School Computers

What is the best way to introduce children to technology in schools?

I think we can all agree that giving kids tablets is retarded as anything other than a status symbol.

Some key questions:
>laptops or desktops
>Linux or proprietary software
>what should kids actually learn

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Force them to install Genoo. Make it worth 100% of their grade.

When i was young we got macbooks with openoffice, but since os x is so shit everyone figured out how to get their own stuff on it, and that worked damn well.

Not until they're at least in the 8th grade in programming class.
Classes in computer rooms are a fucking mess.
>laptops or desktops
Desktop obviously if you want to keep theft at a minimum.
>Linux or proprietary software
Windows due to simplicity and availability at home.
They should focus on the learning material. The OS is just noise.
>what should kids actually learn
Everything you learn in cs on a basic level.

I dunno why, but every fiber of my person rebels against introducing computers in school.
it's a controlled environment that doesn't allow the kid to mess with, break, and learn at their own pace. you can learn what you're told, but you can't explore beyond that. I feel computers aren't things you learn like english or math in a structured way. it's very exploratory, and you learn as you do, as you use it.
it's just one of those things best left at home. an old system found by dumpster diving and used as a home project to make it work is a better learning experience.
not that I dumpster dive or have kids, but at least that's how I picture it being done.

I feel like teaching the CLI to kids in a structured environment is worthwhile

Tldr they're teaching normies how to do normie things and that's bad mmkay

I think the most important thing we should teach kids to do with computers is to read the fucking manual

learning computers vs computers as a tool for learning. which one are we discussing here?

teach them how to make games with godot and gdscript
its fun and educational

How to do maintence of both hardware and software in safety and learn how to research what they don't know on google.

That's a good question. At least when I was in school, the focus was more on the former. However, I think the focus has shifted to the latter, although I'm critical about how efficacious it is.

>mfw my younger sister's school bought Macbooks full price and then loaded them with bloatware to give them a battery life of maybe 2 hours

>but since os x is so shit everyone figured out how to get their own stuff on it

Because, you know, getting your own stuff on linux or windows is hard user, you need to be a super haxor to do it

I plan on having my kids learn on a desktop at first, later on they can have their own desktop and a tablet if they want it. But I am not going to buy them a laptop.

Giving a child a shitbox. Thats how I learned to trouble shoot and build computers. Dad even paid for the upgrades cause I gave him a list of what needed to be changed when I was 14

give em a terminal and a manual, worked for me

The school I went to gave everyone laptops through some kind of enrichment program. I took amazing care of mine but since they let us carry it from class to class, of course some idiots decided to open them like a notebook and smash them off the railing. So while I benefitted from it, and have a love / appreciation for computers, it's honestly probably too expensive considering the attitude of 8th graders. Especially if their parents aren't held responsible for covering damages.

Tablets replacing textbooks is good, but I don't think they should use them for any serious computation.
>laptops or desktop
Hard to say. My schools had both. Labs and some classrooms had iMacs, and then the library/media center had carts of MacBooks (and later Chromebooks) you could reserve for a period where you wanted your class to all be able to use computers, like if they were writing papers. It might be cool to give them all laptops and have a beefy school server they can ssh into if they need more power.
>Linux or proprietary software
GNU/Linux for sure
>what should kids actually learn
Basic command line skills. Navigating directories. Moving files. Maybe how to use a text editor. Teaching bash scripting or python could be pretty useful as well.

>What is the best way to introduce children to technology in schools?
don't

Just give them a computer and let their minds do the work. When I was a young aspie, my parents just gave me what ever military computer was thrown out from the army base. I turned out all right.

>it's a controlled environment that doesn't allow the kid to mess with, break, and learn at their own pace
maybe that's a bad thing about school, you absolute mogoloid

unironically temple OS

Back in 2005 we had school computers.
But we only visited a website for delivering homework etc. (It'sLearning)
Pc games is what taught me how to type at a reasonable pace and other things.

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>let their minds do the work
discovering porn as an 8th grade horny boy
yeah, right.

Teach them how to build a computer from recycled parts (from donation drive system). Teach them how to install GNU/Linux or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Teach them how to work with routers and IP address.

After this, teach them how to program in python and work on their unique uses. Teach them the importance of external libraries. By the end of the semester, each student should be able to build a computer, install OS, network the computers, and write a functioning code of their choice on a rudimentary level.

Second semester would focus more on coding and third semester more on theories.

I think children should be introduced to technology with chrome books (cause their hard to fuck over and are quiet durable) and to use Kahoot

Schools don't teach kids to use computers, they teach them to use Microsoft Office and Google.