When will the RAM cartel end?

When will the RAM cartel end?

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When based China starts flooding the market with their memory chips. This will force the "cartel" to drop prices, which should create inside fracture due to different margins of operation.

So a couple of years?

Chinese fabs are starting to get off the ground, but it's going to be years before they have a competitive product, assuming they can actually successfully ramp to volume production within the next couple of years as planned. And by then we'll all be moving onto DDR5. which will require a lot more catch-up from the new Chinese companies (which are tiny and with a fraction of the capcity of the big players). So at least five years, and probably closer to ten before there's real competition.

I'm sure your estimations are exaggerated and do not count in the fact that Chinks are based. Surely it won't take more than a year or two.

I think they are just 6 years away.

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this is why (((trump))) hates china

Huge of RAM (64GB+) and 1TB+ SSD main parts of PC/laptop.

Just get 1GB of RAM and then a 128GB swapfile on an M.2/NVME SSD. Boom, you basically have a really nice L5 cache and then a shit ton of system memory.

is this actually good advice? can you post a linustechtips video where they test this?

It's bad advice. It will wear out the SSD very quickly.

Short answer is "it depends". SSDs will be slower than actual RAM, but a really good SSD in a really good configuration may not be *noticeably* slower.
The only concerns are that it will reduce durability somewhat as the other user mentioned, but only because you're basically doing IO on the drive nonstop.

>china floods market with cheap shitty knockoff chips that have high defective rates
>everyone realizes this and keeps the good memory still higher price
>NEETs on Jow Forums get scammed

It's awful advice. SSDs are orders of magnitude slower than RAM, it will murder your SSD's health, and swapping is not a cheap operation to begin with regardless if it's an SSD or Disk.

>Chinks are based

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>return of cheap generic RAM that fails

It won't do shit. You'll have branded premium RAM and a load of shit generic chink RAM. It'll be like the SDR/DDR RAM market all over again.

why doesn't trump realize ram is part of national security and we must ensure the industry is not controled by chinks and gook tweet him.

because trump is a brainlet

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All he cares is the security and well being of israel

delet dis goy

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>I'm sure your estimations are exaggerated
You're welcome to think what you like, but it only displays your ignorance. By their own estimates the first Chinese fabs will only be entering volume production next year, at a tiny fraction of the capacity of the major players and only shipping basic 2133MHz DDR4. Production is expected to scale up a bit by 2020, but still only with that product line. It'll take years for them to start producing a product of sufficient quality to achieve higher speed bins in quantities needed to bring those products to market, and that's around the time the big players will be ramping to volume production of DDR5 and desktop machines will be making the switchover. That will require a lot more R&D and restructuing on the part of these new Chinese fabs too, should they hope to push their own DDR5 products.

If you're expecting China to swoop in and save you within the next few years and bring RAM prices crashing down, you're sorely mistaken. Perhaps if all you want is the most basic of 2133MHz DDR4, but it's dubious as to whether their limited capacity will have any meaningful effect on the market. Ever moreso outside of China itself and Asia as a whole, since you'd expect that any product they produce will be sold through in those markets first.

You guys have all heard of the tariffs right? Any memory imported from china will have a 25% tariff on it starting later this month.
Shit is just gonna get more expensive from here.

So i should buy my memory either within this month or wait a few years?

25% tariff on most electronics from China goes into effect on the 23rd. Id be extremely surprised if memory prices don't go up after that since even though most chips aren't made in china the PCBs are usually assembled there.

>Fails after 1 month

Essentially this. It surely won't drop by their own.