/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Learn how to build a PC
Search youtube for a build guide for your socket
>How to install Win7 on new CPUs
pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1

Want help?
>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build
>List your uses - e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g. photo editing, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
>Don't use Speccy, you retard. Use HWinfo, SIV, etc.

Overclocking
>Use PBO on Ryzen. Legacy overclocking is defunct on Ryzen 2#00X CPUs. youtube.com/watch?v=FC3fsVk9Sss

CPUs
>R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming (dGPU optional)
>R5 2400G - Consider IF on sale
>R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs
>i7-8700K - Best for 1080p gaming, but most expensive when factoring in delid, high-end cooler, etc.
>R7 2700/X - Best high-end gaming/mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform
>Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT

Motherboards
>Only Z300 series Intel boards can utilize fast memory

RAM
>8GB - Enough for most gaming use
>16GB - Standard for heavy use
>32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this much
>Current CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal

Graphics cards
1080p
>RX 570/580 /w Freesync or 1060 6GB are standard 1080p 60fps+ options
>1050Ti or RX560 for lower settings 1080p, or older games
>GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 if seeking higher fps & you have a CPU + monitor to match
1440p
>Vega 56 /w Freesync, 1070Ti if you already have Gsync
>GTX 1080Ti if seeking higher fps & you have a CPU + monitor to match
2160p(4K)
>Titan V
OpenCL work
>Vega 64

Storage
>Consider StoreMi
>Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD
>2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB
>M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard

Monitors
>Always consider FreeSync with AMD cards
>Lock to 72fps on 144hz non-Gsync monitors with Nvidia cards to prevent tearing on more demanding games
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING

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uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/byfQGG
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uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6yQcRJ
uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/wX7CmG/gskill-flare-x-series-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c14d-16gfx
amazon.com/gp/product/B00VRCLHYS
linustechtips.com/main/topic/631048-psu-tier-list-updated/
moddiy.com/categories/Cables/
ebuyer.com/749711-msi-gtx-1080-armor-oc-8gb-gddr5x-graphics-card-gtx-1080-armor-8g-oc
ebuyer.com/791241-evga-550w-b3-psu-80-bronze-fully-modular-power-supply-220-b3-0550-v3
cpubenchmark.net/cpu_value_available.html
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

Rate my $2000 CAD High-End build before i pull the trigger

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Want to upgrade this 2013 build.
Will still use my case, drive, cooler (212 evo), gpu, and the same monitor.
So only want to upgrade the motherboard, cpu, and ram. Have a budget of 300 - 400 british bongs.

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Will also use my tx850 power supply.

PCPartPicker part list: uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/byfQGG


CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (£187.19 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler (£69.74 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard (£119.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Team - Dark Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£218.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£76.79 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£34.74 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card (£364.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower Case (£75.59 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£91.70 @ Amazon UK)

Total: £1239.71

Planning to play new 1080p games +60FPS. Only for gaming and general usage. Budget is £1,300. I was thinking of getting the S340 Mid Tower Case instead but wasn't too sure. Thank you.

PCPartPicker part list:

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3GHz 8-Core Processor (£166.79 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£44.25 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£73.19 @ Aria PC)
Total: £284.23

uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Kk8bCb

I need to build a computer for my father:
>he uses a 4K Monitor
>most of the time photoshop and facebook
>maybe lightroom
>maybe lossy compression of several GB of 4K videos per month
>60h of uptime per week
>should be silent to make it more expensive
>He is a heavy smoker and he never cleans his pc
>Budget: It's better when it's expensive because this purchase is deductible from income tax.
What should I buy/build ?

>single channel ram

Get 2 sticks in dual channel or you could suffer from stutters and shit in games.

I'd get this
uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6yQcRJ
Or a 2600, a B450-A Pro (weaker VRMs) or a B450 Gaming Pro Carbon and a 2x8GB B-Die kit (it'll overclock more than the other kit)
uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/wX7CmG/gskill-flare-x-series-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c14d-16gfx

I like that the colours of the RAM/SSD/case/Monitor match

forgot to mention, im going with 16GB 14 Cas ram, getting 2 extra fans, a case with more airflow [ similar aesthetic ] but i prefer the g2 PSU over the g3 since the extra space it saves is not necessary

I will eventually buy another stick of 8gb ram, so I'll use 16gb @ 2x8.

