/hsg/ - Home server general

/hsg/ - Home server general

--> Quick Questions Quick Replies Why would I want a NAS/Homeserver?
If you ask why then you don't need it.

>I want a NAS/HTPC/Plex what should I get?
RPi3 or Odroid XU4/HC1. Odroid upper models has USB 3 and USB bus separated from the Ethernet one.

>B-But muh ARM
Then check the onboard x86 like J4105B-ITX, J4205B-ITX or J4205-ITX. All of them have SATA and USB 3.

>What's the best [software] for doing [ask]?
Specify you question and elaborate. If you want help put something from your side.

>Which disk is better for my homeserver?
The general opinion minus some details are that WD Greens are enough if you deactivate parkdrive, and WD Red are Green overpriced. Also Toshiba and HGST are pretty good.

---> FAQ & Tips Chat

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But seriously tho, why would anyone need a home server now a days? I store all my stuff on IPFS and index them on my local machine.

Hoping for some insight, as it only just occurred to me to try benchmarking my NAS drive. I guess from the result, I'm saturating the gigabit LAN link on all but the single queue test? Server is FreeNAS running on 8 disk raidz2. The system is Xeon E3-1230v3 with 32GB of RAM.

I've always just assumed it's "fast enough," but is there a configuration issue that could make things faster? I don't have anything set up for ZIL and L2ARC -- maybe that would help?

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>>I want a NAS/HTPC/Plex what should I get?
>RPi3
how would a pi be a good NAS if all it has are usb connections? or am I missing something and you can attach a faster storage method to it (I don't have one)

What naming scheme do you use for servers in your lab?

user-whatever, where whatever is some description of the machine or its purpose. If that's too boring then name them after anime girls.

jumbo frames, but it's pretty minimal increase. just get a 10gbe card, they are cheap AF

htpc/plex is fine with a rpi for 1080p, NAS will be bottlenecked. get the odroid if NAS is high on the priority list

Name them what they are used for, i don't think there's a reason to use a scheme for a homelab.

I'm more concerned with the single queue test in the bottom row and whether there's any way of optimizing for that. 10gbe presumably wouldn't help with that (though maybe with the top rows that are bottlenecked).

it's 4k, just tuning block size, it's s disk limitation.

use ssd's

$service.internal.$mydomain.tech

From last round:


>How are you doing in compiling inputs for updating the FAQs?

I was about to check it out when someone took the liberty to do the thread. So nothing beside editing the WD Greens section.

DONT ANSWER

>.tech domain

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t. owner of a .onions domain

Any issues with having a made up TLD for a home lab?

im planning on setting up an unraid system for cloud and plex needs. what cpu would be good for on the fly transcoding, or would one of the integrated pentium itx mobos be fine?

planning on using a node 304 as the case.

No
If hell froze over and somehow someone came to legitimately own the domain you chose you could fix it easily.
However, the cost of doing things right is so low and it gives you a nice way to access things from outside. The only hard part is picking a name.

>im putting a solar system in my shed.
>plc to control temp/ humidity
>Old asrock with 8gb ram and 3 harddrives I aquired
>Debian stetch, hostapd, not plex (the other one) + lamp environment

I used to have a orangepi with an external harddrive, but wifi was slow and the harddisk became fragmented or something.

I want a server to manage family photos and backup files securely offline.

Good luck.

How do people put multiple HDDs on one pi? I cannot find an adapter for more than one drive.

I'm interested in this.
Post more about it pls and ty

Thats just some pajeet stealth marketing his shitcoin outside of the containment zone

so i can store my files in one central location and access them from each of my other computers. are you retarded? if you cant see a need for a server not only you not belong in this thread, but you do not belong on Jow Forums

It actually seems like a really neat idea.

Is port 2222 really this quiet? Like I know anything that answers on 22 gets the door tried almost constantly, but I opened up an SSH server on 2222 and watched the logs, not a peep for over ten hours.

>tfw I have sshd running constantly on port 22 with a simple dictionary password
how fucked am i?

