*cracks*
CRTs are still superior to any LCD you can buy today in every way except for weight size and resolution. LCDs STILL cant even fucking display color as well as CRTs, and also since they hold each frame until the next one its absolute shit for moving objects.
*sips* LCDs are litterally the rubberdome keyboards of monitors.
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I'm with you brother! Only real people of culture and taste can even understand why a CRT is important and the best type of display around.
But you gotta just be happy that some people appreciate the good stuff...Super Smash Brothers Melee players, those guys are great. Their game has been around for SEVEN-TEEN YEARS and they still love to play it because they know that games like those just ain't around these days... They even use CRT because they know it's the peak of displays and perfect for competitive gaming...
Yeap, Melee players.. Now THOSE are guys with taste.
HDR is a thing OP look into it.
>LCDs STILL cant even fucking display color as well as CRTs
Actually they can now, but good luck getting a PC monitor like that. They can do it in 2 ways-
1. W-OLED, this is what LG uses for a lot of their OLED panels, it's an IPS LCD panel with a W-OLED panel bonded behind it, acting as the backlight for the IPS LCD, each subpixel triplet has it's own white oled pixel. It's expensive and the OLED component is subject to uneven wear and eventual burnout. None of the color-shift issues with RGB OLED are present though.
2. Stacking 2 high-framerate IPS LCD panels, Panasonic is doing this for some highend panels, it offers 1,000,000:1 static contrast and great motion, but for a 50" panel it need a ~300w backlight since the stacked IPS panels have exponentially lower transmittance than a single panel alone and most of these panel are destined for HDR where they want 800+nits
For a PC monitor, even today, FW900 is the undisputed king.
Why are superior technologies like CRTs, incandescent bulbs, manual transmissions, gas stoves, and mechanical hard drives dying out?
Because they're not superior technologies.
W-OLED has nothing to do with LCD. You have each individual W-OLED pixel lit according to the brightness level controlled by a driver, but instead of directly producing RGB colors there’s is a color filter layer on top of the panel sandwich. It’s actually closer to plasma displays in implementation.
>incandescent bulbs
Jews
Manual transmissions aren't going anywhere.
Most drivers who actually enjoy driving prefer manual.
>bbut more auto sales, CVT, dual-clutch!
Manual is still nicer than those for many real drivers.
>bbut I just said MORE more sales of autos!
Yes, for now - since more people are getting lazy, less young people are driving and the older real drivers are getting old and don't want to heel and toe anymore. Autos will continue to get more popular for a time, but soon they're going to crash.
They'll crash because of the rise of the electric car, which by and large are direct drive, no transmission at all. As the older generations die off and these young zoomers who don't drive at all get older, less cars will be sold total the rise of the electric car and the increasing cost of fuel will exacerbate this.
But those buying cars for the pure fun of driving will continue to buy manual, the sales might slow a little, but ultimately they won't drop like a stone, which autos will.
tldr: Manuals will outlive autos.
It's an IPS LCD layer, not just a color filter.
Continuously variable transmissions are superior to manual transmissions in every way, including fuel efficiency.
Incandescent bulbs are superior to CFLs (because CFLs flicker and have a shitty color spectrum) but LED blows it out the water.
Gas stoves have their place but as someone who owns one I wish I had an induction stove. Much easier to clean.
>HDD
I don't even need to say anything about this one
>tldr
That is a response to a long post. It doesn't mean "summary of a short post".
>I don't even need to say anything about this one
Did you leave your SSD off for a week and it got wiped?
Nice myth
Sony should manufacture the FW900's again. I'd buy one or two instantly.
>Continuously variable transmissions are superior to manual transmissions in every way, including fuel efficiency.
except for lifespan, otherwise, yes
So what is keeping that data written to the chips? Electricity. What happens when the SSD is discharged? It's wiped. Nobody will ever use SSDs for long term storage. They are a meme.
SSDs are non-volatile memory, brainlet.
You don't even know what that means. I'm correct, you are wrong.
I'm replaying as if you were serious:
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show me one CRT monitor that is advertised as being able to show more that 95% accurate DCI-P3 and Adobe-RGB color-space
I have left a SSD lying around in a drawer for a year and the data was just fine. Have you ever used a SSD or disconnected it for a long time?
Do you even know what you are talking about or are you just repeating myths you heard from slashgeeeh?
A year isn't long term. I know you've only lived 15 of them, but they aren't a long time.
not him but non-volatile memory refers to memory that doesn't need to be powerd to retain its state. Since SSDs can be disconnected from a powersource while retaining their state they are non-volatile memory.
>If a drive is stored at 25C or operated 40C, expected data retention for a client drive is 105 weeks, or nearly two years. Let the storage temperature creep up to 30C, or 86F, and the drive should still hold data for an entire year. Enterprise SSDs, however, have entirely different characteristics
you claimed SSDs would loose data after a week without power. A year has 52 of those, if you can count that high.
