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Wtf I love China now
Jeremiah Allen
Ethan Powell
>chinese quarity crashes the market
>chinks now have a global monopoly on subpar shit
>probably embed spyware in them too
Ready the nukes
Wyatt Lopez
Label them currency manipulators and destroy their economy. I'm tired of cheap shit
John Ramirez
>ready the nukes
>all the parts are chinese with embedded spyware
RIP
Benjamin Bell
who ready for 16GB DDR5 sticks for $20 bucks like the good old days?
Eli Cox
GOOKS AND BURGERS BTFO
Evan Rivera
>Enormous part of local economy depends on micron
>Gooks make my already shit town even shittier
Oh good.
Colton Perez
>competition driving the price down
>this is bad somehow
You goddamned communists.
Matthew Lopez
>I'm tired of cheap shit
Asher Nelson
It's a real mental gymnastic talking point now.
nakedcapitalism.com
Easton Lee
>Jew
>doesn't want the cheapest shit
Dumbass
Bentley Miller
>need to buy 32gigs DDR4
>price is higher than CPU
China save us
Landon Morris
There are already chink DDR4s on the market. Highest they can go is 2133 but still
Nathan Moore
I don't wanna buy chinkshit, just waiting when they will push prices to more reasonable levels
Kayden Sanchez
I like how the media is trying to normalize cartel behavior now.
Sebastian Sullivan
>Doesn't want you to have cheap shit
>Wants to sell you expensive shit
You fucking mongoloids can't even read properly.
Matthew Thompson
I would never buy a chink CPU
Justin Cooper
>korean ram manufacturers collude on prices for a few years
>chinks take the bait
>enter into dram market
>koreans reduce prices to pre-collusion levels
>chinks have to compete with 16gb sticks for $20
>chinese government has to bail chink dram manufactures out
>koreans have their years of price fixing profit
>also get payback for china supporting north korea
>chinks stuck with expensive and unprofitable dram manufacturers
>everybody in the west gets backdoored memory
literally everybody loses in this scenario
Jose Hall
>chink subsidized low quality enter the markets
>companies cannot compete with chink lower wages, and subsidized companies
>quality drops across the board to compete with chinks.
late stage capitalism was a mistake
Cooper Morgan
Are you Sherlock Holmes?
Aiden Cox
I'm probably a bit autistic if that's what you're asking
Jack Sanders
memory manufacturing is literally 100% automated
Zachary Roberts
You're brain works in a wonderful way, my friend.
Jacob Wright
Will this even affect gpu prices? What about all the tariffs that are supposed to destroy electronics soon
Nathaniel Morris
it shouldn't affect gpu prices much if at all but ssds will come down in price
Benjamin Robinson
does not matter, chinks will cut corners chinks will be subsidized, and churn out lower quality components and fuck Koreans even if they price manipulate. The koreans will have to lower quality to chink standard to compete. Chink can lower quality standard + get government gibs.
Jayden Perry
Competition and innovation that drive prices down for consumers are great, but China just takes the asshole approach to everything. Through state-backed corporate espionage they rip off another company's R&D, then enter the market to produce cheaper DRAM because they didn't have to put in the investment to develop it.
nytimes.com
Sounds great.
Thomas Evans
>>chinese government has to bail chink dram manufactures out
>>koreans have their years of price fixing profit
As proven by the 2015 meltdown of the chink market the CCP bailed out, they don't care to bankroll the shit out of their private/state enterprises if they have some sort of future
And their bankroll it's WAY higher than anything the Koreans can muster, and the US won't bankroll Micron
>Through state-backed corporate espionage they rip off another company's R&D
This isn't anywhere near enough to replicate modern chips since decades ago, the Soviets/Russians couldn't clone microprocessors anymore past the early 90's, and the chinks haven't been able to clone modern CPU's to the point they had to develop indigenous architectures
They IP thefts they been doing do give them a bit of extra possibilities to compete, but they do have to put in their own R&D muscle
Kayden Rodriguez
you have an unhealthy obsession over china
Dylan Morgan
all information and technologies should be free
Jeremiah Fisher
t. lincucks commie
David Sanchez
>says the guy using free software
Jose Evans
>posts against china
>you have an unhealthy obsession
fuck off seething shill.
Nolan Morales
t. actual corporate welfare endorsing communist
Colton Mitchell
>state-controlled company undercuts the market by dumping even cheaper chinkshit
>other producers that aren't backed by a state have to compete with the financial power of the Chinese government
Yea sure, nice competition you got there.
Charles Long
If Korea wanted to destroy China's electronics industry they could've done it at any time they controlled the NAND, LCD, and DRAM industry. The Chinese electronics industry would borderline collapsed because no one would be able to assemble in China, and the western electronics assembly market was the entire catalyst for the Chinese electronics industry.
