Digital Audio Workstation

>Torrenting Reaper

It has a full featured demo that never expires, retard.

>Have you ever tried to use a non-Linux DAW by Wine?
Ardour is not good enough for you? It's good enough for me.

You tell me lies

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Is it worth to pirate any paid one?

I use FL Studio under wine with Arch Linux on KDE Plasma, and I switch depending on the need at the time, I also use Audacity and LMMS.

I'd like to use Windows only for FL Studio, only because Sylenth1 updated and my copy gives me an error after I scan for plugins.
(Yes, I paid for Sylenth1).

ok

Just download the trial. It's fully featured and nothing stops you from using it after the trial period ends.

old cubase sx 2.0 and cool edit where my favorite daws. i use reaper and ableton now tho.
and i dont think you have use wine for a good daw in linux, as reaper has an official port

Why use so many things? Ardour and Reaper are also avalible on Linux

Cockos REAPER v5.93 Incl Patch and Keygen-R2R

The demo never expires and there are no restrictions. Just a 5 second nag prompt that you're being a jew for not buying it when it starts up. And not even every time it starts up, just once you start it every few hours.

Ableton. Bitwig is also pretty nice
No things look more complicated and troublesome on linux

Is Reaper better than FL Studio or Cubase?

Better is subjective when it comes to DAWs these days. They're all basically great, some maybe slightly better in some aspects than others. Some say Reaper's MIDI features are lackluster compared to that of Ableton's, I personally work with a shit-ton of MIDI within Reaper and have no complaints.

Reaper is by far the most feature-rich DAW, and out-of-the-box the least user-friendly. That said, it's the most customizable, so if you spend a bit of time changing it, you can literally make it the most tailored-to-your-workflow and user-friendliest piece of software on your machine.

Depends a lot what you're using it for.

Ah, I see.

Well it'll be used for helping a friend out with their game music. I might enter with FL Studio but learn Reaper along the way if it's better for it.

Thoughts on LMMS?

I've been using Ardour, although MIDI is a pain.

Is that Studio One? Cause I used version 2 long ago and it's been my favorite even if I've moved on to Linux.

You get what you pay for.

it works well, this isn't 2008 anymore boomer

Fruity loops to make my epic trap beats

In my opinion it works well once you learn how to use it. Working with external audio (ex. voice tracks) is absolute fucking ass right now though, and I think that's one of their biggest problems. Better audio tools would make a giant difference.
I've made some nice electronic music with it though, and it works well for that.

Go back to your containment board

Logic Pro X when I'm on a Mac
Fruity Loops on Windows

renoise + reaper

the old standards (cubase, cakewalk) are poos by comparison, though it's been a while admittedly. renoise and reaper are cheap enough and do everything I need (non pro hobbyist guitarist)

Logic Pro X is undoubtably the best DAW on the market right now, unfortunately it's literally the ONLY reason to ever use OSX.
Studio One is a great alternative if you don't want to buy a mac or have a hackintosh dual boot system.

Logic Pro is the most complete one. It's crazy to think you pay $200 (or pirate it) and get all those crazy stock synths and libraries.

You can do everything faster in Ableton though. It comes down to preference, but I do like to take my time.

Yeah, no. Audio Engineering is more Jow Forums. /mu/ is for discussing garbage music other people make.

lol no. If you don't touch instruments you're not making music.

Ableton. If you're going linux try bitwig or reaper

we found the boomer lmao

>what is a mechanical keyboard

DAWs can record traditional instruments too even your lute grandpa

>go back to /mu/
but user, DAWs have many uses, their function and audio engineering in general is in large part Jow Forums related and not strictly /mu/
>LOL UR NOT MAKING MUSIC THEN
Right, user, we're on Jow Forums
You okay bud?

Hope you don't mind me shilling the /prod/ general on /mu/
If you're into music production of any kind, please consider coming to discuss it with us.

Did anybody try working with Max8 (or whatever is integrated in Live 10)?

Is the performance increase as significant as they make it to be?

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>Reaper is by far the most feature-rich DAW, and out-of-the-box the least user-friendly.
Reaper does not even come close to Cubase when it comes to features

where's my Reason niggas at

One time I used LMMS.

I've been using OpenMPT running in wine for nearly 10 years now

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live's max 8 is just max 7 with a few tweaks and the performance is a bit worse than native max due to it being ran from live

renoise

as an aside, hardware sequencers have no business being so fucking expensive

hw seqs literally cater to old musicians who are afraid of computers
its the boomer tax

i only ever see people go in the direction of DAW -> hardware sequencer. and it makes sense: mouse and keyboard aren't tailor-made for the sequencing of music.

I want to use reaper but I dont know enough about linux yet to install wine

don't bother, reaper's piano roll is pure clunk and the floating vst window issues still haven't been fixed because it doesn't personally bother the developer

So, Ardour doesn't seem like a full DAW compared to FL Studio, even less, reaper, but I may have not given it enough of a chance.

I'm so used to the workflow on FL Studio.

people afraid of computers think they need hw seqs for live performances, and most of the time they used them as glorified midi triggers

Using a crack for a software that doesn't have copy protection is moronic.

Can't you even wait for 5 seconds?

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click click click click click click click click click click click click click

Seems user friendly, should I just go get a Linux native daw instead?

it's a good piece of software despite a few irritating things

if i were stuck on linux i'd just use renoise all the same

reaper has a semi official linux port
its not a good "first daw" though.

kek

it will be usable in 3-5 years if the project doesnt die
they should focus solely on a single platform tho

The king will take his throne

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t. Renard Queenston

Use ableton

/thread

FLStudio, workflow suits me.

what is literally the point of ableton vs any real daw like logic?

