Let's assume I got funding and started developing HaikuOS exclusively for RISCV with competent team and long-term business strategy anticipating industry paradigm shift away from x86. That would be the only bet along with bet that rest of the world doesn't see it coming.
What would be the chances of beating both Microsoft, Apple and Linux on desktop?
Changing your ISA won't change the paradigm shift of your OS at all. The ones that will win the OS game will be the ones that provide the best support and compatibility for end users.
Andrew Perry
>What would be the chances of beating both Microsoft, Apple and Linux on desktop? Pretty much zero.
Blake Fisher
Well for starters changing the logo so it doesn't look like a 9/11 memorial.
Jonathan Smith
kek
Jaxon Davis
Your idea is nuts. x86 port would be still relevant, as pretty much everything you write would work for it, only code meant to support low level stuff on RISC-V wouldn't be usable. Considering that Haiku has pretty much no chance of becoming relevant to anyone besides people who still remember BeOS, you'd be just wasting time and money. Haiku has pretty much no software, and it will stay that way.
Dylan Bell
>Haiku has pretty much no chance of becoming relevant to anyone It's all about marketing.
Ian Foster
unironically, here is a good explanation from steve jobs why you are approaching the problem the wrong way: youtube.com/watch?v=hKE2U60tKY0
>compatibility Nothing, in any applicable business ever, has mattered more. The example I always point to is the television market and their input interfaces. Compatibility is necessary to make any global progress.
Look at Windows and WoW(Windows on Windows), IPFS and HTTP, POSIX and Wine, POWER and Lx86, etc.
I'm not saying this is the only way forward, but if you wanted to gain users, you'd have to do something unrealistic. You'd need to account for foreign ABIs across foreign ISAs. You'd need to be able to run an x86 Windows binary in Haiku on RISC. It's not impossible, just unlikely. However if you did it, you eliminate the reason not to migrate. If everything works as it does now, but you also have the option to run better native software in tandem, then you have the chance to get users.
Joseph Reed
Made me laugh.
Josiah Perez
>here's this reimplementation of a 90s operating system >the kernel is so bad things run slower the more processors you have >we have shitty webkit-based browsers, and that's peak of our software offerings >p-please use haiku
Also, no. Nothing is going to beat Windows or MacOS except for Android at this point, which is far enough away from Libre Software that it would make running it on RISC V moot.
I'd rather get a RISC V port of Debian or Gentoo working.
I also love Haiku even if it doesn't have fucking hardware acceleration or compositing. It captures the feel of what early Mac OSX was like, and it's a joy to use even though it's so tiny in comparison to other systems. I want it to succeed, but I don't know enough sepples to contribute anything meaningful. I'll probably drop some cash.
Nathaniel Robinson
Or god damned multiuser support. Hell, Haiku was the reason I decided to learn C and sepples.
Landon Flores
shat out everything i've eaten this year
Jeremiah Foster
Can you link to some Haiku docs for developers that you think are useful to read? I'm curious what the programming experience is like on/for Haiku.
Leo Jenkins
Go to HaikuOS.org and check out their TODO list. Hardware acceleration, multiuser support, porting POSIX programs, general userland work, updating Falkon and Webpositive, etc.
>Buzzfeed writer, Joseph Bernstein, was active in criticizing the show after a heated interview with the creator, Sam Hyde, in which Hyde called him a "blockhead"
Aiden Ross
Holy shit, I didn't expect that...
Anyway, consider contributing code or cash to the project. I'm learning C so I can hopefully get some commits approved.
Luis Young
They aren't actually terrorist, it's just a comedy group that makes videos which people find offensive. Someone thought it would be funny to pretend they were terrorists to trick news outlets with the same image. youtube.com/watch?v=2O81yiwBzuc
Dominic Reyes
Yooooooooo
Ryder Long
People are more likely to use TempleOS than your shit.
Adrian Johnson
Haiiu is beautiful. It just needs so much work done to be usable.
Angel Rivera
RISCV has tons of major backers, like most of the tech world actually. You aren't beating anyone to RISCV
Dominic Howard
>single user OS is this 1960?
Christopher Allen
It wouldn't work. Haiku OS is nice but has not software. Slapping it on new hardware won't change that. I think that RISC-V should run a custom Linux distro without systemd or Open Solaris with a custom made window manager that's based on Motif, which uses a more modern design. See image related, it was a UI mockup saved from an old thread about lo/g/os.
It still has no modern GPU drivers so mostly a toy for older computers
Brandon Evans
Surprisingly the window manager is so good that it only tears when moving windows and not when scrolling content. Which isn't an excuse at all, but does show that with acceleration it would be amazing.
Seriously, it depends on how much funding you get, you can beat everyone if you have a better product and more advertisement. Now think about the chances that you have to get this much money.
Daniel Martinez
Can you give away haiku on riscv in the form of smartphones so cheap and easy that major phone companies can give the units the fuck away with every contract/plan? If the answer is yes then you have a slight chance