Levi Butler
being this afraid of china is unhealthy
Matthew Jackson
>company cartel corners the market by dumping even cheaper gookshit
>other producers that aren't colluding have to compete with the financial power of the Jewish conglomerates
ftfy
Ian Peterson
>M-MUH CORPORATE WELFARE
You're the kind of retard who always moans on and on about the banks bailout without realizing the government forced them to make sub-prime loans as part of a poorly disguised black welfare program. Of course they fucking didn't pay shit back and of course banks are going to sell off debt that they know they can't collect on, it's normal operating procedure. And after the "bailout" the government quietly collected all that bailout money back plus interest and acted like the banks were the bad guys for doing what they were told under administrative threat from the US gooberment.
Ryder Nguyen
t. Goldman Sachs cocksucker
>You're the kind of retard who always moans on and on about the banks bailout
You know corporate welfare is bad whenever it's pushed by the corporations or by the government, right? Are you so much of a commie you can't imagine anything that doesn't involve the state?
>the government forced them to make sub-prime loans as part of a poorly disguised black welfare program
What a conveniently way to pretend the ones who pushed that program weren't GS people
Liam Richardson
>bought RAM yesterday
I did the right thing, avoiding chinese fakes.
James Smith
will there be any survivors?
Aaron Russell
no
Gavin Reyes
>under administrative threat from the US gooberment.
That Bush chappie was a thorough-going prick, right?
Jeremiah Lewis
>disrupts your monopoly
Xixi, nothing personal white devils
William Long
So, this means that SSD will be shittier, and RAM will be shittier?
Jackson Sanders
It's a gook monopoly though
Nicholas Long
yes but you'll have 256GB of ram and 24TB of SSD for the same price
Jaxson Rogers
Meh.
Jack Brooks
It also means that the quality brands will have to stop price gouging to be able to compete.
Levi Reyes
And they all will drop qc to do this.
Matthew Brooks
The Fire Rises
And shintel stock goes down
Connor Howard
They don't need to drop qc to drop their ridiculous margins from price gouging
Owen Barnes
The media should just report on the news, instead of having biases.
Carson Phillips
Go away Soros
Wyatt Rodriguez
Media is a cartel
Lucas Carter
Oh I thought people buy western tech because they have high quality?
Jackson Allen
>yes but you'll have 256GB of ram and 24TB of SSD for the same price
Rigth
Jose Baker
Luckily our nuclear system still runs on PDP-11s
Matthew Rivera
>without realizing the government forced them to make sub-prime loans as part of a poorly disguised black welfare program
LOL, is that why pretty much everybody who was complaining about having taken out the shit loans back then was a white suburban type?
Andrew Scott
Intel has sold off all of its NAND fabs outside of china
Jackson Turner
Dumb commie, who else takes loans?
Julian Sullivan
finally.
Robert Murphy
why can't we just make more China in China, so that good things become even more cheaper?
Jonathan Allen
I bet you've been very happy to pay $200 for decent DRAM
Alexander Hall
2/3 major memory fabs are south korean
Jaxson Ramirez
China is shit and always will be.
Michael Thomas
when will the RAM prces drop? i have to get a new pc in the next months and i would be very happy to not spend 220 € on just ram alone.
Levi Turner
Good. I want to see Samsung, Micron, and Hynix burn where they fucking stand.
Watching Intel absolutely shit its pants and get assraped by Ryzen is profoundly satisfying as well. If AMD maintains or builds their lead for a few years, they'll get cocky too just like Intel did, and Intel will come from behind and fuck them back. That will be satisfying as well.
It's absurdly great to see the cockiest, cuntiest fucks get beat down. Watching Hillary lose, and seeing her fanbase go absolutely ballistic was fantastic - if Trump loses 2020, the meltdown will be fucking delicious.
Zachary Morales
Samsung and others have all had the backing and subsidisation of the Korean government, it's how they were originally able to undercut and undermine Japanese electronics companies.
All part of Korea's "fuck japan" policies.
Landon Ramirez
>they are unironically, literally arguing that competition reduced innovation
Unbelievable
>3 companies control 90% of the global production for a component needed in almost literally every electronic device produced today
>they get together to start fixing prices at the expense of literally everyone else
>China is the only entity with enough resources to actually take them
>China is tired of getting fucked by them
>China fucks them back
Only a literal astroturfer or a boomer so marinated in propaganda that he believes the war on drugs was successful would think this is a bad thing.
You pick which one you are. It's your choice.
Henry Gomez
they sell the shit you dimwit
Aaron Martinez
>quality drops in Korean companies because Chinese labor is cheaper
I can't wrap my head around how that could make sense to you.
>Boss, boss! Chinese companies can pay their workers 1/2 the wages we pay!
