How do we get people to take linux seriously?

It's known as date modified. Please fuck off and end your miserable life already, Pejeet. Microshit clearly does not pay you enough.

>I can't tell the difference between an operating system and a filesystem
How can we take you seriously?

Yes it can.

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Becasue you never HAD THAT feature. If you had it you would have found practical use for it.

i know
yet another proof that anti-linux threads are mainly created by ms street shitters

wtf, I hate gnu\linux now

that would be when it was changed, not created....

No it can't.

Then why does stat command have a switch for "birth date"?

No it can't. You're welcome to prove him wrong.

Not a single argument so far.

It literally can't - only last modified.

based
/thread

It was a joke comment, don't call it based.

Of course not, Linux is a kernel. The filesystem is supposed to solve that.

What does a message board thread have to do with a file manager?

Or maybe it's just not that important of a feature

>his kernel doesn't include a filesystem
And you call your little kernel a "kernel"?

Windows can't sort folders by size.

Dependant on the file system OP not the OS

stat -c %W myfile
will show creation time if the filesystem supports it.

>come up with a project idea
>have a project
>create project file
>work on it
>finish it
>"oh that was great, I wonder how long it took"
>open file properties
>accurately and exclusively shows only the date when you finished it
>"oh fuck"
If you never had this problem you're not a productive person

>ext4 also adds support for date-created timestamps
There you have it, /thread faggots

>Lunix: ehh.. we kinda do it. sorta. on certain filesystems. and certainly not the one that comes preinstalled.
>MS: Yeah we can sort by creation date.
How do you think this helps your point?

I used windows exclusively (for school, games, and leisure) until 2015, when I started dualbooting linux for some cs electives. Eventually I started using linux exclusively, and still use linux as my main os (reserving a windows boot for blizzard games and autocad). In all of my time using both operating systems, I've never needed to sort anything by date created. Date modified, plenty of times. But never date created. I would like someone to tell me how keeping track of such info would be useful.

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I don't think you know what a kernel is.

theres all sorts of problems with storing a "creation time", i.e. saving to temporary files or restoring from backups.

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Enlighten me, what a kernel is?

>preinstalled
You've never actually tried to install a distro, I can tell.

What alternative would you suggest then?

I use it all of the time, sometimes i want to go for a nostalgia wank so i'll sort my porn folder by date created

so? it still has the modified as well for those cases

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Can someone explain why someone designing a filesystem would decide to not include date created?

Yes I have, and they don't ship with sort by creation date.

I've used Windows my entire life and never once have I used this feature.

Why would you go around modifying old files anyway? It's like you hate archiving.

but it can?

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>What is version control

the real solution is version control, so the date of the first commit is the creation time. The hacky solution is what windows does, sometimes works, sometimes looks like it works but its wrong (this is the biggest problem). I was just saying it as a comment, it was my first post in the thread.

@67364601
A program which handles basic IO and communication between the hardware and software. A FS is not part of the kernel. Instead of blaming it on a kernel, blame the developers who made the filesystem you chose to install the OS on. Your thread doesn't deserve bumps nor do you deserve (You)s for being this retarded.

you have never worked on anything important

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GNU+Linux can sort image files by creation date in exif info.

What use exactly is the file creation time? It's not a reliable indicator of anything, unlike the file modification time. It's dependent entirely on the applications that interact with the file. For example, if your application saves files by renaming the old file to backup copy and then writing the new file, the file creation time will always be the same as the file modification time. If you move a file across a file system, that will also reset the file creation time.

linux.die.net/man/1/ls
>--sort=WORD
>sort by WORD instead of name: none -U, extension -X, size -S, time -t, version -v
>--time=WORD
>with -I, show time as WORD instead of modification time: atime -u, access -u, use -u, ctime -c, or status -c; use specified time as sort key if --sort=time

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I think rsync has an option to preserve original timestamps, but I'm too lazy to check the man page.