>tfw fell for the seagate meme

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You need to tell us what resolution of media you are transcoding, BD movie rips, 1080p tv shows, 720p anime, etc etc.

4k high bitrate remux transcode on the fly neeeds around a 3770. 1080 tv shows can be done on a recent dual core.

already fucked probably, do you have fail2ban or another monitoring service running?

i call them variations on the nigger theme, since they're here to slave for me.

Why not use public key authentication and disable password based authentication entirely?

ZIL stands for ZFS Intent Log - it's similar to the journal on EXT4 for example and won't improve your write speeds unless your writes are synchronous (which you can force with sync=always on the zpool). It's all a bit counter-intuitive really and a bad ZIL setup can hurt your throughput considerably.
L2ARC is Level 2 ?? Cache. This *may* improve reads for frequently accessed data, although in my experience ZFS's caching leaves a lot to be desired. Redundancy doesn't really matter so you can go ahead and use a single cheap SSD really.
Jumbo frames like the other guy said can provide a small throughput increase over the network but you look pretty much saturated already.
I seem to remember there being a sysctl for ZFS write sync frequency. You would expect that caching more and syncing less frequently would improve write speeds but with ZFS, who knows!
Yeah that's really not a good suggestion at all. RPi3 is fine as a client device but it has no job acting as a NAS or media server.
Based and redpilled
Usb to sata adaptors. I hope you like terrible throughput.
Mail server
Media downloading and transcoding
3D rendering
Device backups
Fast bulk storage
Baka!

Any anons here have experience with the Toshiba P300 drives? I see mixed reviews around the web, but most tests report low failure rates.

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Next stop is for someone to create a desktop and mobile app that provides GUI ways to connect to home servers and work with the files.

There's a SunFire UltraSPARC IIIi V240 on my local Craigslist for $250. It's from 2004. Is there any special use for such a server? It's got a whopping 4 GB of memory and a few hard drives. Don't know if there are any useful skills I could gain from working with it. Thoughts?

I do, they are relatively reliable. By "test report" you mean the singular backblaze nigger study that follows no logic or scientific order. Ignore that shit.

>not using public key auth on internal ips, and OTP + public key on external ips

keklerino

>zipties laptop mb and modem to wall
YALL LOOK AT MUH DATACENTER HACKER SERVER 1337

Think it's better to overspend a little and go for a 4 bay NAS in the interests of future proofing over a 2 bay?

yeah, you gotta use them woodscrews instead

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>GOTTA TAKE SWITCH AND PSU CASE OFF TO MAKE IT LOOK COOLER, ALSO ADD ROAST THERMOMETER FOR MORE AUTIS i mean AESTHETIC.

state of Jow Forumsgreddit everyone

should i format my 500gb external usb to ext4? I'm gonna use it with a debian laptop and use syncthing. My main pc is debian too. I dont have any windows crap.

lol and gotta have those 120ac wires exposed too!

>I'm trying to fit in with what I think is the standard *chan attitude, the post

those psus never had cases tho

also that's 230v
and the whole thing has a plastic cover

then stop trying to fit in??? confused asf. if you dont want to confirm to Jow Forums, why did you go out of your way to mimick the ziptie laptop on a wall and try to look like le1337 hacker server master. Do not worry, when you get older you will feel less and less obligated to make yourself seem cool for others and realize it is just better to be your self.

>230v
proving my point further, you will go to even greater extent and risk just to look cool
and they obviously did have a case you twat, its a fucking laptop charger.

but 120v is more dangerous because of the amps...

just give it up, Jow Forums is just r/mildyautistictechpics, of course they are literally taking apart functional shit and stapling it to a wall to get r/ tEcH approval points

Jow Forums is dead

>higher amps
>implying higher amps are more deadly then volts
absolute state of Jow Forums
middle school edition

Anyone have a low voltage PSU they'd recommend? To power a standard ATX computer that'd be on all the time. Needs to power a core i5 because I'm using it to record data from up to 8 security cameras.

Or should I use something else? Computer runs Server 2016 and shits data to a 2TB HDD if that matters

160w pico psu, smaller then gum pack

fuck off summerfag. i have a fucking degree which includes several electricity courses.

