>Create a parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >Learn how to build a PC Search youtube for a guide for your socket
Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses; eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose and graphics card pairing. >Don't use Speccy. Use HWinfo, SIV, etc. >For Win7 in Ryzen, refer to pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1 (embed)
CPU >R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming(dGPU optional) >R5 2400G/i5-8400 - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >Wait for 9700k - Almost surely best for 1080p gaming >R7 2700/X - Best high-end gaming/mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM >8GB - Enough for most gaming use >16GB - Standard for heavy use >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal
Graphics cards >RTX 2000 cards are worse performance per $ than current GPUs. Just a marketing gimmick to rip off idiots >Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others which have small heatsinks and low quality fans 1080p >RX 570/580 /w Freesync or 1060 6GB are standard 1080p 60fps+ options >1050Ti or RX560 for lower settings, or older games >GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor 1440p >Vega 56 /w Freesync, 1070Ti/1080 if you already have Gsync >GTX 1080Ti if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor 4K >Upscale from 1620-1800p. Maybe 2080Ti, but awful value. OpenCL work >Vega 64
Storage >Backup before using StoreMi >Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard
Display >Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models. >Always consider FreeSync with AMD cards >___sync is important for slower response time monitors (IPS) >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
The video card was already there from when I originally built the rig and lets me do multi-monitor.
So the processor would be a good upgrade then? It doesn't look like the motherboard is compatible with any >4-core processors, so an upgrade to that would be required too, then?
Most else at the various price points are just inferior. Obviously especially so for gaming if you're getting Gsync instead. So I'd say Vega56 with the Mbest or Pixio depending on whether you want faster and cheaper, or slower and HDR. 1070Ti with a 75hz monitor is okay though. I linked two of those in the thread before last.
Go for it. People rarely use more than just the one x16 slot for a PGU so like 90%+ of people don't need more than mITX.
It simply is. Only reason to get a 1050Ti for a long ass time not has been if you're limited to PCIe power. They are generally bad price:performance.
There was 15% off ebay yesterday. You had a few choices of good RX580 models for $215-225, 1070ti for around $400, Vega56 for around $425. Labor Day in a few days.
I personally wouldn't consider it worth the risk to go for a sketchy seller for something as expensive as a 1080 ti. Just bite the bullet and pay the full price.
Joshua James
daily reminder 144hz is a meme above 1080p
I will prove it to you right now: 1) You will only get to an average of halfway to 144 fps with modern games on high settings. 2) Therefore, you're only paying for half of the fps increase from 60 --> 144 fps. 3) If we extrapolate that out, that means you're only getting half of what you pay for. 4) If you buy a $650 1440p/144hz monitor, you're actually paying $1300 USD
Would you guys pay $1300 for a 1440p/144hz monitor?
Yeah, that's what I thought- it looks nothing like how I'd expect it to be packaged. Could be a factory make but I don't trust it, especially for $400
Luke Garcia
Where the fuck did I say 1300W? There is 650W prime platinum. It's normally $130, but it's often on sale for around $85 at which point I recommend it.
Right, exactly. If you're going 1080Ti, you go Gsync like the PG279Q because you're planning to get the RTX 3080Ti next year when it's shrunk to 7nm. But then you don't have HDR. Pretty lmao. Obviously I recommend Vega 56 with the other 2 better monitors more.
You're leaving out that you need lower AA settings and post processing at 1440p which offsets the increase in pixels a bit.
Asher Cox
on NVIDIA's website for the 2070 they recommend a 550W PSU, do you think a 500W will be good enough for when it releases?
Evan Howard
What should you consider when buying a Wi-Fi/Bluetooth card/s for your PC? The Motherboard that I'm looking at doesn't have it built-in.
Luis Howard
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Aiden Bell
> Where the fuck did I say 1300W? *I* said 1300W. It's literally in the post that you replied to. By replying to me, it's implied that you're talking about the power supply I'm asking about.
Brody Roberts
Does Ryzen master not have full functionality with X370? I can't make changes to PBO with it even though I can adjust them in the bios.
Lucas Turner
Should I wait™ for 2000 series? Will the 1000 series be cheaper now or after 2000 series drops?
Should be fine. Hm let's see. >RGB Faggot manchild. >Not RGB Mature manchild.
Mason Turner
>implying anyone will come into your room and see your pride rainbow lights >implying you'd want anyone in your room anyway This is actually all of us since it's impossible to find non-rbg motherboards for some reason
Brandon Morgan
They're LEDs that allow you to customize the color and lighting effects. So no they don't only cycle through the rainbow unless you want them to.
Jordan Hughes
They're LEDs that allow you to customize the color and lighting effects. So no they don't only cycle through the rainbow unless you want them to.
