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--> Quick Questions Quick Replies Why would I want a NAS/Homeserver? If you ask why then you don't need it.
>I want a NAS/HTPC/Plex what should I get? RPi3 or Odroid XU4/HC1. Odroid upper models has USB 3 and USB bus separated from the Ethernet one.
>B-But muh ARM Then check the onboard x86 like J4105B-ITX, J4205B-ITX or J4205-ITX. All of them have SATA and USB 3.
>What's the best [software] for doing [ask]? Specify you question and elaborate. If you want help put something from your side.
>Which disk is better for my homeserver? Seems like Green WD are not sold nowadays. So WD Reds are okay for the price if you want "NAS Drvies". Otherwise HGST and Toshiba are your friends.
Got one of these off ebay. It is in fact the ASUS libreboot compatible board. There are 2 other Microway servers on eBay with the same board. Just a few warnings >The documentation is pure ass >takes almost 2 minutes to boot after librebooting. >uses SeaBios instead of grub >SeaBios has awful documentation. >No usb booting after libreboot. It was very easy to libreboot, but don't encrypt your boot drive unless you want to go through the hell of reinstalling your os on this machine like I am now...
I suppose this might be the best place to ask, but why is there such a significant leap in price between a 4Tb drive and a 6Tb?
Do they make the platters out of a different more reliant material, or the production method more advanced and costly?
Ayden Kelly
I'm making sure to write everything down that way I can make someone else's life easier in the future. Sadly it probably won't be till next week till I have enough time to get it all done.
Justin Watson
Bumping with Changelog
>Updated the WD Green not being sold anymore >Updated news
I was about to check if the "Muh ARM" section was on date but I can't recall it anymore. I would have to dive among /hsg/ from winter or so.
Brody Gomez
Is there even some proper arm server, besides maybe the sun sparc thingies.
What does AMD offer in the low-power home server space? Did they ever make a Zen successor to the Athlon AM1 series? I thought Raven Ridge was supposed to bring this but all I remember seeing was mobile stuff.
It's great if you care about your data, but if all you're storing is torrents and porn it's probably overkill.
Brandon Morgan
Could someone please help
My father in law dropped off a 'computer he wanted me to look at'
The damn thing is a server that the guy used for a desktop. I just wanna get it working again, to prove my worth as 'the guy' they call. I can't get it to boot to any of my media or the HDD, and it keeps reading 'os not found'. I can get into bios and I have USBs to spare.
Model is Supermicro x7dal-e
Owen Wright
>to prove my worth as 'the guy' they call nonono no this is a mistake
Ian Richardson
Well its 771 junk but it should still support booting from USB, sounds like you need to change the boot order.
Bentley Sanders
I'll keep trying, I've only got a shitty windows xp disc for tonight, tomorrow I can get my hands on the windows 7 disc (not that it let's me boot to either disc.) I think the hard drive might be failed.
I know but he helps me a ton, I wanna pay him back
Samuel Garcia
Brainlet here looking to set up a home media server. Obviously I'm not gonna need 16 GB of RAM for this but why is it so cheap? What makes it different from standard desktop RAM?
Wait, why do you need our help with that if you're "that guy" they call?
Boot the damn thing with Linux or BSD or whatever you use and fix it... or backup and reinstall, clueless people usually have Windows on it and that tends to be the fastest way, if you consider making a "slipstreamed" installer ISO or running the Windows updates "fast" in any way.
Samuel Collins
>Wait, why do you need our help with that if you're "that guy" they call? not him but being "that guy" they call essentially means you have a keyboard, a set of hands and a search engine
Thomas Rivera
It's used, DDR3, and many consumer motherboards will just not work with ECC RAM.
Michael Sanchez
Probably just supply and demand? Lots of companies aren't continuing to use under-powered power guzzling machines that used that older RAM - maybe they even halved or reduced their machine count with one newer Threadripper or Xeon and containers? Who knows.
And not too many build desktop computers, never mind with parts like that at this point in time. We're in the age of the smartphone where even laptops grow rarer and people use other people's servers in exchange for their privacy and/or attention.
Ryder Sullivan
That's registered memory (RDIMM) and there's shitloads of DDR3 on the used market. Huge supply equals low price. That's also 2GB sticks so that's even less value, get at least 4x4GB instead or 2x8GB if you find a deal
Isaiah Rivera
Is a regular samba share folder in my home PC considered as NAS?
Would most people label the machine a NAS if it doesn't run most of the time or doesn't mainly serve this purpose? Probably not. Else, yea, maybe it'd be called that.
