter how superior the other site is.

Unless hiro signs off on it.

Somebody's actually made a PoC.

davidwong.fr/FiveMedium/

by signing off, you mean telling everyone to migrate because Jow Forums is shutting down, otherwise they arent leaving.

Just buy Jow Forums off hiro and force change upon the users

get rid of b and pol. those faggots will go to whatever site wants them.

if those boards are stopping this website from being ad friendly, and causing the ship to go down then cut them off

>causing the ship to go down

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Yeah pretty much.

>Plus I quite like b and pol.
back to your quarantine boards you stupid fuck

>censorship hungry reddit newfag telling anyone else what to do

Hang your fucking self

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This is interesting but I'm not too sure about a blockchain-based chan. I'll wait to see what happens and reserve my judgement.


Software developer here. There are several reasons why this would be a challenge.

#1
P2P security still hasn't been figured out. Unless you want a small degree of centralization then you can have certificates along with public keys. For a completely decentralized approach look into CL-PKC (certificateless public key cryptography).


#2
Where will the data be stored and how? Things like IPFS are promising but you need something automated. No one is going to have a shell open entering IPFS commands to save each and every post. I'm sure a script could be written to store posts but something like using torrents would be way better. Even then security is still a big issue with torrents.


#3
If its truly peer to peer it will be serverless. This means that there will be no more Jow Forums.org. There will be no Jow Forums as you know it. There will be no central authority. Pedos will fucking swarm the place even more than they already have. It will be up to the people to store the information for each posts on their own personal machines. This has pros and cons. The obvious pros meaning that I can browse /b/ and not bother with any pornographic posts or with Andy Sixx log posts. I won't ever have to see another banana post again. But it also means that cataloging posts will be difficult. If everything is p2p and there is no central location for posts where the fuck do you put them? If they're stored as torrents then uploading the files to something like IPFS will work just fine but the thread dies when people stop seeding (free rider problem). The thread is only really "active" when the seeders are online. If there is a mobile client that is lightweight enough for people to bother installing it then this may be feasible...maybe.


More to come (1/?)

Nothing wrong with censoring Nazis

You mean /b/ and /lgbt/

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>everybody should be allowed a say
>except people i disagree with

>be Jow Forumsack
>call someone newfag redditor

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>Whatever I disagree with is bait

Not me in particular but most people.
Majority of people are anti-nazi. Not to mention they disrupt social order.

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Now for a few reasons why this could actually work, how it would work, and why it would kick ass

#1
There have been many advancements in the areas of decentralized computing, containerized applications, and unikernels. We can now run a language virtual machine (think Java), slap a tiny amount of kernel code under it (shit like a network stack, filesystem, etc.), and bundle it with your app. You now have an application which can be installed under a hypervisor with little to no surface area for attack. Its also blindingly fast (30ms boot time).

The application could be run as a guest instance in a hypervisor or as a regular application on your favorite operating system. For proof of this google "RUMP kernel". Be forewarned. This is not a job for your average application developer although they will need to be involved. You will need some serious systems guys.


#2
Pedos, dog fuckers, log posters, and other undesirables would be contained. Most people don't want that shit on their machines so most people will refuse to seed the torrents representing their threads. Your view of "the chan" will only be what you want to see. You would still be able to go to the IPFS share and see the torrents for each thread but you would not be obligated to seed.


#3
Different boards could exist as directories in IPFS (or some other decentralized storage service). The directories will contain torrents that each represent an entire thread. The data is really only stored by the users. Every person is their own moderator. This also means that there would have to be a mechanism in place for the user to delete (and stop seeding) posts that they don't like. If everyone doesn't like a particular post it'll pretty much disappear. The user will have been effectively shadow banned.

2/?

>emoji reddit nigger post 2011 cancer calling me new

Kill yourself faggot. You wouldn't have lasted a day on this site pre Jow Forums.

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>trying this hard to fit in

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Nah man, Jow Forums needs low latency and p2p is not good for that.

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#4
There is no reason why pictures are the only thing that can be attached to threads. We can already embed video and images but what about other forms of content? I'm not sure what else could be done besides video, images, and audio but software engineers are incredibly creative and so are many non-technical people.


#5
It would be free in every way you can imagine. You control the content you see. It would be open source so you'd control the code. People would be able to extend it in ways that I can't imagine right now.


In closing, its entirely doable but it will take a lot of time and effort.

3/3

Jow Forums doesn't really NEED low latency. Low latency is nice but most of the content on Jow Forums is static. Check out my posts, my fine roody-poo.

Why not just federate it like mastodon?

