Best and worst laptop manufacturers/brands and why

Lenovo? Thinkpads went to shit when they got their hands on them.

In my experience it goes,

>God tier
IBM
>High tier
Dell, Panasonic, Apple, Lenovo
>Mid tier
Microsoft, Asus, HP, Sony
>Low tier
Acer, MSI, Samsung, Huawei

the fact that you can put in socketed desktop CPUs and they're also built like tanks

>Built like tanks is a good thing

>Great
Lenovo(thinkpads)
Dell xps
Apple (overpriced)
>good
Hp elitebooks
Asus
Dell latitude
>Shit tier
All consumer tier shit

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Not him but for me it is. Im not at all concerned about weight and am looking for good build quality

HP are the worst. It gets so fucking hot.

can confirm. I've had 2 HP laptops and they both got incredibly warm while under a light load

You can have good build quality and durableness

Yeah. Doesn't contradict what I said in any way

And I have one that idles on the 30s and I can't get over 65 °C at full load with no throttling even when I cover the vents, and it has a 35W processor. I'm guessing it really depends on the model :^)

had nothing but good experiences with acer and MSI, snowflake

Okay, but their build quality is objectively poor even if it wasn't an issue to you.

i'll concede that, feels like cheap plastic, but it's not really a huge issue if you take care of your property

Can I get anything good if my budget's around $600?

If something feels good to use and is durable, then I would say that makes it a better laptop.

Best: MacBook Pros
Worst: Thinkpads.

There's only crap when buying new at that price range
Used thinkpad, elitebook, Microsoft surface or so would be your best bet.

the plastic on my $1500 water cooled 1080 ti feels cheap desu senpai

Worst: HannStar, Wistron

Product-lines and manufacturing-year matter more than the brand themselves. None of them have been consistent in quality.

Pick hightier vaio or mac.
Any other brand needs to do some serious marketing.

Is there a common opinion about clevo laptops?

Especially those with the aluminium chassis?

Bad: HannStar, Foxconn, Quanta, Compal, Asustek, Inventec and Wistron
Good: none

It's a cheap plastic enclosure and fan. You aren't handling it constantly, travelling with it, or resting your palms on it, so it doesn't matter how it feels.

This.

*outthrottle

i still have my clevo laptop to this day way back 2008 and currently using it as mini home media server
only gripe with this one is the ambominable idle temps(i get 54 degrees on idle for no reason, it has decent cooling on it)

I've had ThinkPad-esque experiences with HP. They're very hit-or-miss.

you reapplied paste / dusted the inside?

I (130kilo, that's about 260 retard weight units) slipped on some stairs in the winter with nothing but my acer notebook in my backpack, fell with all my weight on it, on the edge of the step and then slid down the stairs on my back a few meters.
No damage. I want to see that happening to a MacBook. It would be bent right to fuck. For many forms of abuse, plastic is much better than metal.

Even back when that was true, it was caused by horrible dried thermal paste and fans full with dust.
Just look at the temps I get on pic related after cleaning it, and this is under full load

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The worst laptops you can get are HP consummer lines. Every time I've heard about a broken laptop it's been an HP.

>hp (((pavilion))))
>dv7

you haven't had enough experience with huawei to judge them so harshly

It was the shittiest build for me. Keyboard connector right underneath the keyboard and so short, it's impossible to reconnect it without holding the keyboard above the mobo.

Lenovo or Asus. Avoid anything else.

Most, if not all, consumer lines are janky as fuck regardless of manufacturer. That's the cost of making shit as affordable as possible.

If you want to criticize a brand, criticize it for the shortcomings of its top-shelf models.

Asus in my experience is super crappy. Much worse than acer, spec wise, quality wise and expandability wise.

>no one mentioned the best brand yet
Still have my l500d-16q from 2010. Still works. Upgraded HDD and CPU, added RAM

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>Shit tier
Acer, HP, Lenovo (consumer line), Microsoft, Toshiba, Samsung, LG, Razer

>Meh tier
Dell (consumer line), Asus, Apple, Lenovo (new T/X/W, all L/E), MSI

>Great tier
Dell Latitude/Precision, Lenovo (old T/X/W, new P, A), Clevo, high end Sony Vaio (RIP)

Haven't had sufficient experience with Huawei and Xiaomi laptops, although based on my experience with their phones I don't have high expectations. But a lot of people seem to really like the MateBook X, so maybe I could be surprised.

>Even back when that was true
I still have a problem with HP laptops. Our company buys both Latitudes and Elitebooks, and while /tpg/ may like the Elitebook I cannot say I am a fan. They comprise about 40% of our fleet but account for 8 in 10 of the problems I need to deal with. If the consumer models are even worse, then I'd say they still suck.

I remember at least 25% of the first-year students had a DV7 or some other Pavilion variant when I went off to university, and at least half of them had failed within 2 years due to the severe overheating issues (girls using them on comforters probably didn't help). Those people then all bought Macs and proceeded to spout the "it just werks" meme and talk about how PCs were all shit. I don't mind Macs, but saying that they're better because you cheaped out and had a shit experience with a low-end product from a competing platform just seems like a lazy thought process to me.

Not even larping but I bought a Asus before college in those 4 years it broke 6 times and I had to send it in to get repaired. It was free every time except one time where they tried to charge me 500 but I got it down to 250. The frist 3 times they gave me shitty refurb models that broke in 6 months. Then I paid 250 and i got a refurb that broke in like 3 weeks and I complained to random people i found online that were assocaited and high up. Then i got a free new laptop that broke in like 7 months then a refurb that had keys not working and now my current one.

