I've been an electronics store, and I've played around with MacBook Pro... Shit, you were not meming about keyboard, it is literally shit. Travel distance it shit. I'm not eving considering durability. I don't know how to type on this. It is like typing on touchscreen, same feelings. It was loud in store, and I didn't knew if I pressed a key or not. I think even ZX Spectrum keyboard will be better, than this. I've 2014 MacBook Air (with badly drilled holes), and it's keyboard is just perfect in comprising with MBP. Sure, MBA keyboard is on spongy side a little bit, not as crisp as Thinkpad or some ASUSes have, but not too horrible, I'm living with it.
Why do people buy MacBook with this shitty keyboard? And why they are protecting and justifying this shit? Also, a touchbar is a meme... But I'm not sure, maybe with this shitty keyboard it is not too noticeable
Alright, I'll bite. I like the butterfly mechanism, even moreso now that it's been fixed to not get BTFO by crumbs. >Travel distance it shit. I like the low travel. Low travel = less effort to push (compared to island keys). When you pair that with the improved key stability and increased key size, the result is actually a faster laptop typing experience with fewer mistakes. Also the butterfly keys allow for less backlight leaking from around the keys and only shining through the letter windows. It's not a mechanical keyboard, but it's nice. It's a nice design. >It is like typing on touchscreen, same feelings. It literally is not at all like typing on a touchscreen, but I get what you mean. You get used to it after a couple days. Typing on a touchscreen isn't so bad, either, actually. Like typing on a big tablet like an iPad Pro or a Surface Book is pretty easy. You don't have too look at where you're typing either, because after some time your brain tends to learn where each virtual key is and it becomes second nature. >I've 2014 MacBook Air (with badly drilled holes), Yikes. > and it's keyboard is just perfect in comprising with MBP. Eh, to each his own. I prefer butterfly keys because they're bigger, more stable and more deliberate. >Why do people buy MacBook with this shitty keyboard? And why they are protecting and justifying this shit? Sometimes people like things you don't like. That's OK. >Also, a touchbar is a meme... But I'm not sure, maybe with this shitty keyboard it is not too noticeable Leave the Touch Bar alone. The Touch Bar did nothing wrong. It doesn't get in the way and only makes certain tasks you'd normally complete with Fn keys (like volume and brightness adjustment) just a tiny bit faster because you no longer have to taptaptap or hold to get the slider to where you want. Instead, you can now just grab the controls with drag them in one easy motion. It's not revolutionary, but it's a welcome change and I like it.
Alexander Evans
40 MS Points have been deposited into your Xbox account.
Adam Sanders
But seriously I owned the 2016 15" MBP but traded it back in for the 2017 13" non-Touchbar MBP then traded that in and just got a refurbed 2015 MBP. Here's what I hate about the new Macbooks: >keyboard is shit >lack of ports >touch bar is beyond stupid
Connor Gray
>keyboard is shit only in reliability, which has been fixed. >lack of ports won't be a problem in a few years. people said the same thing about the lack of a floppy disk drive. >touch bar is beyond stupid why does everyone hate the touch bar so much? there's this seething hatred for the touch bar and i don't get it. it's not that bad. it's not even "bad" per se.
Brody Cox
>inb4 "MUH STEVE WOODN'T HAVE LET THIS HAPPEN!!1!"
Aiden Torres
poorfag general?
Ryan Perez
>i didn't like a keyboard that i typed on for
Gabriel Powell
Best laptop ever, you have no taste
Thomas Adams
imo dell xps has the nicest keyboard
lenovos are decent but takes a bit longer to get used to, my 2015 mbp was decent too
Nicholas Russell
Macfag here, the 2015 retinas are just perfect, and the new ones are utter garbage.
Also, for some reason Apple likes using the lowest tier GPUs ever, so instead of using Vega Mobile, they put a fucking 560X which is basically a GT 1030 and charges $2800 for it.
Jayden Long
Everyone here hates the new keyboard but loves the rest of the hardware, I'm gonna be switching to a 2017 15" in a few weeks from a 2015 MBP and it's gonna take some getting used to, fortunately I keep my laptop docked most of the time using an external keyboard.
Matthew Hughes
The pre 2015 models were pretty good.
Apple had to fuck us with the touchbar/shitty keyboard/old processors.
At least the touch pad is decent though
Carter James
>keyboard is shit in reliability No, as the OP said, it's just shit in general, not just reliability. >lack of ports isn't a problem >this is what macfags actually believe I will say to you what I've said to others. Removing the floppy drive, CD drive, etc. was the removal of one single feature. It was not removing all but one fucking type of port. >touch bar It's a shitty gimmick that doesn't offer any new functionality.