144hz is really nice and fluid, you will cum several times a day.
Jesus, 570 bucks for a 1070, I bought the founders edition 1080 Ti for 769, todays GPU pricing is a joke.
Buy 1TB SSD instead of 0,5 TB SSD and 1 TB HDD.
If you are not overclocking go straight for the Fractal R6 for a more silent computing experience.

Looks great but I'd avoid ACX GPUs from EVGA, they were prone to cause housefires

amazon.com/gp/product/B00VRCLHYS
Anyone got strong opinions on this monitor? Planning to buy it since it fits my needs but I'd rather ask around first
gonna be using it for gaming, usually ~100-110Hz, using a 1080

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (£187.19 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B450M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£76.50 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£147.59 @ Aria PC)
Total: £411.28

4K video = atleast GTX 1060 (for CUDA and NVENC) with ryzen 2700.
Cheapest 400 series mobo you can find.
Ram has to be atleast 3000mhz since ryzen likes fast ram.
Get Fractal case for silence and they have very good dust filters for smokers, also dont go with white case it will turn yellow
.. or Plan B:
Buy vaping gear for your dad to make him quit smoking cigarettes.

Is this sensible? Should I lay it on its side? Should I swap the bottom fan and the lower side panel fan?
All inputs are filtered. Side panel fans are 140mm, bottom fan is 140mm low profile because of PSU cables. All others are 120mm.
First time build, pls be gentle.

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>GPU prices are falling
>ram prices are not
What the fuck is going on?

looks like a kino setup

Acer Veriton M4630G:

i7-4770
(2+2)+4Gb DDR3 1600 MHz
Sata 7.2K Rpm
970 Strix

(Original) Delta Electronics 350w 80+Bronze
(New) Corsair CX550m 80+ Bronze

Plug both power supplies into a surge suppressor to sync the boot

Pc powers on when i flip the switch, both psu starts with no problem, cpu fan spins, strix led goes on and fans start up but cease movement after a few seconds

The power button from the front panel stays blue the whole time

It doesn't turn off unless i cut the power from the source

it doesn't show anything on the monitor and peripherals doesn't turn on either

Did the bios *beep* test just getting a long one, searching it the only answer i get is that "POST has passed all tests"

I have no idea what should i do now pls help ;_;

take out all the memory sticks and try to boot with only one.

How much is that in real dollars? You can get a 1080 for 550 real dollars

I don't quite understand, you use both PSUs at the same time for the same computer? What do you have plugged in to what?

>bottom fan is exhaust basically acting against bottom side intake
gay and homosexual

I use the cx550 for the 970 and the delta for the rest

Try using the CX550 only

its in cad, so probably like $470 american

Thanks, senpai.
The two on the bottom left are exclusive to the PSU. I forgot to mention that the PSU isn't open to the rest of the system.

I need an adapter to 12pin that i ordered from china but it won't come until late september but i need this pc for my work right now

you think that could be it?

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>two side window intake
>bottom fan is exhaust
>lower side window intake gets fucked with by current produced by bottom
Make bottom fan succ not blow

Yeah, I'd have the bottom fan as intake, too. It would help better cool the furnace that is the 390X by drawing in cool air to blow upwards to the GPU, or so I imagine.

I'd get rid of the top intake and maybe the bottom exhaust, as intake it'll work better as mentioned above but the ones from the side panel should be enough

Top intake is retarded unless it's a radiator with all fans sucking air in. I'd remove the intake fan altogether on the front top and retain just the rear and top-rear fan, The top intake in your diagram will interfere with your front intake

What should I look for in a power supply? Meme japanese capacitors?

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>but the ones from the side panel should be enough
>390x
>anything being ever enough
lel

Look up tier 1 PSUs. My RM750X is king tier, get any of the tier 1s that fit your aesthetic requirement.

Start with the wattage necessary for your build, then get at least 80+ Bronze efficiency or better. Consider semi- or full modularity (being able to detach cables you don't use).

When you find something that looks promising, read reviews. Jonnyguru is good and thorough, and I think I've seen HardOCP recommended for PSU reviews too. Some good PSUs might not have a review on these sites, you're on your own for those.