I might be missing one or two I think I could fill out their repair request paperwork in my sleep. I know Jow Forums meme's about build quality alot but asus's is fucking horrendous.

I think an XPS 13 with a MX150 would be my ideal notebook

I never payed for one but working in advertising and publicity gave me an insight on why people love MacBook Pro. It's like the memes say, they "just werks". Out of the box its a charm to use, don't have to play around with settings or tweaking around the software to have a good experience. It's all done, you get what you pay for. I mean the agency pays for my equipment so thankfully I never had to spend a buck on them but still I would never got back to my old Asus laptop that I used in college when studying graphic design.

worst: lenovo
best: lenovo

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Best: Macbook Pros and other Apple machines. Gaming laptops, and Chromebooks are usually good.
Worst: Older used laptops from businesses, like thinkpads and dells and other unreliable stuff that's dirt cheap for a reason.

I've worked with macs a few years now and I absolutely cannot imagine anyone accepting yet alone liking working with them. Getting my clients two android apps built and uploaded takes about 2 minutes - the ios versions take at least 2 hours, usually (because the build chain is broken beyond compare) multiple days. Apple tries so hard to keep the "its magic" feel going, that the underlying mechanisms are so obfuscated you have to use the slow, unreliable and unstable tools Apple provides.

My Satellite battery and optical drive died so fast.

I want a light laptop with good processor and a lot of memorry

Can someone reccomend me something?

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>HP

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Best: IBM/Lenovo X and T series.

Worst: Compaq.

macbook air

HP consumer grade laptops are shit tier, Toshiba is shit, ASUS laptops are shit too..

alldocube / cube.

The best chinker for quality.

Zbooks are the best workstations you'll find except maybe Dell Precision.

They both offer good support for business end but HP Dreamcolor shits on everyone if you're looking for a good screen. HP's elitebook business line is also topnotch and one of the few lines to feature a (700 nit) screen usable in daylight.

Their consumer laptops are about average and seems to have improved in reliability in recent years according to consumer report. Otherwise they're sort of middling, Dell has a better but more expensive high-end. Mid-range idk.

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macbook air has neither of the requirements

Before 2017/2018 HP was a total shit. Have 2015 HP Envy notebook, and it is heating like crazy. The cooling and layout are pretty shitty. Can't play anything, but Runescape on it.

Is the ryzen thinkpad any good? The e485, the HP envy seems nice but its fucking 15 inches...

Thinkpad W530 with 32gb RAM

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best - HP
worst - Acer

Is this the most aesthetic laptop yet created?

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How many acers did you own / work with and when?
I had three, all pretty good, robust and easy to repair / upgrade.
I don't get the acer hate apart from the early models.

Is the xiaomi laptop good?

Best is dell, my 7 year old laptop still runs fine and holds a charge.

worst is HP.
>"look at all my features, you totally need a touch screen! and fingerprint scanner"
>multiple hardware failures in less than 4 years
>won't hold a charge

HP is shit, anyone that says otherwise is a shill or is a regular facebook user.

What's so bad in touch screen? Especially when the laptop is convertible?

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>look up small form factor budget laptops
>they're all chromebooks
>the only other alternative I've found is an used or refurbished x230t

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bitch shut the fuck up

>best
Dell, Thinkpads, apple
>worst
everything

New Acer is actually pretty decent

I don't know whats worse. The big amount of muslims in Europe or the big amount of Apple fags on this board.

>What's small? There are 13" and 14" laptops and smaller ones were substituted by tablets.

Good brands:
Lenovo, Dell, Apple, Acer

Shit:
HP, Chromebooks, surface, etc.

>best
idk
>worst
definitely acer

Only reasonable answer

I want a clevo that's around 1k, has a removable battery, ryzen CPU with AMD graphics for muh linux drivers, 2 slots for SSDs, a 2.5" bay and a removable disk drive for a total of 4 storage options, a decent 15" 1080p display and good build quality.
Why is this so hard to get in 2018?

what model do you have? I've had two pavilions. The first was the 17" model from 2014, and had AMD hardware in it. It had an A8-6410, Radeon R5 Graphics, 12gb RAM. My current one is the 13" x360 with i3-6100U and 6gb Ram. Both run hot and are fairly loud.

>>worst
>definitely acer
Ackshually.

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Toshiba is literally the worst laptop manufacturer

>using a laptop for heavy lifting
ayyyy lmao

Will they ever release Ryzen version?

Apple breakages being estimated at 10% isn't that impressive considering how babied those status symbols must be.

>survey
vs
>hard data on ACTUAL warranty claims

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And considering the average laptop price is $500.

yes

Agtually

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outside of QC issues, new lenovo is actually going in a nice directions.

after the disaster of the Tx40 and Tx50 with the trackpad and the adaptive keyboard shit, it looked like lenovo was just gonna go to hell but look at where it is now.

they're even cutting down on their obnoxious lenovo branding on the lid.

user, you can't observe "performance" when the only thing you do is browsing furry porn.
Meanwhile I do full-stack web dev and app development on my ThinkPad T460s (i5, Nvidia, 8Gb RAM) and a late 2017 15" MBP the company gave me. "Performance-wise" ThinkPad works much better despite supposedly having inferior hardware AND despite Xcode being far lighter than Android Studio.

god they're fucking atrocious. I've never met someone who had a pleasant experience with a Toshiba machine. Had a couple of them in an office I used to work for and they were more prone to shitting the bed than any other piece of technology in the office, by far.

>macshit
>performance

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I want to buy an inexpensive laptop with great battery life. It will run OpenBSD. What should I get for under $200?

>inb4 blue board

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god i wish that were me