>baito
i went to school for a fucking English degree and still know that you are wrong
could it be you mean highschool TECH classes.
18 or older to post on Jow Forums

>you will go to even greater extent and risk
there are no exposed 230v parts that you can touch without first opening the lid and then jamming your finger deep into the power supply.

> they obviously did have a case you twat, its a fucking laptop charger.
they're open-frame power supplies from mean well.

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>i went to school for a fucking English degree

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Jow Forums will fall for this bait every time

240 is more dangerous user.
please, keep your PSU covered up, one slip and you could hurt yourself.

Also, it looks tacky as fuck.

ikr, i would be fucking embarrassed out of my mind if an English major was right and i was wrong.

touch those nice and exposed capacitor pads on the underside of the board while it is plugged in and get back to me on that one.

the amps retard is not me though

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You are wrong
240v is worst than 110v for the human body

>haha i was just pretending to be retarded

1. can't touch the underside when it's mounted
2. it has a discharge resistor to make them safe when the power is disconnected

then why can i take a 200.000 volt charge and survive if even less than 300v is dangerous

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Put a finger in a 110 outlet and get the finger numb
Put a finger in a 240 outlet and faint+get a burn

You can't take 200kV. Go grab a high voltage power line if you dare.

t. never encountered a 240v outlet

>what is ohm's law

Everyone is saying to run your own DNS but since you're just going to be querying authoritative servers it doesn't seem like it will improve privacy at all, will it? Unless you run a public server to mask your personal queries, but that's a bit overkill.

Here's my idea for a setup:
>VPN using probably OpenVPN (WireGuard looks extremely promising but I don't know if it's mature enough to fully trust yet)
>DNSCrypt-Proxy running as the local DNS resolver
>connecting to some OpenNIC servers that support DNSCrypt and claim to keep no logs
Is this good for security and privacy? The idea would be that I would tunnel all my traffic through the VPN (thus also significantly improving my privacy when going outside), and hence force all my devices to automatically use DNSCrypt to secure their DNS without needing to set up clients on every device. Is this good, or can this be improved, or am I retarded and should rethink everything?

Would an Odroid be able to sustain that, with a bandwidth of at least 100Mbps through the VPN? Probably a C1 if it's good enough, if not I might as well get a XU4 to also power a temporary NAS with its USB3 until I can get my proper server built. Or any other recommendations for an SBC that's good at throughput? If there's one that's not too expensive, with several Ethernet ports and powerful enough to sustain them, I might even use it as my primary switch/router.
>why SBC
I'm hoping it will be powerful enough to essentially just forward traffic and do some DNS processing, and I don't want to spend the money and time on building a proper server just now. Keeping it separate might also help in the future, letting me e.g. take down my NAS for backups or maintenance without taking down my entire network setup.
They're also easily passively cooled.

Opinions or feedback on this project?

My post

Your head

Dropping this:
youtube.com/watch?v=XDf2nhfxVzg

You can take 200kv easily if it's at a low current.

A DNS server at home is pointless. Great for testing/learning purpose but for production way way overkill at the home. Consider:
Mostly when you install a DNS server at home all your doing is creating a cache DNS server. All this server does is resolve site IP's to names so that in the future instead of going to you ISP's DNS for lookup it looks at your local DNS first. Unless you got like 20 users at your house and they all use the net 24/7, then you won't notice any gains. The other way is when your rolling a domain at home, but even then, the result is the same, that DNS server still functions as a local cache server plus handles local domain lookup duties.

Blocking ads via dns for devices that cannot be easily configured and providing names for all your services is pretty nice.

Yeah that's what I gathered from my research. So what do you think of my current idea?
Tl;dr if you want: Odroid running OpenVPN, also running dnscrypt-proxy as the llcal DNS resolver that will be setup to connect to some no-log DNS servers supporting DNSCrypt (probably from OpenNIC). My main questions so far being:
>does this set up make sense at all?
>will it be capable of at least 100Mbps throughput?
>my understanding is that unlike DNSSEC, which only signs queries, DNSCrypt fully encrypts them, thus preventing not just forgery but also eavesdropping - is that correct?

