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How the fuck do I fix networkmanager taking forever to find my wifi secrets under i3wm it takes like three fucking minutes after boot before i can get online compared to KDE pastebin.com/tiYyBEzZ
Grayson Fisher
did you try killing the systemd service, re-installing network manager, reconnecting to your network, enabling the service again and restarting?
Oliver Garcia
>using optimized hardware to its fullest and not relying on random people on the internet to support you instead of the actual company that built the hardware
Lucas Young
you know AMD contributes to it's free driver, right? unlike nvidia, who makes it difficult to develop nouveau
Nathan Nguyen
stop replying to it.
Xavier Williams
I reinstalled my whole system and set it up the way it was before, and it turned out the way it was before, which basically needed me to run systemctl restart NetworkManager every fourth reboot. Installing KDE made it work but slowly. All signs point to it being a keyring issue, but I can't find documentatioin for this usecase for the life of me.
Nathaniel Foster
nouveau dosent need to exist. You gain nothing from running it. And unless you're a gnutard political asperger the blob drivers are optimal for every situation
Ryder Cox
I should add, I do start gnome-keyring at login.
Cooper Allen
Is there a way to install Debian from the command line like Arch or Gentoo?
Thanks lads! My server will not support xorg or Debian's TUI install and I want a stable distro.
Nathaniel Anderson
>are optimal for every situation except when you do other things apart from gayming then you discover they don't support all X11 extensions, don't support GBM because they are speshul snowflakes, and God forbid you want to switch between iGPU and dGPU on a laptop fuck Nvidia, I have significantly less problems on Linux since I switched to AMD graphics
Lincoln Garcia
as a beginner if I want to have a general and superficial view of gnu/linux is it enough to read the first 4 chapters of The Unix Programming Environment (I know gnu is not unix)?
Jace Hill
No, get a Linux book. As Unix does not always translate 1:1 to linux.
Lucas Myers
I decided to build a new PC when the Nvidia drivers started progressively breaking my Debian system as I installed more things from backports.
Logan Fisher
could you recommend me one, user? it doesn't need to be a book, it could be a website or youtube channel. what I want is to be able to know
Bentley Young
>what I want is to be able to know I was supposed to delete this part, sorry
Kevin Wilson
'GNU is not Unix' is a pun. It's actually pretty Unix-like. Back in the day when you made a program that was just like XY you called it FINX as in FINX is not XY.
Liam Thomas
How old exactly are "debian's old packages" ?
Adrian Morgan
Linux is a kernel.
Dylan Sullivan
Packages arrive in unstable, get tested for some weeks and then go to testing, when everything is alright after some weeks they go to stable.
Julian Nguyen
>some weeks try months
Ryan Gutierrez
>some weeks try years
John Green
>when everything is alright after some weeks they go to stable No, that's not true at all. Stable only gets patches backported in order to keep API and ABI intact. New upstream versions only ever reach Testing which gets frozen from time to time to build and stabilize the next major Stable release.
Gabriel Hall
Software in Stable is noticeably stale, but not ancient enough to be totally useless.
Matthew Phillips
t. Never used Debian
David Robinson
How do old packages translate to the end-user? Are they significantly behind, meaning that I will feel the difference, or not?
Jeremiah Wilson
nigga if you fear """old"" packages just use testing or unstable
Jaxon Ramirez
>having to choose between outdated or untested packages when will Jow Forums realize debian isn't suited for personal computing
Ryan Howard
when people stop recommending it as a first distro
Logan Hill
Arch is love, desu.
Jayden Powell
Dumb troll.
Bentley King
You fucking retard. Stop spreading your utter dumbness.
Luke Rodriguez
They're 2~3 years behind on average, and you probably will notice at some point. How much you care is really wrapped up in your own use case. Just use Ubuntu if you have to ask.
Aaron Morgan
t. brainlet
Noah Cox
>untested packages where is your brain, senpai?
Jayden Hill
I dont game,nice logic that anyone that enjoys high performance in their graphics stack has to be a gamer. >X11 extensions, Name 5 that arent obscure ones that you only "use" so you can bitch about nvidia >switch You can easily switch. Setup a sh script that changes between them
Most stuff you'd want to update like kernels, mesa, compilers, Flatpak, etc. gets backported to the -backports repo for a given release, so stretch-backports for current stable. Combine with flatpaks, appimages, etc. for newer applications not packaged in Debian and you get a very stable base with fresh stuff on top.
Lincoln Adams
debian's main product is the stable version testing and unstable aren't meant for daily use and go through less quality control because of that chromium in testing used to be months behind but looks like they've gotten around to updating it
Jayden Richardson
Debian has old packages is a meme as well as Arch breaks X every weekend, cancel my meetings. Don't listen to the trolls.