Robert Jenkins
>try to look at reviews for server cpus >overflowing with gaymurfags who think theyve struck gold holy shit make it stop
Playing video games on CPU / machines that were intended to be servers is kind of how computers were used all along.
The people doing it now are a bit less clever, nevertheless it's somewhat of a natural fit, apparently. And its even probably why we have the computers we have today. Don't worry about it and do your own thing.
Jaxon Rivera
Here's a cool thing that I figured out to goof off at work:
My organization has a super restrictive web-filter that everyone falls under, and bypassing it isn't an option, even though I run the network. Our WAN feed is from another related organization that watches for traffic bypassing the local proxies. This filter blocks many tech sites, forums, fucking Google Docs, etc. Nothing besides HTTP or HTTPS traffic is allowed outside of the enterprise network. Like any good network admin, I've automated a lot of my tasks, so on a good day when shit hasn't broke, I find myself bored. I'd like to work on personal projects to learn new things, and shitpost.
Enter Apache's Guacamole. This web app uses the hosting server to connect to another host with VNC/RDP or SSH, then re-render it on the web-client in HTML 5. This allows you to access your machines' remote desktop without running RDP/VNC over the internet, and also manages to use way less bandwidth in the process. It's also very handy when you're behind a heavily filtered network, because it's no different to the proxy than any other HTTPS website. Not a security concern either, since you're essentially just interacting with a HTML 5 video.
There's a good script out that will automatically compile and install a guac server on an Ubuntu server. Then use nginx to reverse proxy it to get HTTPS.
Noah Flores
Is it possible to remove the backplane metal cage on the SC847? It's held in place by security screws
Can't see from your pic, what kind of security screws? You can get a kit with all sorts of bits real cheap online.
William Mitchell
Qnap, Synology, others have plenty of ARM options.
Henry Edwards
Trust me. You don't want to be that guy.
Jordan Torres
It's hard to see, but the heads are like an open hole. It seems like someone managed to use pic-related to unscrew them, but I have no idea what this tool is called or what the security screws are called.
>You can get a kit with all sorts of bits real cheap online. I wouldn't mind paying $50 for an entire set of them. Any suggestions?
If all I want to do is stream my porn and music and setup things like riot chat, is an odroid XU4 good enough?
Levi Campbell
Kinda low res, but from what I can tell those look like rivets. Should be able to use a chisel to knock the head off, and then a punch to push them out the other way.
Chase Phillips
This
I can't get it to boot at all from any media, HDD / CD / Anything IDE at all. Even when removing everything else from the boot queue
David Robinson
Yes, almost certainly. It can even decode and play your porn in common formats no problem.
Might want to look at the hc1/2 if you don't need it to play porn, actually.
Ryder Taylor
Cavium ThunderX2, Cloudflare uses them in super-wide scale web hosting.
Nothing in the /hsg/ market though, it's pretty much all pajeet/bixnood tier. Just stick to x86, Avoton if you need low-power.
Hunter Peterson
listen to everyone user, you'e in over your head. Get out while you can.
Aaron Ortiz
If that samba share is on a pi. Welcome aboard!
I see you post these kind of questions a lot in these threads, care to share your setup?
Jacob Hernandez
I dont plan on playing porn from it locally, but the xu4 sounds like a better deal to me as it can be used for other things once I move onto a proper NAS
Gavin Sanchez
why not just use amazon/azure/google cloud as a vpn proxy? They wont be blocking those domains.
Samuel Green
Actually I just realized they're one-way screws + it'd require me to disassemble my rails so it's probably not worth the hassle.
The reason I wanted to remove the metal cage was so that I could move the motherboard tray to the bottom, thus giving me enough room for my heatsinks.
As you can see, my heatsinks are too tall and there's no active heatsink small enough to fit. My only option now is to figure out a way to cover this.
I was thinking about building a simple wooden lid to cover it, since I really want these heatsinks. These active heatsinks allowed me to use a fan controller to lower the RPM of the case fans to point they're super quiet while also keeping great temps.
Idk user, this is my first time posting here. It's my (old) home PC that I use mainly for browsing and the likes. It has a samba share folder I configured to stream movies/porn to my phone whenever I'm on my bed.
I'm just curious if a simple shared disk/folder would also be categorized too. I'd think a proper NAS would have more function instead of just doing wire/less file transfer.
Alexander Watson
Pic-related. I know this looks absolutely retarded but it should work
Yes and in fact I have SNK-P0040AP4. The problem is that this is the only decent active heatsink for the LGA1366 socket. The SNK-P0036A4 is a 2U HSF, but it's not designed for use with an air-shroud or SC847 case.