A quick little note:

According to a data transfer calculator website, if you got 12TB of data and you back it all up over GB lan it would take 30 hrs to do (with overhead factored in). It gets worse if you make say 3 backup copies of all 12TB. Then the time climbs to 90 Hrs. However if you did that same transfer over USB 3 (3 Gbps) it would only take 10 hrs with 30 hrs to do 3 complete backups. With 10GB lan that time drops to 9 hrs to do all 3 complete backups of 12TB. I pity the fool with 40TB and they go to back it all up over 1 GB lan, to say nothing if a power failure happened right at the mid point.

If you have a 200kV source, the initial current CANNOT be low because it's voltage divided by skin resistance, and the latter is a couple hundred kOhms in the very best case. The only way you don't take damage from that is if the source has a tiny charge (i.e. static electricity) and is depleted so fast that the current only affects you for fractions of a millisecond.

why did you copypaste this from the other thread

also why do you need 4 copies of your anime

You can never have enough backups friend. Besides it's not just all porn, only 3.5TB is porn, 3.9TB is films/shows, the rest is a mix of stuff.

>WireGuard looks extremely promising but I don't know if it's mature enough to fully trust yet
It was sent already to be implemented into the Linux kernel. Is too late for the 4.19 but will be added for the 5. Also Linus itself said it was happy to have it since he thinks OpenVPN is pure shit.

Thanks for describing what a DNS server does, this is all new to us.

Can you explain why setting up a DHCP server is useless as well?

How about a CA, QoS or an IDS? Don;t know why anyone would want those features.

Who's doing full backups all the time?

Just fucking set rsync up and forget about it.

syncthing* not rsync

If you're making triple-redundant backups of porn and TV shows, might as well go the extra mile.

If you have a low enough current at 200kv, when you touch it the voltage immediately drops to a safe level.

>If you have a low enough CHARGE at 200kv, when you touch it the voltage drops to a safe level faster than the high current can kill you

Fixed. lrn2electricity.

Huh, nice. They don't even have CVEs yet, though. So how does that work? They get a major vulnerability and it basically means a major vuln in the mainline kernel, but the WireGuard guys just go "lol we told you it's not ready yet" and sit back with a goofy grin while the Linux devs scramble to fix it?

I don't really know. I can link you the article if you feel like, but basically Wireguard should be ready out of the box when kernel 5 arrives.

Oh but I did, I implemented ReFs (1 server) and ZFS (2 servers) plus I use a UPS to keep the evil bit rot/corruption away. My data will survive intact even when I hit old age status (in 35 yrs). Hell who knows, I might be able to show my grand kids on there 18th birthday grandpa's retro porn stash.

You mean your grand-nephews

Sweet! I'll take your word for it.
>when kernel 5 arrives.
When is that by the way?

>Summer fucked up my server temps
>Room temperature was always okayish though
>Think of ways to get better circulation
>Extend server cabination with a "cooling tower"
>Actually works
>Damp cabinett as it got colder again
>Actually pretty silent now
>Start PC
>WRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
So my whole cabinet is now more silent than my actual Pc (same room) and I'm thinking about just buying a cheapo rack case and raming my PC within there. Anyone tried something like that before? I know there are some restrictions on max length for HDMI and USB, but I'm not playing games, so input lag shouldn't bother me, right?

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>Extend server cabination with a "cooling tower"
Pics if you don't mind, user.

I thought I said something wrong and deleted the post. Whatever, I'm a derp still. Sorry user.

It's still not perfect. I will post pics once i'm finished and my inner autist satisfied.

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My "server room" is a bit of a mess, really not that big a deal though since the room itself is also a storage room/utility room. But as things have progressed my server's have sprawled outside the room along with the cables. The only good part about it all is that its all in the basement. So no one really goes down there unless to do laundry or to enter the garage.

I use mine for:
torrentbox
fileserver
time machine backup
android backup
printer server
headless virtualbox