Liam Moore
You consider spending an extra $40 on a motherboard with the features instead of spending $40 adding those features
Josiah Hall
Upgrade path to pic related: pcpartpicker.com/list/973tLJ It's going to be a gaming machine, a devbox (compiling), 3D workstation, writing area, digital art machine, file server, server for a few odds and ends, with a ZFS root drive. The 1950x is a standin for the 2950x. >inb4 "SSDs too expensive!" Better density = more storage that fits inside the Cerberus, which in turn fits inside my backpack, making it easy to take on a plane/travel with it in general, as I do a full move ~3-4 times a year. >inb4 "get the evo" It's going to be a heavy I/O machine with lots of varied heavy duty tasks all day and probably most nights. >inb4 "why optameme" I want maximum reliability and speed, so the Optane drive will be used as an L2ARC on the ZFS pool, and the others will sit as backup/boot drives. This'll keep any stuff that I need that doesn't fit on RAM in a nearly-as-fast cache for perfect random access.
Anything you think I could add to this? I think only 4 2.5" SSDs would fit (2 racks on the bottom). I might be able to squeeze in an extra two, but that really depends on how well I can manage my cables inside the Cerberus, and if there's enough room after everything else is added.
Posting this again please help >build a pc >it has an issue with the monitor display suddenly losing connection to dvi especially with WoW open, somehow switching to hdmi makes the performance TANK, if it even lets me switch to hdmi and doesn't also make hdmi have no signal >ok it doesn't happen for like two weeks, I open wow once again, instantly lose dvi monitor connection >no fucking idea why it does this, although the parts had been sitting in my room the actual useage of the pc is fairly new only started using it weeks ago after I build it >i know graphics card is hot but even when it's barely warmed up I lose dvi connection instantly just opening WoW >the only way I can fix it is by powering off everything and unplugging everything, waiting, then plugging it back in. this doesn't always work What is going on and how do I fix it? I don't THINK it's a virus but it could be, I used free malwarebites to scan found nothing, I remember installing some free software when I first built it though. Could buying a new dvi cable fix it? And yes, using an hdmi cable which should be fine actually fucking tanks performance it's just unplayable. This is my monitor amazon.com/ASUS-VE228H-1920x1080-Back-lit-Monitor/dp/B00413PHDM
Cool. I'm definitely getting it but I can't decide what color to go with. I think silver looks best in the widest range of environments, but black matches all my other hardware better.
Did you buy it direct from Taiwan? If you don't mind, what shipping did you go with and how long did it take?
Benjamin Lopez
1080p, dont pay for 1440p/4k to watch fucking anime. jesus christ
Ethan Sanders
Threadripper in mATX is nice, I'm doing a 2990wx build tomorrow (but in a define c).
Your ram is pretty slow, TR2 can do 2933.
I'm a bit confused about the three layers of SSDs. I think it'd make a lot more sense to go more optameme cache and then solid 860 evos. Or drop the optameme and add more 970's. I really don't see L2ARC paying off in front of SSDs, and fragmented storage is annoying.
Gabriel Edwards
Its just one of EVGAs lower end offerings. I got an SC2 for $669 so $649 for the SC looks normal Even $649 isn't unusual for a basic 1080 Ti
Jeremiah Ortiz
4k is only good only on large displays, if you need your UI to take up as little of the screen as possible. Sure it's nice for watching native 4k content if you're willing to pay a whole lot extra for something not even related to performance, but do they even produce anime in that res yet?
William Scott
Ya I missed it. What do you need 1300W for? Well it depends what the alternative that you're looking at it.
Given how bad the 2000 series will look in legitimate benchmarks and testing methodologies for their price. Also Nvidia is going to have "special" review drivers like they had for the 900 series. Really going to depend how well Nvidia and the paid marketing "reviewers" trick people. If it's an objective assessment without any bullshit, 1000 series prices could go back up to how they were a month ago as it's clear that they're better value even at those prices compared to the new $600/$800/$1200 cards.
is it still a good card if im looking for 1440p 144hz with high settings? if it struggles a bit ill get the ftw3 for 800
Wyatt Reed
All 1080 Tis are mostly the same, a FTW3 is only 101mhz better at boost than a SC Even when overclocking even if you lost the silicon lottery your not going to be far off from a GPU that has won the silicon lottery
Tyler King
Next one I build will be a much more subdued, smaller, and sensible rig. No lighting, window, or other blingy shit. Just a simple, functional system for my requirements i.e. gaming, media, internet, and fapping to really good porn.
Jason Scott
Is Windows 7 still worth installing on a gaming PC? I have a i7 6700k
Adrian Hall
>4K is only good only on large displays No it's not. DPI scaling exists.
