HAPPENING: ARM on the desktop!

>Deimos
>no Kratos

I wonder if this is related to Apple switching to Arm based chips for Macbooks.

Wait, there are still no ARM "desktop" CPUs?
Is porting the applications from x86 to ARM the only issue?

t. clueless fag

>in 5 years

>Sophie Wilson (born Roger Wilson in 1957) is a British computer scientist and software engineer. Wilson designed the Acorn Micro-Computer, [...] Wilson later designed the instruction set of the ARM processor, which is used in most 21st-century smartphones.

>t. Robert H. Swan

>ARM
Would rather expect to see samsung GPUs to arrive at market first

Nope, only some server CPUs that were failures.
Porting is a issue, a massive one in fact. 95%+ of all desktop users use proprietary x86 software that will never be ported.

Then there's the per-core performance, which is just awful compared to x86. Yes, even the apple ones. Emulation is of course even slower. You could make a 32core ARM CPU that could rival something like a ryzen 7, but then you'd need better threaded software as well.

It's not like every software is written from assembly. Figures, that if gcc / clang are able to cross-compile, then it's should be no problem for C developer to even care about low-layer abstract. Java has ARM JDK.

I fucking hope this finaly kills windows

RISC-V ON DESKTOP WHEN?

Plenty of people are using outdated/unmaintained software that nobody's ever going to be around to port, other pieces of software are such complex cluster fucks that fixing all the little hangups that would come with porting them is a waste of time nobody wants to undertake just so some retarded bugman nerd can have a different sticker on his case.

Didnt it lack out of order execution? That means fucking never

>isn't x86
Into the trash it goes.

Unless arm broke physics there's no way a 5W TDP chip is even remotely close to a 15W TDP in performance when both are made on similar nodes.

no x86. DOA

what happens when 1nm lanes is reached? is next just bio-organic mass?

That was just one of the implementations

You retards are forgetting the most important thing, it will be 100% spy device. They will always be connected to the 5G network and there's nothing you can do about it

theregister.co.uk/2018/08/16/arm_debuts_cpu_map_for_the_first_time_sort_of/

>ARM
>3GHz
What were they smoking when they came up with that graph?

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Risc v or bust

RISC-V for mobile/embedded and POWER on the desktop would be the dream.

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>proprietary ISA shittier than x86

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Risc-V is an ISA specification, not a microarchitecture. Some groups are working on a microarchitecture with ooo however

SuperH

iirc SH4 patents expire this year

Exactly. It's a shame that SuperH and by extension J-core got the timing wrong and fizzled.

>somebody gets desktop linux to run on ARM
>no one cares

>microsoft gets ARM version of windows with full x86 emulation/compatibility to run on SD835 devices with actual hardware available to purchase within a month of announcement
>a few people clap

>some no source rumor states apple will copy linux/ms and also make their desktop os for ARM some several years in the future
>mactoddler pajeets shit their streets and claim it will be the second coming of christ

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but they aren't made in similar nodes
a76 is 7nm and the intel one is 14nm

Will ARM be able to compete with x86 on high voltages or its only a low power meme? At least motherfuckers will optimise their crap more for ARM.

>implying this hurts AMD
This only takes away from intel's marketshare.

AMD/ARM/Risc-V are competing all all different areas (high/mid end desktop/mobile/embedded/microcontrollers respectively and it's fucking over Intel's control.

AMD has plenty of room to grow still.

There's been talk of ios/macos convergence for almost a decade lad...
Where have you been?
IOS on Tablets and cells have way more users than MacOS laptops these days.
That's why they prioritize for IOS now and MacOS is lagging behind.
If they can get MacOS running on arm that allows them to really converge the two platforms(macos ipads?) and possible in another decade maybe even merge the two products.

>what is Windows 10 on ARM

windows will never die user, now that they separated the subsystems they can just write an emulator and make it run in anything

Most likely something to compete with Surface. In laptop mode its Mac OS and in tablet mode it's iOS. Probably way better implementation that UWP for apps as well.

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>95%+ of all desktop users use proprietary x86 software that will never be ported.
This is what a x86 shill looks like.
I'd say 98% of what desktops are used for are trivial tasks that can be achieved with hardware from the early 00's and proper software.
I would even go as far to say that 98% of desktops can be replaced with sjw-pi's running raspbian.

A steaming pile of shit

Are you completely clueless or just retarded?

>and proper software
Key phrase.
You cant even surf the web on a P4 from 2005 now because of how bloated everything is. Even using Jow Forums is a fucking pain without a specialized app because Chrome is such cockshit

This. OS instruction set is what dictates where the market will follow. Chromeshit will never outperform any windows.

2020 the year of ARM LOLOLOLOLOL

I'm a bit out of the loop: can ARM version of Windows 10 run x86 / x64 classic apps?

>t. brainlet who has no idea what he is talking about

That's not how you sell hardware, goy.

>driver and bootloader BLOB updates
As the user said, it's simple as that.
The arm ecosystem requires a shitload of binary blobs to run.
Yes there are some embedded boards with oss support, but those don't have usually gpus or anything related.
What will happen in this segment is similar to what happens with smartphone socs. The soc will require a blob that qc will support for 1-2 years and then it will be stuck on some ancient s/w and be out of support.
Even if ms backs this up with updates, you will most likely be unable to format it or at least have it 100% working on loonix.
X86 is relevant because of AMD64 and BIOS

In 10 years they will complete ReactOS. An open source offspring of Windows XP/Server 2003 will live forever.

It has not fizzled out yet. In late 2017 Landley said they are working on it. According to him they had had so much contract work they couldn't devout enough time to the open source SH4 core. Presumably, this means there is demand for their SH2.

AMD may even jump in on this trend.
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