-t, --times preserve modification times
-O, --omit-dir-times omit directories from --times
-J, --omit-link-times omit symlinks from --times

this, how the hell isnt this possible on linux despite being shilled here 24/7

How is that different than sorting by date modified? I'm assuming you're not drawing over the image with Paint while fapping.

if you don't use version control, your projects are not important.

/thread
Can you stop spamming this now, OP?

You have never had a folder with over 9000 files you created yourself and never wanted to know which one you made first?
>ableton projects folder
>reason songs folder
>blender projects folder
>photoshop folder
>any games saves folders

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I use it in my shitposting folder, when i save random pictures online. Instead of having a complicated filename system which i need to increment i just sort by date.

The same goes for many things. Sort by date solves a lot of naming issues which i'm too lazy to solve

btrfs, ufs2, and zfs all have it dumbass.
Ext4 does too but its nestled away for some reason.

(You)

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I know this might be an advanced concept for you, but sorting by modification date would be the same as sorting by creation date.

try that in windows, many of them wont show the right creation time anyway

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>date created
Irrelevant information?

What is exif data

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>but sorting by modification date would be the same as sorting by creation date

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Right. Blablablablabla. You idiot.

this is the only way that i sort my files, i have so many "reaction images" the best way for me to get a grasp of where they are is if i think "is this a new image or an old image" I'm not going to name every single image.

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Oh dear, I should have known better. See, if you save images from the web browser, the creation and modification time are going to be the same. Since you're not going to be changing any of them, the modification time isn't going to increase. Was that simple enough for you to understand?

sort by exif data (not exclusive to windows)

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Stop trying to make desktop Linux a thing. It's not going to be a thing. It's an OS for servers and embedded devices and it's damn good at that. Other OSs specialise in the desktop; use the right tool for the job.

start getting organized, user

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It's also been a better desktop os than windows since around 2003. Stop pretending windows isn't absolute trash.

what method do you use for organizing all your images? I'd say i'm pretty organized but i wouldnt really know how to sort things beyond a couple of folders + creation date.

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I do it all the time, being able to find the most recent file is great, especially when you need to install or update a program

fuck off micropajeet

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i mostly use ranger and it can ???

linux is a kernel you moron. you can run whatever file manager you want and can write on top of that kernel.

>The same goes for many things.
So many things that you could only list one which involved shitposting on a mongolian basket weaving message board

Does any of the distros feature on-screen keyboard?

OP will not understand

but it can...

only pedophiles and terrorists use linux

No it can't. Willing to prove me wrong?

...

OP BTFO

see

Ahh yes, one of the distro that no one uses sure BTFO Windows 10.

this
I wish for Linux to die already.
It can't compete with superior windows OS. We have advanced stuff like software store and Xbox live for our entertainment.
We also get useful and relevant suggestions in our start bar.
inb4 ads
Yeah, sure, I didn't expect for freetard to understand that.

plasma isn't a distro you dumb fuck

>2018
>Windows Explorer still doesn't support tabs, when MacOS and every fucking Linux distro does by default

How do we get people to take Windows seriously?

I just organize them by what kind of picture it is, since some of them have so many variants.

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i'll give that a try, thanks

No, dolphin has been able to do this for years.

Windows spyware 10 B itself TFO

You know that many of your devices run linux, right?
There's no escape, the penguin is everywhere.
One day, a machine made out of titanium and artificial skin will be crushing the last human skull with it's feet, and it will be running linux.

M$ poojeets on suicide watch

You forgot that Windows has the excellent Explorer++, free to download, while still being able to play all the games you want, unlike Linux.

>one of the distro
Did you meant:
>kubuntu, mint KDE, openSUSE, Manjaro, Debian KDE, every major desktop distribution has KDE version or can be installed easily
?
Or are you pretending to be retarded?

date created is only used by brainlets, for example you rename a file - boom creation date should change, it's pretty meaningless. last modification date is a similar but actually useful concept, which has been supported by linux since the beginning.

by the way ext4 supports that feature for some time, but I hope no file managers will pick it up. the lack of this feature pretty much acts as a retard repellent.