>IT office at my job is planning on throwing away 100+ 500GB WDBlue HDDs
>most of them only 2-3 years old
what's better, trying to grab a handful of these and taking up all the slots in my build or not being a jew and just buying a single 2TB?
it's not like I'd even be able to sell them individually for much

Kinda want the GPU heat to have an outlet. Should I swap the bottom side panel and bottom fans or just go bottom intake?
Also I'm considering extending the backplate with plastic to separate it into CPU circuit and GPU circuit; there's only two inches of clearance anyway.
That wasn't me btw. Should I ditch the fan there or swap it to exhaust? The GPU is literally halfway up the front intake.

linustechtips.com/main/topic/631048-psu-tier-list-updated/

Wouldn't a case with a PSU shroud and PSU bottom intake just make the airflow in the case worse?
I fail to see the point other than "aesthetics".

Does zotac use low quality capacitors?

ASUS, or MSI cards, or what exactly?

I'm going to pull the trigger really soon and I don't know which GTX 1080 to pick. I've been thinking about the MSI GeForce GTX 1080 GAMING X 8GB GDDR5X, is it ok?

I'm thinking a Fractal Define R6 case. Got a Noctua on the 2700x and a Zotac AMP Extreme in there. Haven't been able to bench anything yet, but does anyone have a similar set up that don't use AIO?

I want to stick to an air build but am not sure if I should start trying to make the case fly away or people have made temps fine stock/little modding.

The 1100 series will be out in like 20 days haha

you miss spelled "CHAD" wrong user

Was the MSI lightning 1080 ti a big hit? I really like the look and was wondering if a 11xx ti version would be something to look out for in the distant future.

So?

The increase in performance won't be massive anyway.

I'll repost from the last thread, go for the CL14 kit if you can afford it. The MX500 and the X470 Gaming Plus are cheaper (worse VRMs and lacks voltage offset, it should be fixed with a BIOS update). Consider the Meshify C or the Enthoo Pro M for more airflow and a Supernova G3 or a Focus Gold Plus

But the decrease in price will be

im def going with the cl14, and an enthoo pro m case for more air flow

i prefer a g2 over a g3 powersupply, i dont see much to gain and i prefer a bigger psu so its snug in the case

im looking at the MX500 X470 mobos, im just concerned they wont be able to utilize the full 3200mhz of the ram

edit, the mx500 is a SSD lol , price value seems similar here in moose land - any benefit to switching to crucial from a samsung ssd?

Would upgrading to a 1700x from a fx 8350 be worth it? Can't afford going to the 2600x.

Do I sell my gtx 1070 now before it drops price?

>the decrease in price
I'll believe it when I see it.

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Even A320 boards can handle overclocking the memory so you shouldn't have issues, especially with B-Die
Just the price, the MX500 is slightly slower

alright il look into the mobo, the SSD MX500 is $25 cheaper, im assuming its the same speed

Thanks for your suggestions, im glad i double checked with this thread before hand :)

What about the 2600? The 1700X is great but for gaming the second generation is preferable

The trick is for you to wait.
The prices won't decrease but the temptation to pay more for a brand new card will weight on you

moddiy.com/categories/Cables/
They have a bunch of adaptor cables here, mainly for modding OEM towers, but still.

Check out benchmarks.
1700x at 4ghz is pretty much a 2700x

the thing that sucks about waiting, is sure this "X" new product will come out in a few months, it will cost more and will only improve by 10% at best

or you could get this "Y" product now, its battle tested and will cost 80% of "X" without having to eternally wait, sure you sacrifice 10% of power but by avoiding being a first adopter you save significantly

Why don't you try getting 2nd hand?

>Kinda want the GPU heat to have an outlet.
nigger the GPU has an outlet. It sucks air inside the case to the outside of the case
>I'm considering extending the backplate with plastic to separate it into CPU circuit and GPU circuit
No. You'll needlessly isolate parts of your motherboard/case.
> Should I ditch the fan there or swap it to exhaust?
Ditch

No problem. It's a bit slower but it's hard to notice, if it's for a workstation you might notice the difference more than on loading times from games. The Strix X470-F is close to having the best VRMs on X470 (the Crosshair VII and Aorus Gaming 7 beat it) but it's $250 over there, the Prime X470-Pro or the Gaming Plus would be enough

What a meme. Why don't you try getting one of those Jedi cards instead

i used to build computers that were triple their value if bought OEM from scouring kijiji for hours a day

but this will be my first time getting OEM parts, i know im paying 30% needlessly but i wont have to mix and match parts just because this one piece was super cheap


my current $300 build plays GTA V on medium at 60fps, but im bottlenecked by every single unit in the build and ive run out of room to upgrade

So you gonna just toss it and start a fresh? Probably best. I plan on doing a that

Is delidding an i7 8700k necessary, or am I going to be fine as long as I don't OC it to 5GHz?

