Was everything after C++98 a mistake?

Was everything after C++98 a mistake?

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everything before c++11 was a mistake.

No.

Fpbp. I started getting into programming not too long after C++11 came out. I learned C first, and I realized C++11 is a godsend compared to what it was before.

FPBP

C++ before C++11 was an absolute nightmare, see Linus Torvalds' rants about it from back then.

Did he commend C++ 11 and the newer standards or something?

He hasn't made a public comment about C++ in over 10 years, so no.

wait he reproduced???

It's not the correct Terry Davis.

>learned C++ in school as basically C with classes and STL
>doing a project to get myself up to date on everything
>all these fucking godsend features I never used
everyone ive ever worked/interviewed with probably thinks I'm an animal

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same for me one year ago. got to learn to use the new features on an internship.
the new features make so many things easier and the code cleaner, and all people who complain about them are too dumb to use them anyway

But the modern standards have only made the language more complex.

>But the modern standards have only made the language more complex.
Actually, it hasn't. More features != more complex.

It has streamlined how to write efficient and correct sepples.

Why do people use "sepples"? Can someone explain?

Unironically this, C++ after C++11 is actually quite nice to use and feels more "solid".

C++ is too hard to write

It's a joke that is as old as me. It's a pun on "see plus plus".

I've always pronounced it as "sep-ples"

>The foundation begun in C++11 is not yet complete, and C++17 did little to make our
foundation more solid, regular, and complete. Instead, it added significant surface complexity
and increased the number of features people need to learn. C++ could crumble under the
weight of these – mostly not quite fully
-baked – proposals. We should not spend most our time creating increasingly complicated facilities for experts, such as ourselves.
>We need a reasonably coherent language that can be used by “ordinary programmers” whose
main concern is to ship great applications on time.
>We now have about 150 cooks; that’s not a
good way to get a tasty and balanced meal.
We are on the path to something that could destroy C++. We must get off that path!

stroustrup.com/P0977-remember-the-vasa.pdf

Friendly reminder that Bjarne thinks that C++ is missing a Java-style garbage collector.

Friendly reminder that the ISO C++ committee wants to make 2d graphics part of the standard library

>P0267

And it was rejected/postponed.

everything after c89 was a mistake.

C11 is good.

That's too bad, portable 2d graphics would have been awesome.

no, everything after ANSI C was a mistake