4k >Will having a great graphics card help or should I focus more on good ram and a CPU? 2200G/2400G has VP9 decode and the 2400G is powerful enough to do some reencoding.
It's fine. It's double fan on a card that can get hotter so you might not want to OC it much, noise wise.
It's EoL in a year. You can look into the enterprise version of 8.1. I forget the name.
Luis Young
Is 430 for a new evga 1080 a good deal? I am thinking about buying that and a freesync monitor to use with my old amd gpu, or if that is dead then use my rx 480 4gb, since it does not seem to be cutting it recently, especially in games like subnautica. Runs very hot in that game
Cameron Sanchez
no, get 8.1, 7 is a boomer meme and its fucking terrible, even windows 10 is better now
John Ramirez
Would it be worth it to put 4x140mm fans and 5 x120mm noctua redux fans in a Corsair C70?
Ryder Bell
What % of my fans should be exhaust? What % should be intake pls help
Parker Clark
Hello friends!
I'm planning to buy these remaining parts in this build (probably leave the cooler for later)
Just wondering which GPU to go for in the end, I have my eye on a rx580 until 7nm release.
What do you guys reckon? I have a 1080p 60hz monitor right now, but would like to buy a 1440p 75-144hz by xmas when I'm not a poorfag.
Andrew Turner
Positive pressure seems to be better which means more intake than exhaust
One exhaust in the back One or two exhausts at the top of case if it has them Then 2-3 exhausts at the front. The best arrangement should be have intake from front and exhaust at the back. Don't bother with meme positive and negative arrangement shit. Just maximize airflow. Make sure non of your fans(like say a side panel fan, this should be exhaust) is pushing air directly into your GPU or CPU(they have their own fans) cause then that's just gonna be trapping hot air into the parts and works against. Just use your common sense to make sure that the air circulation is smooth. >Positive pressure seems to be better which means more intake than exhaust It doesn't really matter though right? Unless your an autist or you've got an insanely hot rig
Nolan Perry
>2018 >8gb ram Also you'd be buying a 2+ year old GPU but the 580 is a good choice since its high bandwidth and vram will make 144p fine not to mention fine wine
>H60 It's shit. >rx580 until 7nm release That's a fine plan. > would like to buy a 1440p 75-144hz by xmas when I'm not a poorfag. Sure, go for it. There's lots of 1440p 75-144hz freesync monitor options between $250-$400.
Colton Scott
But I can't afford a pg279q, at least not a new one that isn't on sale, and I don't know if I'm okay with paying $500 for gtx 1080 performance.
Camden Collins
Noob here. How important is it to OC? I plan to get a gtx1070, 1080p for now, maybe 1440p in future. Will I be happy with a 2600x if I’m too scared to OC a 2600? Will that last me through next gen? Or are the benefits of OC’ing too good to ignore?
Michael Reyes
Ditch the liquid cooler and get an equivalent priced air cooler. It will most likely work better or save some money and get something modest like a 212 if you just want something better than the stock cooler
>It doesn't really matter though right? It really doesn't but most cases will end up being positive if all fans are set proper
Luke Torres
With Ryzen 2 in general, overclocking isn't as necessary because xfr does a good job of boosting on its own. That said, the 2600 would see more of a benefit than the x model from manual ocing. But if you're going to bother to build your own computer, you might as well familiarize yourself with the bios. Overclocking is really easy.
Samuel Adams
I'm getting the new build itch. Have a 4790k 1070 build that's treated me well, but yeah that itch man. I've been pricing lists for like a week now and eyeballing what I want.
My question is how do you guys unload old builds? I will want to sell off everything but my drives and power supply. So case and all, should I Ebay it as a package? Or should I take the loss with my case and Ebay the parts separately? I could do mobo/cpu/ram/cooler and then 1070 separate. But shipping an Air 540 as part of the deal seems like more hassle than would be worth it, idk.
>But I can't afford a pg279q, at least not a new one that isn't on sale, and I don't know if I'm okay with paying $500 for gtx 1080 performance. What you're saying doesn't make sense. You can try to use an AMD GPU passthrough to use freesync with an Nvidia GPU, but Nvidia may block that at any time. If you want something that "just works" you have 3 options >Use AMD GPU with Freesync monitor to enjoy games running as high as they will for cheap. >Use Nvidia GPU with a 75hz monitor that you can generally always keep above 75fps on. >Use Nvidia GPU with a $300-$1200 more expensive display for higher refresh rate. You can't change those options just by complaining about none of them being ideal to you. You're being hung up on Vega costing slightly more for the level of performance, but it's massively cheaper when you factor in monitor cost. Nvidia is tricking you into thinking their (Pascal) cards are cheap when the reality is that Gysnc is expensive as fuck.
