Win fags will defend this

>3 + 4 x 7 is serious
burger education

That's not Windows now, is it?

glorious KDE master race

That’s how real basic calculators works OP

I know you’re a zoomer and you haven’t used a real calculator, but at least put some effort on your epic trolling

It doesn't do it when I run it in IDLE (Python3).

This happens because you put 3+4 which is equal 7, them you put x7 it will give you 49. There is nothing wrong with it. The basic calculators operates in the order you give it the inputs.

Can confirm it does not do it on my phone, OnePlus 5T.

Commtavity and associativity, nigger

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this does not happen on MATE-calculator wtf windows

ok here I go
PEMDAS is an accepted standard and how math is taught in high school and universities

Now you explain why anyone in the world, would not use PEMDAS, there is no proof that says PEMDAS is wrong, and is also not an accepted standard anywhere to operate without it.
Check.

>Jow Forums is too low iq to use a calculator
Just write the operation in the correct order.

Not going to give the others (You)s. PEMDAS is not correct at all since you can assign priority to those operators however you like. It's a convenience since putting parentheses everywhere is taxing.

I assume you did syntax analysis on PEMDAS and you found an ambiguous syntax in the parsing tree.
show us your findings.

PEMDAS is correct, at least it is correct in its implementation but it by no means is the ONLY way of implementing things. It is simply a convention to help with polynomials. The one thing that is absolute about PEMDAS, is the P. Parenthesis MUST be the first thing calculated ALWAYS, other than that it is all conventional and standardization so that Human A and Human B can agree what is written down.

Take OP's example: 3+4x7

Since all arithmetic is counting, do you mean to say (3+4) x 7? As in 7 sets of a set of two subsets containing 3 and 4 pencils added together for the altered set 7, giving you 49 pencils.

Or do you mean 3+(4x7)? 3 pencils added to 4 sets of 7 pencils giving you a total of 31 pencils.

The parenthesis (or an equivalent ironically enough) makes this all universal and transcends place of origin.

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Standard mode ignore PEDMAS,use scientific like a non retard.

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>however you like

Nope, simply left to right in order of PEMDAS.

Imagine being this stupid.

Arbitrary rules versus calculations in order. If you need to calculate numbers in code then use variables or at the very least use brackets.

>calculations in order
And this order, is something that was also pre-defined.
Everything made up by humans is arbitrary.

Standard mode is like how you would enter it on a calculator that can only handle one operation at a time like the old shitty calculators that are embedded into notebooks. It's doing it sequentially rather than viewing it as a single problem.

That's how Standard calculators work, they evaluate every operation as you enter it.

Pic related, Scientific mode, doesn't evaluate until you press =

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No sequential calculations are not arbitrary. They arrive in the order they need to be calculated in. Even if that order is someone adding up their receipts and toting it up on their win10 tablet

>the Windows calculator couldn't calculate sqrt(4)-2 without shitting itself until very recently

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Not using RPN like a pleb

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>american education

This you stupid niggers

Loonex doesn't have this problem.

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>ignoring PEMDAS
>nothing wrong

>standard
Because it's behaving the way a standard calculator would you brainlet
If you use the scientific calculator it behaves like a scientific calculator

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why do you even use your fucking PC for basic calculations

reverse polish is for gays, prove me wrong.

>Microsoft users are so braindead PEMDAS is an advanced concept.
you can't make this shit up

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windows calculator standard mode evaluates every operation automatically and doesn't wait for you to hit enter unlike the scientific mode.

>standard
>it's the standard fucking setting when you bring it up
hows that rgeebee wam working on your discord server?

what window manager is this

It's obviously designed for boomers who grew up before BEDMAS and scientific calculators were invented

The one that has thousands of bugs

nice way to say that Windows is designed for retards.

ok so all of them, thx

but what is it really though

KWin

it's doing it on the fly, what you see there is not a single equation but a two-step thing

oh also what theme

arithmetic operators have no inherent precedence rules

PEDMAS doesnt apply if you aren't smart enough to include parenthesis

Except they do when you mix addition and multiplication.

that's just convention

The need to introduce the order is inherent. The order itself isn't. If you're feeling especially contrarian lately you might assign addition a higher priority than multiplication and do that consistently throughout the expression, but you can't assign them an equal priority.

brackets don't replace PEMDAS

Windows 7's standard calculator gets 31.

infix notation was a mistake that should be corrected

you don't need precedence to evaluate an expression

>people struggling with pre-school maths
America was a mistake.

If you count evaluating it wrong as evaluating, sure.

is that a + or a divide sign, how do you have a png this fucking blurry?
is windows really that bad at text rendering?
either way it's wrong so I guess that doesn't matter

right and wrong depend on the chosen evaluation strategy

I'm using Windows 7 and I just did this equation and it came up 49, so I don't know what version of Windows 7 you might be running 'cause, no.

I think it's time to visit a doctor, user.

Windows font rendering doesn't work for UWP programs

You and Jerry are best buds, you always go around picking apples together on your dads apple farm while the Mexicans are out working.
You find 3 apples and Jerry found 4 apples. You guys always share your apples with each other but one day Jerry finds a genie that grants him however many apples he has times 7. How many apples do you guys have total?

>>using the built-in OS calculator for anything serious
Well it's kinda ass if you can't even trust the built-in calculator to work correctly

That's exactly how dumb 4-bangers work. Set it to Scientific if you want it to behave like a scientific calculator.

Evaluation without an order of operations is not even a valid evaluation strategy.

pretty sad, not sure why anyone would use such a shitty OS.

you don't need precedence to order operations

Correction: It returns 31 when the calculator is set to scientific rather than its default setup.

I forgot it was even a thing to change around how that calculator looked and works.

i wanna fug cirno

You do for a mathematically meaningful result. Might as well throw a coin.

it's because the standard mode doesn't follow order of operations for some shit reason

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Python3 doesn’t emulate a dumb calculator

BODMAS is the only real answer.

no but not including them just makes it confusing on purpose. Its literally the first letter

>this thread again

you have a very narrow view of the world

>standard mode
That's an input history, not an equation.

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Yes, it does.
PEDMAS is literally a method of inferring how the brackets are arranged.

>tmw you realize Android is smarter than windows

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I'm not sure what's more saddening - the fact that Americans need a fucking mnemonic to grasp operation order, since apparently four levels of operator precedence is an advanced fucking challenge for the meager remains of grey matter sloshing around in their Dorito receptacles, or that half of them STILL fails at it.
What causes such groundbreaking levels of stupidity, diet? Pollution? Too many nuclear tests on their own land?

Does your tribe leader know you are using the internet Abdul?

It's glorious KRunner

If you know a better browser than Internet Abdul I'd like to hear it

Cirno is NOT for lewd.

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PEMDAS is correct because it is the agreed upon standard. Maths is all about definitions and conventions and standards. Some of them are arbitrary, sure, but the doesn't make them any less correct.

that pic says otherwise
she's begging for it

That's her smugging at you for being a baka

Linux doesn't have this problem.

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macOS too desu

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3 + 4 * 7 = multiculturalism

Just plain comfy.

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Why would I use RPN like a pleb?