They don't retain their state. Their state is in constant decline once disconnected.
It's lose, not loose, you fucking idiot. I was being hyperbolic when I said one week. Do you have autism? Evidently you do.
by that definition nothing is non-volatile since the third law of thermodynamics clearly states that the entropy of any closed systems will only increase over time.
>I was wrong and iditotic on the internet
>someone pointed that out
>better correct his spelling and call him an autist, that way I remain the cool one on this anonymous image board
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So you think I literally meant one week, yet you claim you don't have autism?
So ideally you want your SSDs to run hot and if you're storing them, you should stick them in a wine a cooler immediately after powering off.
for your argument it makes a huge difference if an ssd can be powerd off for a week or two years since you are trying to asses their usefulness as a storage-medium. one week without power would be very bad since that is a realistic timeframe in which a non-archival storage medium could be offline. one to two years of offline storage would warrant an archival storage medium like tape since you are then clearly dealing with data that you don't acces on a regular basis.
CRTs are god tier for /vr/
they're only situationally relevant for anything else
Can you faggots stop talking about gay ass SSDs? Nobody cares if your mlp fanfictions get wiped after some time. This is a CRT masterrace thread.
I'll try to explain this again. Perhaps my words will pierce your autism.
One week was hyperbolic. I am not legitimately claiming it. Is that clear enough?
Traditional hard drives don't fare much better against the elements compared to SSDs. In fact I'm willing to bet they'll lose data in just about the same time (or faster) if unpowered, since they're even more prone to losing data to heat or anything magnetic.
>wasting a CRT on video toys
Fuck off.
It's the only thing the piece of shit is good for.
maybe you are the autist?
All I'm trying to tell you is that SSDs retain their data long enough for the usecase in which one would use non-archival storage media.
Heat and regular magnetic flux, they'll be fine.
You could put the data on it, leave the drive and come back in 10 years, it'll still be there.
The motor though, might not be so good after 10 years of not running, mechanical components don't fare so good.
If you ran it for an hour every 3 months, it'd be fine 10 years later.
No, it fucking isn’t. LG ditched W-OLED, they use filters on top of RGB OLED pixels to compensate for the organic degradation over time causing the color shift.
I think it'd be your fault for leaving them near magnets and heat sources regardless of age.
No.
Good luck coming back to an SSD ten years after powering it off. My HDD data will last forever without power.
Hey look, it's that rwtarded newfag from the other thread that shits on video games
This isn't /v/. Take your toys off this board.
>My HDD data will last forever
What is EMP
t. triggered boomer using CRT to masturbate on VHS porn
>falling for a 6-year-old shitpost
>he doesn't know arcade games came with professional grade video monitor tubes.
not user but shouldnt you say what you mean instead of getting angry at other anons that they didnt read your mind thru the pc
Not a concern for HDDs, but could kill SSDs.
How does that justify wasting CRTs on toys?
It was clearly hyberbolic. Stupid Amerimutts.
>Good luck coming back to an SSD ten years after powering it off.
You're right, I'm But you'll need to power it on every few months to ensure the motor doesn't fuck out on you.
Which if you're doing that anyway - why not do it to an SSD which will refresh the cell when powered on for an hour or so anyway?
Tape will last longer, but the tape itself won't last forever (but at least bearings for the tape reels won't corrode over time nor have oil to dry out, it's just nylon on teflon. You'll also need to ensure you've got a working tape drive 10 years later.
Optical discs will last the longest (provided they're good quality or even archival discs to begin with) so long as again, you've got a reader/writer that works 10 years later.
If you run an SSD for a minute every 3 months it will last for eternity. Or until it runs off of write cycles.
Consumer NAND flash has a retetion warranty of at least one year, but should be fine under normal storage for 3 to even 10 years maybe.
Ambient is a heat source.
EMP is absolutely a concern for HDDs.
Where are you going to get a new control board that is calibrated for your platters?
You can't just swap the boards on HDDs nowadays.
If you use CRTs you're a hobbyist. Stop trying to pretend you're better than the other hobbyists just because you use your CRT monitor for ricing your anime desktop instead of playing video games.
>wasting
>w-why nobody listens to my important opinions?
Arcade Games are not toys they are classified as entertainment gambling machines.
No you don't. My HDDs from 20 years ago all were fine when I last powered them on. That's just a meme. I'm not actively trying to back things up, that's what tape is for. I'm just going back and looking at data on old hard drives.
>Ambient is a heat source.
Not a dangerous one at all.
It isn't a concern at all.
You act like people just threw out their monitors and TVs when plasma shit came in.
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as SSD,
is in fact, SSD w/ NAND, or as I've recently taken to calling it, NAND as a SSD.
SSD is not a technology unto itself, but rather a name for a generic technology
used to implement a fully functioning NAND storage drive made useful by the flash memory, and non-volatile data storage as describe by onfi.org specification.
CRT low refresh rate cause brain damage.