>Mr Lee... machines make all our modules anyway. A 16GB module only costs $18 to produce, and less than 5% of that is based on human labor costs. We can just lower the price.
>Oh, okay boss.
Michael Barnes
This
We need to stop funding China and produce our shit there
Oliver Moore
>the government forced them to make sub-prime loans as part of a poorly disguised black welfare program
... you don't really believe that, do you?
>how should we provide welfare for black communities?
>I know, let's bury them in debt for non-income earning assets like buying an extra house!
Unless you meant a poorly disguised fuck-over-poor-people-and-maybe-they'll-finally-die program, in which case that's bullshit but I believe it.
You're a big RAM.
What the fuck part of "price gouging" do you not understand? If a memory module costs $20 to produce, and they were selling it (at a healthy profit, btw) for $60, then decided they could start fixing prices and sell it for $160 instead, where in that equation would they have to drop quality to go back to pre-price-fixing levels?
Is the quality higher now that they're price fixing? No? Then why would quality go down when they stop?
No denying that. It's an authoritarian, corrupt shithole. But it's an authoritarian, corrupt shithole that's about to shove it's massive chink dick up the ass of the three cunt organizations that have been fucking the entire world by fixing memory prices.
So, eh, fuck em.
Then go ahead and put up the $100 million+ it takes to start up a DRAM fab.
We'll wait.
Xavier Nelson
not soon
Josiah Wright
Within the next 5 years, and almost definitely more than 1 year from now.
Gabriel Rivera
>make more China in China
But that's literally what millions of Chinese couples do every day
Jace Watson
This. Only an idiot hates cheap shit from Asia. With cheap products, everyone benefits, except for a handful of Jews who lose undeserved profits, but still have more than enough.
Easton Cooper
youre giving the state WAYYY too much credit here
>bank:I cannot give you this loan it would bury you in debt
>govt: racist! redliner! give out those loans!
then try to bake those loans into derivatives and have govt workers pensions tied to it too!
Ryder Jackson
kuomintang, japs n gooks are western now?
Juan Brooks
its like none of your heard about the new tariff on the chinese lmao
Adrian Roberts
Literally everything is already made in china anyway. China would have already installed spyware on almost every smartphone in existence at this point. Every fucking macbook fucking everything. Its nothing new the difference is big greedy corporations arent selling things at top US dollar
Jaxson Fisher
Can't wait for the eternal BSOD and ram sticks having only 2GB of actual RAM when being sold as 8GB.
Robert Ross
>>koreans reduce prices to pre-collusion levels
>literally everybody loses in this scenario
Seems like consumers win though.
>>everybody in the west gets backdoored memory
*Everybody in the world has been getting free hardware backdoors in all their electronics for years.
FTFY
Jace Campbell
> Competition and innovation that drive prices down for consumers are great, but China just takes the asshole approach to everything. Through state-backed corporate espionage they rip off another company's R&D, then enter the market to produce cheaper DRAM because they didn't have to put in the investment to develop it.
Maybe those companies shouldn't go full retard when it comes to production and getting bought out by the Chinese. The short-term profit from cheaper production is going to fuck them over in the long-term. Chinese are well-known for IP theft.
That's like using a well-known pedophile as your babysitter, just because he's cheaper, and then complain afterwards that your children got molested.
Jason Martin
>memory chip
>cpu
Are you retarded?
Robert Bell
>Through state-backed corporate espionage they rip off another company's R&D, then enter the market to produce cheaper DRAM because they didn't have to put in the investment to develop it.
Based. If only they would do this to Intel.
Jordan Sanders
The price fixing gooks deserve to get raped by the big chink cock
Asher Ramirez
>Implying everything isn't already made in China
Chase Walker
>state-owned
So socialism saves the day once again, huh...
Hunter Martinez
>Ready the nukes
do they sell those on alibaba?
Dylan King
in 6~ months we'll probably be at early 2017 levels
Hunter Jackson
Taiwan is different
Christian Gray
>implying everything isn't already made in japan
Charles Nelson
Well yeah, making cheap shit has always been a part of industrialization of countries, it moved from Germany to US to Japan to Taiwan to Korea and now to China, doesn't mean they are going to make cheap shit forever.
In fact I'm pretty sure Vietnam and Malaysia is going to be the next countries that makes the majority of cheap shit.
William Johnson
Yes.
Socialism works if you treat your citizens as slaves and create entire economy around theft.
Cameron Ward
>other producers that aren't backed by a state
Samsung is literally the Korean government.
Xavier Cooper
>entire economy around theft
But that's just how capitalism works, user.
Jose Hughes
>everybody in the west gets backdoored memory
stop pretending like this isn't already the case, the us is not some freedom loving entity that would never backdoor your shit.