If you don't want to OC, then don't. Just get the 2600X. Just enable PBO in Ryzen Master on it.
Evan Ward
Thanks for the Jow Forums family
Yeah I'll upgrade the ram to 16gb @ 3200mhz by the time I get a new monitor, or GPU.
Zachary Wright
Manufactures have gimped OC quite abit since the past so its very hard to actually do any damage. Just make sure your temps are acceptable and your not doing anything stupid. Lots of YouTube videos can walk you through OC'ing and as they go through they'll teach a few things so you'll understand how to safely OC. Though honestly its nothing to worry about. The benefits can be pretty good. I added about 30fps by OC my CPU and GPU aswell as ram. But I only did that after owning my PC for 5 years since its showing age. With what you got I'm guessing you shouldn't even bother as your getting good performance anyways. And if something goes defective in a few months you might blame the OC. When its just a defective part. So for peace of mind only OC after awhile and when games start getting too demanding. You'll get more out of an OC if your already struggling to get 60fps but your 2600 will be golf at stock for along time. OC will be barely noticeable because your thing can handle Shit already
Austin Brown
Talk me out of my next build being in this chassis. Please, do so. I think I'm falling for the RGB meme.
RGB is a meme, half the time you won't be looking at it anyway.
spend that extra money on performance
William Garcia
Good stuff Its gonna distract the fuck out of you whilst fucking with your PC. And if it doesn't then that means you can't even see it so it's a waste of money. But anyways give into your degenerate impulses if it makes you feel better. Just like you jerk it to dickchicks even though you know its disgusting
Dylan Watson
There would really be nothing wrong with these modern cases if they stopped going the route of "glass box to put your motherboard and gpu in but no much else" Wopping 2x3.5 drives, shitty OEM cases hold more
Ethan Cook
>Just like you jerk it to dickchicks even though you know its disgusting
I'm not even ashamed to admit you hit the nail on the head here. I'm gonna do it, I should just get it over with already. I'm a sucker.
Gavin Ward
>just like you jerk it to dickchicks n-no i d-don't
8700k and 1080ti now since the latter is on sale or wait to see how the RTX's perform when released? I game at 3840x1600 on an OC'd 1070 FTW that is working it's ass off for me btw.
Charles Cooper
I fell for the mechanical keyboard meme. Kill me.
Caleb Stewart
I haven't fallen for them yet. Redpill me
Jordan Butler
I have roughly the same setup as my friend (i copped his build almost 1:1) except he has 16gb ram vs my 8, and a 650w psu vs my 550. The cpu and gpu are the same. How come that his rig gets better framerates than mine? (Yes i know gaymen, im sorry). My rrivers are up to date btw
Jack Johnson
Even without RGB, it's not a very good case.
I mean I just gave the run down on them in a previous keyboard >mechanical keyboard is only worth it if you hand pick the components and assemble it yourself, unless you've used the exact model and configuration already and know it's perfect for you off the shelf.
You could be using too much ram? You know how to view task manager, right..? Did you do a fresh install of windows?
Hunter Thomas
Steal that sale if it's a really good deal, otherwise disappoint yourself when RTX releases and pay for it with empty pockets.
Nolan Fisher
Should I pay up now and get an IPS panel 1440p\144hz, or get a TN for half the price and upgrade a few years later maybe along with the gpu? I have a GTX 1080 now and a pretty decent IPS 60hz panel from way back.
Xavier King
Not him but mech keyboards just feel better and overall there just a higher quality keyboard. Most people just buy one and be done with it but for some others it can be an obsession, You go out and buy some normie brand keyboard like cooler master or corsair and find its not enough and then go for something higher end like a ducky but it still isn't right next thing you know your on geekhack tossing money into a groupbuy for some keycaps to top off your own assembled and soldered keyboard's key switches that you painstakingly chosen after using multiple other keyboards with varying switches
>but other buyers are likely to be miners Mining is basically dead so I doubt there miners
Ryan Clark
No, i didnt do a clean install. The ram usage never goes above 5,5 gigs during gaming, i checked that
Leo Scott
Idk mang, half the bids look identical. (5 cards at 130USD). I wanna try steal one.
And people in my country are retarded (NZ)
Alexander Gomez
I would try to go for it but don't bid too close to what you would otherwise pay for the same card at whatever retailer or website you people in NZ like
Julian Cook
I guess $200. Even if they're brand new in box, they won't have warranty as that's not transferable. And miners generally aren't buying GPUs except where it's cold all year round, and even then..
Why wouldn't they be compatible? Only thing that would vary is m.2 length.
You used an old install of windows for previous hardware? You should do a fresh install of windows.
Oh well NZ dollars, probably well over 250 for them. Also depends if your countries laws force them to have a transferable warranty, then they're worth more.