>Also you can remove the screws with bolt extractors Decided against removing the screws. I'll just build a lid
>i've never seen a fractional U peice of equipment They're actually not as rare as you think
Chase Flores
I saw the UDOO; it has a single SATA so it's more of a x86 'le maker' SBC than a low-power homeserver, in my view. I'll check out Sapphire though, thank you.
What are you implying? I could technically leave it half-open. The only issue is that it'd be susceptible to dust. Building the lid shouldn't be difficult at all once I have the wood pieces. Shouldn't cost more than $50
Because I already bought that and ended up returning it because it was too tall.
>Very ugly I don't care about looks. I just need something to keep the dust out. It'll be inside a rack once I buy that, so looks won't even be a concern.
>wood will keep it warm. Long as the hot air can be exhausted out it'll be fine.
How fast speed can i get thru vpn if the vpn server is on a ryzen r5 machine? I have 250/250 fiber but thinking of updating to 500/500. My r7800 router tops out at 10/10 when im using it as vpn server.
Ryan Foster
I want a NanoPC T4, but they don't sell in my country. fuck me.
Very fast... Just make sure the cpu has hardware acceleration and you are using a crypto algo supported by it.
If you plan on using pfsense and having your VPN on that, don't use a ryzen. They are not stable in freebsd yet (sadly... Cause they support ecc and are much cheaper than bottom end xeons)
Kevin Stewart
Uh, noctua makes a real real good 3u compatable heatsink
Isaac Watson
>when youve been fucking around for 3 hours trying to figure out why you're missing 4 drives even though you have 12 plugged in
Dylan Young
>i dont know what a bend radius is or what it matters
Chase Martinez
Uh, is 7.5mm bend radius at 0.2db drop... Its fine. Stop being jelly
Jayden Thompson
You didnt buy special cable. Your bend radiuses are far smaller than 7.5mm (see the bottom SFP+ on the copper switch), not adhering to the specs results in cracks. You're a retard who googled om3 bend radius and copy/pasted from the first link. You also did plenty of other retarded things like buying flat copper cable. And buying cable fingers instead of just mounting the switches in the rear as they were intended for a tor application.
> jelly nigger please, its like you dont even know about bixnood
Nolan Perez
If they have an extra platter then the drive itself needs a new read write head with higher tolerances and the drive itself gets much heavier and hotter in operation. So costs go up but also y know market demand and all that
Connor Gonzalez
I've got a Dell T110 with the Perc H200 hardware raid card. I added an SSD connecting it to the onboard SATA controller and use that as boot while the mechanical disks attached to the H200 serve as storage and are set up as RAID10. Now i'd like to replace the storage drives with larger ones but i'd like to keep the files/directories/permissions intact. 1. How can i clone the existing data on the raid storage disks onto the new larger ones without fucking up the file system size or whatever? 2. WD Greens with the disk park trick or WD Reds? 3. I heard the H200 is a quite crappy raid card. I've heard it is better to flash it in IT mode so i can use it as a normal SATA controller and sfotware RAID the disks instead. Is it true? Thanks in advance.
Liam Butler
Agreed. Best value in used servers was always for their high end raid cards
Benjamin Hall
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Noah Johnson
Hi mister, I'm in drugs... please just $5 to get hi again
>Why would I want a NAS/Homeserver? >If you ask why then you don't need it. Okay so I don't need it. But for the sake of curiosity, why would one want a NAS/Homeserver?
Hunter Wilson
Why would you want a low power computer to run 24/7 that is a convient backup/availability solution for your files anywhere around the world? That can also stream things to your TV's, download your files without filling up your computers, and at the click of a button make you waste less time by keeping things backup there instead of the web or some random hard drive that has a higher risk from failing because it's being stored improperly....
Just to state a few reasons.
Caleb Hill
> why would one want a dedicated network storage Because stuffing up your PC with HDDs will work, but it may be not as reliable.
Tyler Perez
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Leo Morgan
Buying a bunch of 8-bay HDD boxes doesn't scale. The more storage you have, the more problematic NTFS becomes. It exponentially becomes a clusterfuck. I needed something to deal with these 2 issues. That's where home servers came in.
Allowed me to use ZFS(stability) + RAID(performance) all while allowing me to expand more easily(Supermicro 36-bay chassis). There's also the added benefit of being able to access my storage anywhere in my house though I don't care for that.
I'm pretty sure most of the IT server pros in this thread only did it because they do it as an occupation and need the equipment for testing environments. I think that's kinda cheating but whatever.