I got sick with one years ago @85Hz
>it's an IPS LCD panel with a W-OLED panel bonded behind it, acting as the backlight for the IPS LCD
Where did you hear this? Not only is it wrong, it doesn't even make any sense to do it this way. The purpose of the LCD layer (in an LCD display) is to modulate the amount of light coming through at the subpixel level. Why add that to an OLED display, which already does that? It wouldn't make sense, unless the individual OLED emitters were much larger than a pixel, and either acted as a uniform backlight, or a sort of FALD.
The only possible advantage I can see is you'd get more even wear on the OLED, but at the cost of much faster wear (since more of the display has to be lit at high brightness if there's a highlight anywhere on the screen/in a FALD zone).
>LG ditched W-OLED, they use filters on top of RGB OLED pixels
That would still be WOLED - just using RGB emitters to make white instead of yellow/blue emitters. Anyway, do you have a source on that? I haven't seen any confirmation that they've made that switch.
>Manual transmissions
Ride a bike you fucking brainlet
shift logic for human legs is different than for ICEs but i get you
Aren't CRTs just sRGB? We have IPS and OLED displays that can do well beyond that.
A CRT's ONLY use cases nowadays are games and VHS/Laserdisc movies. Fixed pixel displays are vastly superior for office and most professional work and content creators appreciate the completely flat screens on LCDs.
maybe the colors are better but at least LCD isn't blurry and spherical
With oled and quantum dots, CRT is shat on when it comes to color
no its not you dumb ass. actually use a CRT before talking shit. oled looks shit still compared to CRT and microLCD prob will as well.
I've used CRTs most of my life, I still own my Panasonic crt and it looks like shit compared to my monitor
CRTs are finally obsolete for color work, there aren't any CRTs that can hit AdobeRGB or DCI-P3 like modern OLED. Hell almost all LCDs can hit 99% sRGB now. Why would you spout an opinion on something you know nothing about?
Except you are shooting yourself in the eyes with a CRT. Not really healthy.
Fucking Canon not pushing SED as it deserved to be and fucking Sony for dropping FED and for shilling OLED because "muh flexible screens".
fuck off with your shitty r*ddit forced meme
SED eliminates the #1 advantage of a CRT, the flexible resolution. dafuq is the point in a CRT if it has discrete pixels.
Downscaling a hi-res image on a phosphor screen is an absolute chore for the eyes.
Upscaling a low-res on a SED screen would be as crystal-sharp as on CRT just by using a nearest-neightbor scaling algorithm.
with a CRT you don't need to scale at all, you just scan at whatever resolution you want (dot pitch and sync frequency notwithstanding)
you have no idea what you're talking about
Colored CRT always had discrete pixels.
SED never took off because it would cost fuckload more than Plasma or anyone could afford.
>CRTs are still superior to any LCD you can buy today in every way except for weight size and resolution.
CRTs only downsides are weight, size and cancer. For odd display resolution standards sometimes the only option on the market is CRT.
Nigger wake up.
Unless you're talking osciloscopes that have phosphor evennly smeared over the tube the CRT screens have an array of pixels that were made outta RGB sub pixels.
The resolution was up to 720P and there were all sorts of problens focusing the emitters, image warpins, skewing and the colors going fucky.
Are the tiny cathodes on the SED electron emitter actually built to last?
>there are zoomers on Jow Forums RIGHT NOW that think CRTs are shit
Some people are old enough to have used them.
CRTs are massively inferior to modern LCDs
>dot pitch notwithstanding
read nigger.
How new to the Interwebs?
More like there are zoomers on Jow Forums right now who glorify tech they didn't have to put up with.
I hate those fags.
>AW DUDE I JUST DROPPED $300 ON AN AMIGA SYSTEM AND I'M ONLY GONNA USE IT ONCE TO TAKE PICTURES OF IT THEN NEVER USE IT AGAIN
In my defense I prefer CRTs because for some fuckin raisin, my eyes tend to hurt more with LCD screens, AND I see less visual snow on em. No defense for my porn floppies though, I just find it funny.
Shadow masks/aperture grills aren't the same thing as pixels.
It states it will increase or remain constant, but in reality it increases.
>CRTs
>large huge
>heavy as fuck
>piss poor image quality
>bombard you with xrays
>won't work with modern hardware unless you have a VGA port
>expensive
>LCDs
>light
>fits anywhere
>cheap as fuck
>supports HDMI, Display ports, but also DVI and VGA for older hardware
There is literally no reason to use a CRT in this day and age. Using a CRT instead of a LCD is like brushing your teeth with piss instead of toothpaste.
you can get a 1024x768 120hz crt for like 10$ easily any where in the world you idiot. they are not expensive.
and the super rare ones that might be expensive are still cheaper than LCD and literally don't exist any more.
Keep your toys off the road.
30 years old boomer here, I trashed all my crts last weekend.
I hope you mean a motorcycle and not a fuckin mamilmobile
Talking out of one's ass - the post.