Y'all wasting time on science which is just a surrogate activity...

Y'all wasting time on science which is just a surrogate activity. You should stop programming/ricing/discussing tech and start exerting yourself in a serious way, being in control o life-death issues. Build your own house, grow your food, hunt animals for meat. Otherwise you are just a tools of the system with deprived autonomy.

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87. Science and technology provide the most important examples of surrogate activities. Some scientists claim that they are motivated by “curiosity” or by a desire to “benefit humanity.” But it is easy to see that neither of these can be the principal motive of most scientists. As for “curiosity,” that notion is simply absurd. Most scientists work on highly specialized problems that are not the object of any normal curiosity. For example, is an astronomer, a mathematician or an entomologist curious about the properties of isopropyltrimethylmethane? Of course not. Only a chemist is curious about such a thing, and he is curious about it only because chemistry is his surrogate activity. Is the chemist curious about the appropriate classification of a new species of beetle? No. That question is of interest only to the entomologist, and he is interested in it only because entomology is his surrogate activity. If the chemist and the entomologist had to exert themselves seriously to obtain the physical necessities, and if that effort exercised their abilities in an interesting way but in some nonscientific pursuit, then they wouldn’t give a damn about isopropyltrimethylmethane or the classification of beetles. Suppose that lack of funds for postgraduate education had led the chemist to become an insurance broker instead of a chemist. In that case he would have been very interested in insurance matters but would have cared nothing about isopropyltrimethylmethane. In any case it is not normal to put into the satisfaction of mere curiosity the amount of time and effort that scientists put into their work. The “curiosity” explanation for the scientists’ motive just doesn’t stand up.

89. The same is true of scientists generally. With possible rare exceptions, their motive is neither curiosity nor a desire to benefit humanity but the need to go through the power process: to have a goal (a scientific problem to solve), to make an effort (research) and to attain the goal (solution of the problem.) Science is a surrogate activity because scientists work mainly for the fulfillment they get out of the work itself.

90. Of course, it’s not that simple. Other motives do play a role for many scientists. Money and status for example. Some scientists may be persons of the type who have an insatiable drive for status (see paragraph 79) and this may provide much of the motivation for their work. No doubt the majority of scientists, like the majority of the general population, are more or less susceptible to advertising and marketing techniques and need money to satisfy their craving for goods and services. Thus science is not a PURE surrogate activity. But it is in large part a surrogate activity.

91. Also, science and technology constitute a power mass movement, and many scientists gratify their need for power through identification with this mass movement (see paragraph 83).

92. Thus science marches on blindly, without regard to the real welfare of the human race or to any other standard, obedient only to the psychological needs of the scientists and of the government officials and corporation executives who provide the funds for research.

>For example, is an astronomer, a mathematician or an entomologist curious about the properties of isopropyltrimethylmethane? Of course not. Only a chemist is curious about such a thing,
False premise

How?

How come? Each scientists specializes in a very particular task. No human could be interested in properties of isopropyltrimethylmethane just by means of simple curiosity.

It feels good doing something my forefathers could not have imagined.
Any fucko can go to war and raise kids in a small house with a mailbox in front, but that's a stale concept.

>Each scientists specializes in a very particular task.
While this is true, it isn't true that ones interest only extends to a single field. My gf is doing a doctorate in medicine, and I'm very interested in her research although it isn't my speciality.

>No human could be interested in properties of isopropyltrimethylmethane just by means of simple curiosity.
That's demonstratively wrong.

Totally dude. You should go shit in a field and die at 45 while I waste my time drinking South American coffee and playing video games.

Would you be free doing that? Or would you have to go to work every day, take a bunch of crap from your boss, and then sublimate your anger and frustration with system into games and pornography?

Why are you concerned with your life span anyway? Primitive people didn't live that long but they were totally satisfied and fulfilled with their life. They raised a child, taught him to hunt and gather, and then die happily afterwards because they did their job.

>die happily afterwards because they did their job.
So why can't I feel this way about my current job?

Baseless assumptions. In fact, I have the time and money to afford hobbies.
Freedom is a question of point of view. How free will you be at 40 when your body becomes weak?

Because you serve for someone else, your boss for example. You work for the system, you waste your energy to feed it, instead of exerting yourself into your own life-death issues. You are nothing but a cog in the social machine, doing stuff for someone else rather for yourself.

When I was in my 20s I had the same outlook on working as you. The thing is, if you're truly unhappy with a job place, it's likely because of the people you're working with and you should probably find something else.
Work in itself is not some necessary evil, it is rewarding and fulfilling, especially when done in the right company. Yes even menial jobs, though you are more likely to meet negative, pessimistic people working there making it a toxic environment for all involved.
Also, even the best workplaces have their ups and downs, that's life. Secluding yourself from society and becoming self-sufficient is a romantic delusion. Because I doubt you'd want to live without the Internet and guess what that exists because of people. Other people. Even highly introverted people require small doses of social interaction to remain sane.

You first.

>Because you serve for someone else, your boss for example.
Why is this a problem?

>You work for the system, you waste your energy to feed it, instead of exerting yourself into your own life-death issues.
But the system is there so both me and my neighbours don't have to worry about not having enough food next winter.

>You are nothing but a cog in the social machine, doing stuff for someone else rather for yourself.
No, I contribute for both myself and someone else.

rather than*

Oh I am very satisfied with my life and modern life in general. Civilization thrived when people specialised in different roles for a greater whole.
The dumb neanderthal aztecs sure weren't happy and fulfilled getting full of good western european lead.

>Civilization thrived when people specialised in different roles for a greater whole.
This.

>The dumb neanderthal aztecs sure weren't happy and fulfilled getting full of good western european lead.
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>some people want more freedom than current system offers
>LET'S SHOOT 'EM BOYZZZZ
Typical brainwashed americacuck.

>dumb jungle niggers run solely on drugs (dopamine, endorphine)
>get shitter shattered by european nobles

>literally working your fingers to the bone and stressing all the time in order to not die of sickness and starvation instead of working a comfy 9-16 job and enjoying 8-9 hours of freedom as well as time off in the weekends
>"freedom"

>getting shit from your boss every day for the whole life and serving someone else just to get those 5-6 hours of degrading games and mindless tv-shows

>5-6 hours
For me.

My parents only had 3 hours. My grandparents had less. My children will enjoy more free time. My children's children will enjoy even more free time. It's called progress, it doesn't happen over night.

Not to mention, I can survive in the social system: I'm a pretty good programmer, which means that I can contribute with my skills and not worrying about how I will survive the winter.

On the other hand, I'm a horrible hunter, and I would die if I was left on my own. So why would I want that, for some inflated sense of freedom that doesn't mean anything since it would be a literal struggle to survive.