Well the algorithm, instruments, and tools are a little different. Ableton has a good UI and easy to create a workflow where you can get to making music fairly quick.

I know you're trolling, but Ableton has the best workflow, best sample manipulation, best sketching system (session view), best live playing capabilities, best hardware support, best video tutorials, best community, best real-time midi manipulation, racks, neat and ordered UI, best scripting system (all the power of Max, which is insane considering you don't even have to learn Max to use the thousands of available M4L devices to add functionality to the DAW like browser extensions), and best proprietary controller.

The real question is, why use other shitty inferior DAWs instead of switching to Ableton like everybody else?

max4live and using it live

sounds like ableton was your 1st daw

thats reasonable, but unless you are an actual live performer, its not a realistic usage case

>sounds like ableton was your 1st daw
Sounds like you're out of arguments.

>thats reasonable, but unless you are an actual live performer, its not a realistic usage case
Almost all life-playing features are well-integrated in the DAW so that you can have any kind of workflow and use them in your production as well.
For example the scene/clip launching system can be used to play or any kind of sample or midi clip by setting the follow action and playing it with a drumpad.
Or the midi effects that can be automated and modulated in any way to achieve creative effects.

>For example
the stuff you mention can be done on most modern daws via automation and scripting
ill grant you that ableton is easier, but its not like it has no learning curve either

>the stuff you mention can be done on most modern daws via automation and scripting
Where did I say it's the only DAW that can do it?
I just said it's the best at doing it, sicne you can do it much more easily and quickly than other DAWs (where you need scripting and automation for what you do with two clicks in Ableton).

Ableton's learning curve isn't that steep considering that it's only unintuitive compared to other DAWs, which have a workflow that's easier to understand initially, but it's less effective when you compare it with Ableton's.
Also, people who say that either never used Ableton or are lazy retards who can't even be bothered just watching an introductory 15min YouTube video (let alone the manual, god forbid!) that tells them where everything is and how the workflow works, expecting to become masters at a powerful professional program just "intuitively".

And it's a stupid argument anyway, because you're essentially comparing how DAWs are when you can't use them properly.
Of course I'm gonna assume you can use Ableton as well as you can use Logic or whatever else.
Arguing from any point other than after the curve has been climbed is just grasping at straws.

noob question but you have a 106 key keyboard, why not map each one of those keys to a button in the virtual sequencer?

>Ableton's learning curve isn't that steep considering that it's only unintuitive compared to other DAWs

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It means that the other ones are easier, but Ableton isn't hard.
In response to the guy saying that it has a learning curve.
Meaning that the learning curve is irrelevant because it doesn't make it significantly harder than other DAWs, but only slightly.

And to add to that, Ableton may be slightly harder to get started with, but once it clicks, everything becomes 10x easier and immediately intuitive, and going back to other DAWs makes producing feel like a chore.
And anything advanced is 10 times easier than anything else (thanks to M4L, racks, flexible workflow, routings, etc), while all the other DAWs, while easier to get into for basic stuff, make it much harder to make advanced stuff.
So the curve, however steep it might be, is worth it for anything that's not basic shit.

And don't get me wrong, Ableton has its fair share of downsides too, but weighing them against other DAWs, the overall best is definitely Ableton.

>life-playing features
faggot

kek my bad.

Why use LMMS?

What is then? I can run it on my windows machine if needed.

>real daw like logic
when has logic ever been taken seriously

FL Studio imo. I own Ableton and FL, but the piano roll for midi editing is superior in FL in every way.

There is any crack to the FL Studio 20 yet?

Because it's the closest to my workflow on FL Studio, it just looks ugly.

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I mean, if you are Why use LMMS when you already run FL on wine? Also, which version of FL Studio and which version of wine?

How do you guys get cool granular sampling out of ableton? Something akin to the elektron digitakt sampling, is there any way to set it up without using VSTs or max live? The Mangle VST is alright but I prefer using built in if there's a way to do it. I want to be able to keep the vibe going and not have to stop to edit the sample every time I want to reverse/forward,stutter/skitter, and time stretch.

Have you tried the free Granulator tool? Can't remember the dude who made it, Robert Henke maybe, but Ableton have it for free on their site. It's pretty great.

Pro Tools with 300gig of virtual analogue synths on Reasons and 250gig of apple exclusive samples on Logic X on a old MacBook suck 10.6 and 350gig of native interment samples use a 0.2ms mechanical keyboard as virtual keyboard and guitar hero drums running on win7 on another machine as MIDI.

It's neat but I can't reverse sections of the loop while playing without stopping and going into a separate sample editor to chop. Still missing that part which makes the granular sampling work flow on digitakt feel seamless and immediate.

Ableton is pretty comfy. Pro tools is overrated and is just used to polish a turd.

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Reaper recently added Linux support. It's not perfect yet but it will become better soon. If you'll use anything proprietary then it should be this.

How do I into Reaper? I've had it for a month and just can't understand the workflow.

Read the manual

I haven't touched it since long ago when it was still early in production. Does it work well with Jack?

Still using Impulse Tracker and ProTracker

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In Ableton Live right now
IMO different DAWs have different strengths. Pro Tools is good for recording, Live is good for electronic and sampled music, Fruity Loops is good for hip hop, Logic is good for instrument plugins and recording etc. That's just what I've seen.

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>is good for
Meant to say "is usually used for".

Sorry, autocorrect.