Also, what about the typical PSU? I've calculated that this setup gives me around 450W when nothing is OC'd, would you recommend a 600W PSU for OCing? I'm probably going to be aiming for at least 4.8GHz with my i7.

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>or am I going to be fine as long as I don't OC it to 5GHz?
You'll probably be fine, but if you're not going to OC to 5ghz why not get the 2700x and save yourself $50+a platform that isn't dead? The *only* advantage intel is the fact that their CPUs OC very well. Otherwise AMD is more secure, cheaper and has more threads.

buying a 8700k isnt necessary and is retarded

I am going to OC, just not to 5ghz since it's the first time I do it for a CPU. I'll probably try 4,8Ghz or something safer for the start.

That's what I've heard, but then again there's also the other side of the audience who tell me that getting an 8600K is retarded and an i7's hyper-threading will have it live longer. My mind is set at this point.

Can I leave less than month old thermal paste? I don't have any fancy de-pasting equipment and I'd hate to fuck shit up.

Want to upgrade to ryzen 1st or 2nd gen, can switch everything over minus the mobo and ram.
Have a £300 budget, can maybe stretch it to £325. Want 16gb of ram eventually, but will only be able to buy 8gb at first.

(am installing new cooler, if that wasn't obvious)

Also, are the b450/x470 motherboards absolutely necessary for 2nd gen ryzen? Because if they're not, I can get the 300 series motherboards for much less money.

>minus the mobo and ram
How come? Isn't everything compatible, given you update bios?

I am on an am3 chipset.
I want to upgrade to ryzen. 1st gen or 2nd gen, depending on which will be best value for money.

What's the goto poorfag CPU right now?

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It's an open cooler doe. If I go all inlet, will the air go out through the rear grills (my pci slot covers have holes)?

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Oh, I read
>from 1st gen to 2nd gen
This makes more sense. Also, the 3xx mobos need to have up-to-date bios for 2nd gen, you'll have to make whoever's selling it has done that for you/they already got it that way.

ebuyer.com/749711-msi-gtx-1080-armor-oc-8gb-gddr5x-graphics-card-gtx-1080-armor-8g-oc

find a tiny bit cheaper psu

The part of the card where you lewdly stick all the DP/HDMI/DVI/(not vga, RIP) cables in have holes in it yes?

I can get a AB350 mobo, 1800x, and 3000mhz ram for £300.

ebuyer.com/791241-evga-550w-b3-psu-80-bronze-fully-modular-power-supply-220-b3-0550-v3

Not ebuyer shill honest

>the armor series has le bad thermals meme
I don't know where this came from, but my 1080 Armor OC rarely goes to 100% fan even why gayman and goes 0% about the third of the time while mining shitcoins
Also get one of those $8 piece of metal that you screw in your case to avoid GPU sag

Why are memory prices so ridiculous?

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Is the Corsair 200r case any good. I hear it's pretty decent from what I've read

Because cartels.

Because Miners + Greedy Executives = Bullshit

cpubenchmark.net/cpu_value_available.html
I'd go with the 2200g. 4 cores 4 threads. Works well.

>I have one
>it's so cheap
>no mesh
>so much dust

would it be better to get high-end workstation parts from a few years ago (ex. Xeon) or to get standard consumer parts from today (ex. i5/ryzen 5)

Old workstation stuff has a pretty bad performance per watt and no upgrade path. It's only worth it if you can get it for really cheap.

HDD resonated like a motherfucker, when it was at the top (now it's ok though). Also dust as the other user said. When suspended, it blinks quite brightly, you'll want to cover that up if you sleep anywhere near. Those are about the only negatives, overall I'm mostly satisfied.

my old builds were always based off getting high-end parts that were at the end of their upgrade path

sure you get a good bang for your buck, but its like buying an old race horse, shes got a few wins left in her but your going to have to put her down the minute something goes wrong

I miss you o'l Faithful....

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How do I find a b350 or x370 mobo with bios updated for ryzen 2xxx series?

Thoughts on this?

>inb4 i3 8350k is cancer
you're a faggot it was free fight me

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