Owen Butler
Chromium is a special case since it got the botnet.
Angel Flores
>Debian has old packages is a meme But they do have old packages in their main repo Not just one or two versions upwards of 10 full revision cycles
Aaron Campbell
>implying it wasn't botnet from the start
Aiden Thompson
HAPPY 25TH BIRTHDAY DEBIAN!! :D
Anyone got a picture of the comfy debian bday party with a cake from a few years back?
Daniel Bell
Debian has three versions to choose from. Stable is for servers that need stability, unstable is for daily use and as up to date as Arch. In fact, unlike Arch, Debian provides tools to tun that inform you about possible breakage.
>or you do want everything between the two "string" too ? no.
Turns out the problem is that there is a unicode character in the way (the degree character) which is impeding greps ability to read the file. Is there any way to outright ignore unicode characters and scan past them?
Dylan Flores
I've done all that I can think of, my xorg.conf stuff definitely has the tapbutton2=0 line in it, and yet whenever my Synpatics touchpad detects me pressing two figures to it at once, it right-clicks. How can I stop this?
Jaxson King
tried to install debian last night to replace Ubuntu on my crap-top. I didn't set up a partition beforehand so I ended up just breaking everything. now I have no bootable OS or kernel, and i can only get as far as the Grub2 screen. Can I wipe all the partitions from here and start from scratch with an install iso on a usb? should I try installing a different distro? I tried and re-tried with debian but its not working even though the installer says everything goes successfully. the only option that works in the installer is to try and overwrite the entire drive. if I try and select from usable free space it says there's not enough despite there supposedly being 500gb free
Ethan Allen
LC_ALL=C grep
Cool side effect is that it makes certain utilities like grep a lot faster.
Choose GPT partition table or it'll be MBR. Next either choose the single partition with everything setup for you or click manual partition and setup a /root /home partition in ext4 (you don't need a swap) /boot /tmp /var /opt /usr are all optional partitions.
Use pure OS on my laptop. It's alright, but Gnome is fucking atrocious. I'm trying to get used to it. But nearly design decision is so fucking inconvenient for the sake of "muh style".
Brandon Green
When will I be able to set my preferred file manager (ranger) as a file picker?
Dominic King
is ext4 the usb?
Matthew Rogers
I need a minimal distro(because of hard drive space) that just works, and Debian seems better than Ubuntu for that matter
Jacob Flores
>minimal distro that just works Void
Jackson Brooks
I'm building a webcrawler, how do i go to URL's i have NOT visited before?
Austin Howard
Just bing them.
William Sanders
bing is not google
Adam Foster
No I meant the installation destination could be ext4.
The installation source USB doesn't need to be partitioned or formatted jsut copy the .iso to a flashdrive and boot it up.
Ryan Moore
What will happen dd if=/dev/mem | shuf | dd of=/dev/mem
Daniel Thomas
USB is a port
Tyler Cruz
you'll make a wormhole delet this
Jacob Diaz
what's a flashdrive?
James Cooper
How do I fix screen tearing when scrolling in xfce? Neither xfwm or compton work. Using intel iGPU.
Logan Sanchez
Friends, this thread is very friendly. Thank you.
Brandon White
i mean, do i echo the URL's i find into a file, and then use a "if grep = 1; do (the rest)"? How do i do that?
Aaron Hill
if only there was some kind of way to add links you've visited to a stack and skip urls if they are already in that stack
This Arch is really nice for a PC. Just don't run it on a server.
Christopher Stewart
i wish i knew how to do this, still a brainlet tho
Robert Sullivan
>live iso doesn't come with cryptsetup, nano or networkmanager (have to painstakingly use wpa_supplicant for wireless) >root defaults to plain sh instead of bash doesn't value your time / 10
Bentley Ward
>inform you about possible breakage. So does the arch front page anytime manual intervention is required. Users are responsible for maintaining their config files, and when programs are updated, it is expected that you follow up on what changes have have happen so you can change your config. Any new config files are installed as ".pacnew" meaning you need to diff your config an the new config to see any relevant changes. Since you have never used arch(its obvious) any further posts will be instantly discarded
Owen Myers
Why are arch users so toxic?
Asher James
Arch users are not toxic. People that talk about Arch users are toxic
Liam Bennett
>live iso doesn't come with cryptsetup, nano or networkmanager False. Use any with DE and Networkmanager is there. Probably with a full-time blown text editor. Default in Void is "nvi" though. >root defaults to plain sh instead of bash It defaults to dash. Also >Bash You do know that it's the slowest one out there, right?
Jose Lewis
Because they couldn't install Gentoo, leaving them half proud, half angry.