I liked my mechanical keyboard the day I started typing on it.
Kayden Diaz
You probably like everything apple shits in your mouth. Thus your " opinion " is worthless.
Isaiah Hernandez
so is the throttling fixed?
Luke Parker
No, there are plenty of things I hate about Apple. The MacBook Pro just isn't one of them and I think it gets way too much hate. Tribalism is the antithesis to reason, user.
Luke Gutierrez
yeah that's why there isn't any threads anymore except 1 lol
Cameron Turner
>eh, to each his own. i like it, but if you don't, that's fine too! :) >FUCKING MACTODDLERS STOP GUZZLING TIM COOK'S COCK REEEEEEEEEE
Brody Bennett
how is the keyboard "shit in general?"
and the lack of ports really isn't a problem. a shitload of peripherals already connect via USB C, and most of the ones that don't tend to connect via a cable which you could very easily replace with a USB C > [whatever] cable. the few peripherals that don't connect via a cable, wirelessly, or through USB C might require a dreaded dongle, but you are not going to need as many fucking dongles and shitty tech youtubers will have you believe. you'll probably only need one dongle that can do many different things simultaneously, which is more than can be said about the previous macbook pros because you couldn't use every single port at once. the truth is that USB C + thunderbolt can do anything any other port can do, and better. so anything else is unnecessary.
Charles Perez
>It's a shitty gimmick that doesn't offer any new functionality. It offers new but minor functionality. For example, scrubbing to a specific part in a video would previously done either with your mouse, or using the number line and arrow keys. Now all you have to do is hit the exact point in the timeline you want to be. This can be pretty useful for editing videos.
It's minor, but still a plus. It's not bad and it doesn't get in the way.
Mason Watson
video scrubbing is great as it works with videos that don't have any interface like Instagram videos
Jaxson Hall
>I'm gonna be switching to a 2017 15" in a few weeks from a 2015 MBP and it's gonna take some getting used to Do yourself a favor and get a 2018 model. The keyboard is far more resistant to ingress and that alone makes it worth it. And everyone most certainly does NOT love the rest of the hardware. People tend to trash every aspect of everything that carries an Apple logo.
Samuel Gutierrez
>Typing on a touchscreen isn't so bad, either, actually gr8 b8 m8
It unironically is not. At least try it before talking shit about it. If the keys are big enough, typing isn't so bad on a touch display. I can type just as fast on a virtual keyboard as I would on a physical one.
Jeremiah Wood
When you say typing on touchscreen is as good as typing on new mbp keyboard you are literally proving OP's point.
Aiden Lewis
Christ. I didn't say typing on a physical keyboard and typing on a touchscreen are exactly the same in enjoyability. I'm just saying that typing on a touchscreen isn't so bad and shouldn't slow you down you fucking scrub. Learn to adapt.
Justin Allen
>Do yourself a favor and get a 2018 model. Don't think I can justify sending a £5000 bill to finance when I can take a 2017 MBP from a leaver, I manage tech for a software company so I can essentially pick and choose what equipment I use. The dedicated GPU in the 2017 alone is a step above my 13" Iris 6100 so I'll be taking it.
The people here love everything about the hardware but universally complain about the keyboard, I don't understand why they had to change what was a great chiclet on the 2015.
Julian Anderson
I mean, alright but just make sure you take extra good care of that keyboard then. Never let anything get into it. It's a bitch to repair and keys go dead very very easily.
Joshua Watson
Mactoddlers have defended this.
Matthew Mitchell
literally everything apple has done in the last couple of years has been a big mistake, but retards keep buying into it because IT JUST WERKZ (except when it doesnt)
Nicholas Fisher
i don't think you can repair the keyboard. I mean the battery is glued to the chassis right where you should be able to access the keyboard.
Jayden Hall
How do you trade them in?
Samuel James
We haven't had any dead keys so far fortunately.
This is the root of the problem, I believe the keyboard is one of the last things to be taken out of the chassis, meaning you need to remove everything beforehand just to get to it, making the repair stupidly expensive.
Wyatt Powell
You may learn to adapt Tim Cooks dick like the shit eating mactoddler that you are. Rest of us can enjoy actually good keyboards and functional & repairable computers
John Nelson
>legitimate argument nowhere to be found
Jason Allen
You seem angry. Are you angry?
Carson Lee
It is "fixed", expect VRM failures within one year.