Y'all wasting time on science which is just a surrogate activity...

Y'all wasting time on science which is just a surrogate activity. You should stop programming/ricing/discussing tech and start exerting yourself in a serious way, being in control o life-death issues. Build your own house, grow your food, hunt animals for meat. Otherwise you are just a tools of the system with deprived autonomy.

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Fucking mod deleted last thread for no reason at all, I fucking hate Jow Forums sometimes

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Also, I don't play vidya and I don't even own a TV. I spend my free time socialising with friends or learning new stuff or playing music. Things I wouldn't have time to do if I were forced to run around picking berries for the winter.
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The point is that you do stuff like hanging out with friends or playing music merely for the fulfillment that you get from it. If you were have to use your intelligence and body to hunt and get food in interesting and different ways, you wouldn't want to do that you do today because you would be satisfied and fulfilled already.

>The point is that you do stuff like hanging out with friends or playing music merely for the fulfillment that you get from it
So? Isn't that the point of insisting on building your own home too, the sense of fulfilment of being autonomic?

>If you were have to use your intelligence and body to hunt and get food in interesting and different ways, you wouldn't want to do that you do today because you would be satisfied and fulfilled already.
I very much doubt that. I think menial tasks are boring as fuck and the reason I'm bad at hunting is because I find it uninteresting as hell. I've gone hunting many times with both my father when I was young and with friends as an adult, and it just doesn't appeal to me at all. Sure, walking around in nature is nice, but it's not something I would enjoy doing every fucking day.

>the sense of fulfilment of being autonomic
No, self-sufficiency actually is a real goal (as opposed to surrogate activities such as guitar playing or anything of the sort which is pursued merely for the fulfillment) because you provide yourself with food and security and all physical necessities.

>You should stop shitposting on Jow Forums and start exerting yourself in a serious way, being in control o life-death issues. Build your own house, grow your food, hunt animals for meat. Otherwise you are just a tools of the system with deprived autonomy.

I am happy shitposting, it's my surrogate activity after all.

>you're only allowed to enjoy struggle and work
Sounds pretty boring to me. The point of the social system is that we have freed ourselves from a meaningless existence where everything not directly contributing to survival is deemed a waste of energy, and we are now enjoying real freedom and able to find meaning in other things in life.

I refuse to revert back to being a slave of my own bodily needs.

Conservatism and traditionalism are objectively horrible algorithms for progress entirely based on reinventing the wheel.
If the only reason you are doing it is for 'feelsies', you are an egotistic cancer on society.

>revert back to crazy Ted's ideal anti-society where everyone is left to their own device
>some niggers find out it's more fruitful to hunt in groups than alone
>some of these niggers find out if they hunt in larger groups they get excess meat that they can use to trade with other groups
>some other niggers find out they suck at hunting, but they're pretty good at picking berries, so they decide to trade
>...
>we're back to a social system that Ted despises
The social system is inevitable because of our evolution. We are meant to group together in tribes and groups where people can hone their specialities for the greater whole.

I'm not convinced that surrogate activities aren't as fulfilling as using your mental powers for survival and taking your place in the power process

you don't understand, there would be a general consciousness about such things and it would get violently torn down in the same way that the present technological system would get torn down

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I love how the most extreme ends of the political spectrum are just people who've read too many books or seen too many movies.

You're only allowed to hunt and use the land because society decides that you can. But you have to pay for that privilidge. It's like paying to stay in a zoo and pretending you're a wild animal.

I buy my food and my house for money I've earned. If everyone were to stop doing that and begin hunting for food, you would have to share the limited resourse that you now pay to use, and you would no longer be able to stay in the zoo because more important people now want your privilidge.

>meat
>berries
>hunting
What the fuck are you talking about?
Ted's manifesto had to do with the industrial revolution/scientism and the inevitable future of technological progress culminating in genetic removal of "undesirable" traits.
How retarded do you have to be to think he suggested it's even possible to pretend like technology never existed.

We grew out of having to make our own crops, because if you have to worry about not starving to death you don't have the time to think about more important matters.
Let the peasants grow fucking vegetables for you, because anyone with a pair of arms can do it.
Thinking about the advancement of our society and technology is a different story.

read his book first pls

he doesnt reject 100% all technology, he doesnt promote living like animals

he rejects huge organized industrial society, an ever enlarging system controlling your life more and more, turning you into a depressed slave without any autonomy

>to think about more important matters.
Lol, like that? The most important matter is being in control of your life-death issues, anything else is suboptional.

Have you read his manifesto? It's not a book.. while it starts out OK you can clearly notice he went mentally insane (hint MK ULTRA/HARVARD) while in the course of writing it. Don't be a dope.

>It's not a book..
if you print the text as a book, its a book
>you can clearly notice he went mentally insane (hint MK ULTRA/HARVARD)
non-argument

wow you read his wiki page at best congratulations
His only irrational obsession in the entire manifesto is ironically what most people here would think is his most important insight, his deep hatred of SJWs (inb4 lel Jow Forums is not Jow Forums)
And no, I'm not just saying SJW because that's a trendy term, it's probably the most accurate modern term for the kind of person he blames for the downfall of society.
Anyone arguing against his manifesto with hunter gatherer cavepeople shit is just having fun attacking a strawman.