> Intel with their own foundries > not relying on being jewed by Asian foundries > decades of experience on iGPU design > the only reason iGPUs were were weak was patent hogging > patent hogging from NVIDIA > patent hogging from AMD > it appears some patents are expired in 2020
> paying NVIDIA, the ultimate jew that charges $1,200 for $200 cost of manufacturing. 3 shekels have been deposited in your NVIDIA shilling account
Asher Bell
Will it be as insecure as their cpus and will it's eula forbid independent benchmarks?
Charles Cook
GPUs can't run operating system code so it's irrelevant.
(if they could, NVIDIA would try to jew you to use their overpriced crap for OS stuff)
William Ramirez
Only clueless children would ask that. GPUs are independent of OS security. If that weren't true, NVIDIA would try to jew you to use the overpriced shit you bought from them for OS code too.
Levi Russell
Nobody cares, too busy laughing at Intel losing another 30% perf in VMware
Tyler Miller
If AMD who is the only other company with a real pedigree on the GPU side of things can't beat them do you think intel with raja will? Intel at best may be able to make some sort of APU in the near future which will probably not beat the ryzen APU either much less a full fledged card from nvidia. Be honest here, user.
> real pedigree > AMD You have been jewed. NVIDIA is nothing either. The only reason they look impressive is that there is no competition. AMD and NVIDIA are a cartel of patent hoggers. The only reason Trump isn't screeching against them is that they are both American (something similar is happening with CPUs). NVIDIA was a nobody that bought the 3dfx Voodoo IP and built upon no competition.
You think those $1,200 cards that cost $200 to manufacture are fair? Stop being jewed.
Luke Hill
JIZZ IN THE CPU POO IN THE GPU
BY YOUR ABORTIONS COMBINED I SUMMON INTEL
Jaxson Robinson
> I'm so smart > I buy $200 GPUs for $1,200 because there is no competition
Chase Miller
>i buy 28 core processors for $10000 Which company is scummier faggot, Intel or Nvidia?
Charles Nguyen
All three, Intel AMD and NVIDIA are a cartel of patent hoggers, you reddit tier fanboi piece of shit that you are still a child that can't have a rational thought without sucking the cock of one of the three.
The only reason Trump isn't screeching against them is that they are all American.
Austin Garcia
kys faggot intel apologist
Asher Peterson
Prepare for the >we released a driver patch but if you install the driver you are agreeing to not publish any benchmarks or benchmark results
Austin Ward
>contains 10 critical vulnerabilities intel won't tell you about >10 years later they're discovered >intel CEO sells stocks >intel takes 4 years to patch them >performance reduced by 50% At this point nobody should ever buy an intel product again. Only AMD exists for x86 until it gets a relevant competitor. AMD and nVidia for GPUs.
Jason Reed
Amd is still least worse. Intel and nvidia are vile, while amd incompetent(except for zen where they're mostly delivered) and i'll choose incompetence over vileness any time.
Samuel King
You meant AMD cpus + Nvidia GPUs. There's no other better combination in the market right now no matter if you're a fanboy or not.
Josiah Martinez
Fuck those faggots who claim there's no competition. You fucking cucks bought housefires and rebrands from 88xx to 98xx to 28x then 480 then 580 then 680 and lastly the 780... And you end up in 2018 claiming that there's no competition. Ofc the competition is dead when you buy gpus based on brand loyalty and marketing tricks. Now, go ahead and swallow the ray tracing cums shoved down your throats, before you preorder your "thewayyoumeanttobeplayed" gpu. This happens because you are stupid enough to realize that ray tracing isn't going to happen in at least 10 years, and you get surprised by demos with shadows off vs some new shadows.
Logan Allen
You can't say incompetent the only company whose innovations drive the x86 market since 2000
Colton Lewis
yeah it'll be a huge hit with intel's amazing driver updates for their iGPU, im sure they will be better for their discrete cards, just trust the kike, goyim
Lincoln Evans
He only asked you to post a photo of your nose, Shlomo
David Morales
nVidia is shit on Linux
Benjamin Wright
>nVidia is shit on Linux werks on my machine, pajeet.
Jaxson Jones
>only with 2000 hardware vulnerabilities >built-in non deactivatable intel management engine >publishing benchmarks is illegal
Ethan Morris
DELID
Gabriel Morris
Nvidia is shit everywhere. On windows and linux they disable support for features like DisplayPort variable frame rate, a.k.a. freesync, because they can sell you the exact same monitor with less frame variability range for $150 more.
Ayden Fisher
But nvidia monopoly is good, just to see faggot shills getting fucked in the ass
Camden Jones
>no Wayland >unstable >proprietary drivers which break compatibilities with updates It's trash. AMD+AMD (Ryzen+RX / Ryzen+Vega) is the only good combination on Linux. Not to mention that nVidia is absolute trash as a company. They're basically intel of GPUs.
Joshua Phillips
>werks on my machine Works until the next kernel update, or the next xorg update ...or it doesn't work at all, e.g. bumblebee, if you update your igpu's libraries.
Jason Young
Nope, it will be Larrabee round 2.
The real reason why Intel never went into discrete GPUs is because the market was too volatile for years and by the time it started to settle down and it wasn't worth the massive costs in R&D.
The real reason behind this stunt is that market is trying to play catch-up with GPGPUs that are starting to eat away at lucrative HPC market (Why it will end-up being Larrabee round 2). They still don't give two shits about the gayming market.
Kayden Torres
The company had a lot of missteps during its entire existence, the competitoris outright corrupt to the core and vile, trying to bribe everyone and lie, not giving a shit about security just for performance's sake, lots of anti-competitive practices and so on
Adrian Collins
The problem is that they are inventing something and making subpar products with it using abysmal managerial choices.
