Realistically, how much time/effort would it take a complete beginner to be able to create a social networking app similar to twitter/instagram? Even one with very limited functionality to serve as a kind of prototype?
Alternatively, how much would it cost to pay someone to do the above?
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6 months - 2 years depending on how smart you are and how much of a hackjob you want your application to be
>social networking app
before the app, there has to be a platform
Do you mean start with a website? Or do you just mean an internal system for managing all the posts, essentially the backend? I thought that was kind of implicitly included in the question, but I appreciate the distinction.
yea, i was talking about the backend
and as said, it should take at worst up to 2 years
That's what I thought.
What about hiring someone to make something like this?
You will have to pay them $1,000 to $50,000 depending on how much of a hackjob you want your application to be.
Actually now that I think about it a really professional application with the scale you are talking about would probably cost you at least six figures.
I don't really recommend it
Or you can hire a poo code monkey to throw something together in four weeks for approximately $1,000.
About 30 minutes and 50 usd
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thought about doing this for a very specific population and having it integrate somewhat with existing platforms.
what are you trying to create Jow Forumsent?
Thanks for your input. Having never worked in this field, I have no idea what to expect.
As if I would reveal my genius billion dollar concept. Suffice it to say that I think there is a window of opportunity for a fee, non-ad-based social network to still generate revenue, but the window might be closing soon.
Also, looking at that wiki list, it looks like PHP and MySQL are where I should direct my learning if I am going to try to pull this thing together myself? It's what most of the items on the list use.
Your idea probably sucks and has zero value in the long term, like everyone else's shitty idea for the next billion dollar "facebook killer". All that is going to happen is that you are going to waste 2 years of your life throwing together a buggy, unusable application, and the only thing you will have gained from the whole experience is how to write crappy code, because you have no formal education to tell you what is good code bad code. But more than likely you are going to watch a few Youtube videos on programming, and then become bored after the first 2 hours, and go back to shitposting on Jow Forums or reddit or whatever useless thing you do in your free time and forget about this whole application, until you suddenly get excited about it again two months later only for the cycle of boredom to repeat again.
I think you're talking about yourself, friend.
I'll probably hire someone (if I can afford it) or bring in a business partner with the necessary skill set, if I can't figure out a way to duct tape a basic prototype together myself.
I believe in this idea. While I don't have any programming experience, I do have marketing experience, and this is an app that I believe people will use.
No php and mongodb are your safest bet. And dont bother with modern js web frameworks, everyone's really running static templates for social apps these days.
Your "belief" isn't worth a dime. Let's overview why your plan sucks:
>you have no confidence in your idea otherwise you would let it be critiqued by other people
>you have no knowledge or even the faintest clue of what you have to do to achieve it
>you're underestimating the production costs
>you don't have any technical skill
>you're asking an imageboard of all places instead of doing a little bit of research on your own or a better source
>you're trying to make a product in a field where everything is determined by how well connected you are
you dont even know what his idea is
dont act like any old retard cant get rich off social media apps these days
>you have no confidence in your idea otherwise you would let it be critiqued by other people
This isn't true. (((they))) are always listening.
>you have no knowledge or even the faintest clue of what you have to do to achieve it
Knowledge can be gained, bought, or acquired by proxy by bringing in a business partner.
>you're underestimating the production costs
I have no estimation of the costs, that's why I asked here. My ideal solution would be to make it myself, if I can.
>you don't have any technical skill
True, but also falls under "knowledge," above.
>you're asking an imageboard of all places instead of doing a little bit of research on your own or a better source
I'm asking an imageboard, but you're assuming that I'm ONLY asking an imageboard. I'm not.
>you're trying to make a product in a field where everything is determined by how well connected you are
This may well be true, but one way to make connections is to actually have something to offer, like a good idea with a working MVP.
About a week for basic functionality.
>actual unironic ideas man
>>you're asking an imageboard of all places
notch posted minecraft on /v/
>actual unironic marketer and business owner
FTFY
i've thought this too. idk how you break the minimum user threshold for the platform to be viable though. like why would you join if nobody you know uses the service.
That was supposed to say "free, non-ad-based social network."
People join new social networks all the time. One strategy is novelty, like snapchat or musica.ly. Another is to have creators/popular users that people want to follow, like vine stars, etc.
Yup, now take all of the ideas collectively posted on /v/ since the beginning of time, and calculate the amount of them that had the same success as minecraft, or any worth at all for that matter.
I mean you could theoretically win the lottery if you buy a ticket right now, right?
how will you come up with ops costs? data mining/selling?
That's the trick, isn't it?
No, it's not data.
The solution is obvious if you're paying attention, and I think some social networks are even beginning to dip their toes into this, but none of them are "all in" on it, and all of them are still ad-based. That's why I think there's an opportunity.
I like this idea man. Determination is a key.
Go go ideaman!!!
donations?
This is a business, not a fucking bake sale.
It wouldn't be too difficult to get basic functionality. Even a beginner could get a prototype working in a few days. The real difficulty comes from scaling and infrastructure.
not op but what if i use aws or google appl engine? do they ease backend develipment? soryy completely noob
Do you have any specific advice regarding how to get started?
he's right, listen to him
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Considering it would be just prototype, it would take few months max. You wouldn't need to bother with effectivity and scaling, no mobile applications for it. I guess someone skilled with one of popular frameworks could have it done if few evenings and frontend in another week.
of course no he is just spouting bull . If you know nothing about programming without help it would take you atleast 6 months to be a beginner independent of language then from there months minimum to hack a mess with a glimpse of functionality; You would have to be constantly refractoring you app a beta may even take a year given you are alone and not wworking full time on it.
Lookup android/ios programming
Then take an online course on sql databases
create backend, create app, get a basic funcionality, hope your app is bought by a bigger company.
were should i host my backend? on my laptop?
Yes.
fucking hell, dude.
consider the following: a VPS, a dedicated server
what about appengine or aws?