HDDs are depre-
HDDs are depre-
>seagate
that shit would fail in a week
>youtube
eww... no thanks
I have a working Seagate from 2008.
Fuck off shill
>Seagate/Toshiba dies within weeks
>WD dies within months
>Samsung dies within decade
Hitachi/HGST just won't die
I have a working Seagate from 2005.
Only one bad block in its history. Was used in a company continuously for years.
Where did the seagate is bad meme come from? I'm pretty sure they have a slightly higher failure rate than hitachi and wd.
They had a really bad batch in 2012 or something and now retards hate on them. They are fine now.
Mostly idiots who bought cheap rejects off ebay that failed QC
The only HDDs ive ever had fail on me was a WD black and a old segate barracuda. Toshiba and samsung have been reliable for general storage. Not sure about hitachi, never had the chance to use any.
HDDs won't be deprecated until SSDs cost $30 per terabyte.
Great, more failure points.
>They are fine now.
It doesn't help that they give stupid low duty cycle ratings for their staple line, the Barracuda. Come on now, 44TB read/write per year before it sinks the annual failure rate? What the fuck is that?
>Toshiba
I bought a 3TB P300 a month ago. Had to return it because the drive had already recorded mechanical failures within a week of use. Was offered a replacement from the same batch, NOPE. Won't be buying again anytime soon.
as much as i hate American Muscle cars, i can't claim that their V8's have higher failure rates because of the more cylinders. Sure, there's more points of failure, but that is hardly enough to state a products quality.
It's not really a meme.
The thing that kills HDD's more than anything is Heat. The more HDD you have, the more heat you generate. Temps over 60c is bad. SSD's will never beat HDD in terms of raw storage capacity in the price per GB/TB scale. (Plus I don't see any 12TB SSD's floating around anywhere, and even if they existed, you'd pay a hell of a price to get them vs a 12TB HDD). Then you got improper usage. A desktop class drive is not made for 24/7 server usage. So when people use them in server's and they die after "x" yrs, well duh. Course they will, cause in a desktop, it don't run 24/7 every day. So the drive will last longer.
Some of the sample sizes here seem too small to make comparisons. The WDC30EFRX drive seems to be the most unreliable given they have less than 20,000 days.
>The thing that kills HDD's more than anything is Heat.
Only true for drives packed like sardines into backplanes, ie server equipment. Lone drives don't need any serious cooling, and if Google's study is accurate, cooling them too much is actually worse.
Bathtub curve.
Some portion of drives will be DOA or fail very early on. You really have to ignore anything with that little sample time.
So... when is this technology gonna start selling those drives? How much will they cost?
when are they gonna start selling drives with this technology**
(immm autism sorry)
i've RMA'd 3 seagate 4tb drives and i sure as shit don't trust #4
>shitgate
didn’t even bother watching that
Cool story from 2005
just look at that disgusting rust
>They are fine now.
But I had a bad experience with two disks of theirs and I won't trust them again.
Can confirm. Literally had this happen to me years ago due to Seagate knowingly shipping the drives with faulty firmware that bricked it under a common scenario. They denied it then confirmed it then told people they had to pay for return shipping to get it fixed. I called those niggers up and told them I'm going to take their drive outside and drill through it with a titanium tipped drill bit and I'll never buy their shit again if they didn't cover the cost. They said no. I took a titanium drill bit to it and laugh anytime I see their shit on sale as I'll never buy it. I also ensured to convince many other friends to never buy their shit.
Fuck seagate, toshiba and wd. I won't buy them again.
>2018
>they only figred this out in twenty fucking eighteen
WOW
Actuators never fail.
It's always surface defects on the platters losing sectors and shit. The actuators are literally made of one bearing and one electric magnet - nothing to fail there.
They knowingly shipped a bad batch with firmware that bricked the drive. They denied it. Then someone confirmed it. Then they had the audacity to tell people to pay for shipping to/from for a fix. $100 drive that would cost you $30 to/from 30% of drive cost for something they fucked up on. Beyond that, their drives are loud and shit and have seasonal problems throughout their whole lineup.
>I also ensured to convince many other friends to never buy their shit.
Same here. Only hitachi/hgst and samsung as external
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I wonder if internal RAID modes are possible with this. Externally it looks like any normal disk but the actual platter/actuator sets inside each act as their own disk
Toshiba are also now ok as a cost effective variant of HGST, but HGST are the best by far. Just recieved a Toshiba P300, hope I didn't get a lemon.
Multi-actuators exist since the 90s or so. The tech is now advanced enough to implement it reliably.
ITT
Enjoy your lemon.
>bearings never fail
>two bearings won't fail more often
Stop breathing anytime.
>Hitachi/HGST just won't die
The first HDD that died on me, was a Hitachi one.
Have a 2TB from 2010 with 500+ day uptime and several overwrites still going strong. I lucked out when they were $80 a drive.
>actuators have bearings
maybe it's you who should stop breathing anytime
First time seeing that chart I came to the same conclusion. Problem is retards don't understand how to interpret data. Reminds me of that gpu (or cpu) performance chart that has a literal 1% improvement but the chart is zoomed in to make it seem like there 4 to 5 times more efficient.
What's the deal with HGST? They're cheap as fuck and supposedly last forever but I read that you can only buy them new in massive bulk orders and the ones you see on amazon have been used for years.