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You sound like such a newfag I'm genuinely getting second hand embarrassment from you

This already exists, it's called ZeroChan and it's available on it's available on ZeroNet at:
127.0.0.1:43110/0chan.bit

>most of the content on Jow Forums is static
>host static site content on p2p
wew

Containment boards. Don't want em here, that's for sure.

you need zeronet
this is milchan, exactly what you asked for

pastebin.com/FxP9pRnz

>trying hard to fit in

Stop acting like you haven't just gotten here a few years ago you little newfag.

I have archive posts namefagging that are older than you fag.

I've heard of Mastodon before but I didn't know it had a 500 count character limit. Since its open source it could be modified to suit our needs but that may mean that it would break many other features. I like that you can follow users from different instances but isn't the whole point of chans to be anonymous?

Its definitely an easier route that what I had posted! I give you kudos for that. Its codebase could serve as a jumping off point for the "new chan" but, in its current state, it doesn't look 100% suitable as a Jow Forums replacement.

Biggest issues are the 500 character limit and the fact that its not in a "chan style". Granted, many of us wouldn't mind that but it wouldn't be a "chan". It would be just be another Mastodon instance.

why can't we just get rid of every board? the issues would simply disappear

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Now you have all that cancer concentrated and you enable them to spread their cancer to other boards.
You're talking like you're not aware of daily raids they organize on discord because shitting up other boards is so much win and for the lulz :^)
OG cancer

Kid I've been here before Jow Forums had backlinks. Just do us all a favor and an hero.

You got me excited by the idea of this site getting shut down. I've wasted a decade of my life here and I need it to die so I can leave.

>newfag doesn't know the purpose of containment boards
>actually a newfag myself

>anti-nazi
>complaining about social order
now THIS is podracing

I meant stealing the federation idea where people can install nodes/instances on separate that can replicate the data, so if a node goes down all is not lost. Mastodon itself is based on GNU social and has already been infested with sjws.

Iā€™m actually working on something like this (anonymous decentralized imageboard) from scratch in my free time for about a year now but I still have a lot left to do.

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Bullshit faggot. You act like Jow Forums or even nu/b/ is some super offensive thing there is no way you were here pre 2008 or even 09 then. Was here on /b/ before then admiring the y157 threads daily. You're full of fucking shit.

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samefag from earlier. do you have a github for this? I'd be happy to contribute whenever I can.

>newfag suddenly realizes he's a newfag
Pottery

how about you two faggots make out and leave the thread? Men are talking. Get out.

>calling me new
>doesn't even know y157

Sweet little lying reddit faggot

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>look at me namedropping I swear I'm not new
Close that ed and just kill yourself kid. You. Are. New.

Unfortunately Iā€™m not ready to show it yet, I keep it on a self hosted gitlab server and a lot of the code has to be refactored because it is getting messy. However the board system is complete, the chat is complete, the threads are even ā€œblock chainedā€ to make sure the nodes donā€™t try to manipulate them. Whatā€™s left for me to finish is the ā€œblind jury moderationā€ system that I came up with, the federation system and bug fixes/polish.

My big worry is will it be feasible to decentralize the image servers, thatā€™s where most of the bandwidth drain comes from and also most of the liability.

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>namedropping

Its not even a name you dumb newfag. leave.

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There is literally no excuse for being a bigot of any sort. Stop trying to your hatred of black people and gay people.

Curious. What turned you into a pedo?

When you're a kid other kids your age are attractive to you. Makes no sense to magically grow out of that attraction.

Look, a reddit neckbeard

Remeber to implement image posting to prevent steganography so your board doesn't become a honeypot for pedos

yea and too strip out the exif data too!

Realistically it would just be full of far right conspiracy theorists, ISIS, and child porn.

/thread.
4chanb.org and 4chanpol.org should be a thing.
I'm tired of browsing /tv/ and getting replies about how kiked the society is and republican/democrat posting on every fucking board. These dumb fucks from Jow Forums should stay on their dumb fuck board

>trying this hard to look cool

This thread got derailed bad

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P2P Jow Forums would actually be a lot faster, even with slower internet, simply because you won't need to complete a captcha or we could use one that isn't fucking retarded

How would you do a captcha that is not retarded?

NNTPCHAN
NNTPCHAN
NNTPCHAN
NNTPCHAN

Holy shit, I was looking for this picture, somehow it got lost in my Pc.

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dubs and good idea too
>i....i'll make the logo.
here, just a draft.

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NNTPCHAN github.com/majestrate/nntpchan
NNTPCHAN github.com/majestrate/nntpchan
NNTPCHAN github.com/majestrate/nntpchan
NNTPCHAN github.com/majestrate/nntpchan

Already exists and you can make a node where you moderate like you want.

>reddit spacing

I don't even have a reaction image capable of portraying how abhorrent this post is. Just do us all a favour and cease your fucking breathing mate.

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This.
Pedobait nigger fuck off, you are the kind of cancer that killed /b/.