Nolan Hall
>t-they are all the same >they are all amercian fuck off kike
Carter Ramirez
>The only reason Trump isn't screeching against them is that they are all American. The reason trump isn't screeching against them is because him and his entire administration are probably too stupid to even understand what a GPU manufacturer is. Oh yeah, also he only bases who he "goes after" on whoever he has a personal problem with (bezos and amazon + WaPo).
Anyway, nvidia is nowhere near as bad as intlel. Yes, nvidia charges a lot, but they also consistently increase performance unlike intlel.
Isaac Hernandez
But vega is super power-hungry and polaris is old and slow. Do you really recommend it?
Isaac Powell
>I don't like Intel so I'd rather keep getting assraped by nVidia than see more competition on the market Classic Jow Forums.
Ryan Watson
>$3,080 ti
Cooper Mitchell
nvidia's competitor is AMD and they need to get their shit together. Intel won't do shit to nvidia, AMD can't either outside of the consumer side of things because CUDA.
Jonathan Anderson
Everyone says that as if vega draws 6,000,000 gorillion shoah watts under stress. That's not how it works. In the case of overclocking, vega has a shitty power-draw curve. But normally, it doesn't hog more power than something like a 1080
Nicholas Torres
AMD+Nvidia is patrician.
Parker Gomez
Misteps? Wait a second. Every single amd cpu had some engineering marvell inside it. Either because they had to r.e. sonething that intel should but didn't share, or because they had to offer the same or better performance and engineer it in a way to be more cost effective for the users. Intel isn't about security holes only. Intel didn't create the amd64 Intel didn't make qpi Intel didn't make nUMA multicore cpus until the first icore unlike amd did it with the first athlon x2 Intel did shutdown cyrix which made the first low power x86 devices, Intel didn't make the first numa cpu+gpu and they still haven't done it. Even with bulldozer amd managed to offer more I/O than the most expensive xeon in less than half the price. Bulldozer was the first modular x86 cpu design...which then moved to ryzen as ccx Bulldozer was the first cpu to introduce cache topology efficient for big cpus, which last year was copied by intel for their hedt and server cpus Bulldozer was faster that intel cpus twice the price if you didn't run pajeet s/w and you could saturate the cores. I am not even mentioning the clock mesh or core shutdown techniques used first in piledriver and then applied directly to zen. Even if you get the worst amd had to offer based on gaymen mentality, you see that they had innovated more in a sales failed product than intel did since the 80s.
Elijah Evans
At best that's a duopoly and at worst it's an effective monopoly because one of the vendors, like you said, is barely competing anymore. Great situation for us consumers indeed.
reminder that the nvidia linux driver that actually works sometimes is not mainlined and that their 10GB kenrel blob rewrites half of the graphix stack
Jaxon Thomas
Can't wait for intel to destroy GPU market with their jewish tricks. Well at least GPUs don't need to be secure.
Carter Ramirez
Enjoy your tearing, nigger. Both AMD and Nvidia have it, Intel GPUs are a joke.
Landon Morris
Kek, FPBP
Leo King
You don't need adaptive sync to fix screen tearing. Normal vsync will do.
Chase Wood
i watch videos on multiple monitors and I have zero tearing kind sir who does intensive gaming on an igpu ffs ?
Angel Perez
better question is: How many spectre/meltdown and other loopholes variants it will have ?
Austin Lopez
28 core monolithic die is actually harder to produce
John Williams
>vsync 1990 tech with massive input lag.
Michael Sanders
yr brain has input lag too
Sebastian Baker
so don't buy them goy
Aiden Ramirez
>>no Wayland that's novidya's problem
Jayden Gonzalez
not from what i've seen
Daniel Stewart
>1990 tech It's still fundamental to how monitors work, you dumbass. Anyway, I doubt you can fucking notice 1/60th of a second. Triple buffering is another technique to reduce the input lag too.
Hudson Johnson
Haha, look at this fanboy. AMD hasn't released a competitive GPU since like 5xxx series. And speaking of housefires...
Benjamin Morris
Tripple buffering and vsync are literal software hacks meant to do what monitors should have done 15 years ago.
Landon Jackson
>they need to get their shit together They can't really compete because nvidia has insane margins and if they invest in RnD to produce a decent GPU nobody will buy it because 1. mindshare 2. nvidia will simply lower the prices to crush the competition And by doing that amd will only increase it's debt. AMD made better GPUs than nvidia for 10 years straight but everyone still bought nvidia. Regardless AMD getting their shit together nvidia will still hold the monopoly unless intel intervenes with their jewish tricks.
Jackson Collins
You know that instead of actually trying to compete, Intel and Nvidia will try to fling shit and cripple the competition to the best of their abilities.
Christopher Brown
>if Intel enters the market nVidia goes away Are you people being retarded on purpose?
Nevermind, I guess you are.
Carson Reed
Vsync is not a software hack. The vertical blank is an actual signal sent by the monitor itself to signal the GPU when it has displayed a frame.
Elijah Cruz
>AMD made better GPUs than nvidia for 10 years straight what gpus?
Christopher Reed
They can't even get into the mobile processor market let alone GPUs.
Cameron James
Keep denying facts and reality
Adam Hill
> it appears some patents are expired in 2020 So now we will finally find out an answer to a question nobody (except Intelâ„¢ apparently) was asking. "How would 20 year old GPU, behave if made using modern (14++++++++) lithography?"
Cooper Allen
You must be over 18 to post here.
Oliver Gonzalez
Except 5xxx, 6xxx, 7xxx and r9 2xx were objectively better in all segments and also cheaper. Go shill somewhere else.
Joshua Edwards
>First GayPoo is 16nm >to be kill Indeed, Inturd a kill all the way.
Jaxon Martin
Stop complaining, choke on nvidia dick. This is the future you chose.