/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>Create a parts list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Learn how to build a PC
Search youtube for a guide for your socket

Want help?
>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build
>List your uses; eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose and graphics card pairing.
>Don't use Speccy. Use HWinfo, SIV, etc.
>For Win7 in Ryzen, refer to pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1 (embed) (embed)

CPU
>R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming(dGPU optional)
>R5 2400G/i5-8400 - Consider IF on sale
>R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs
>Wait for 9700k - Almost surely best for 1080p gaming
>R7 2700/X - Best high-end gaming/mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform
>Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT

RAM
>8GB - Enough for most gaming use
>16GB - Standard for heavy use
>32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this
>CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal

Graphics cards
>RTX 2000 cards are worse performance per $ than current GPUs. Just a marketing gimmick to rip off idiots
>Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others which have small heatsinks and low quality fans
1080p
>RX 570/580 /w Freesync or 1060 6GB are standard 1080p 60fps+ options
>1050Ti or RX560 for lower settings, or older games
>GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor
1440p
>Vega 56 /w Freesync, 1070Ti/1080 if you already have Gsync
>GTX 1080Ti if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor
4K
>Upscale from 1620-1800p. Maybe 2080Ti, but awful value.
OpenCL work
>Vega 64

Storage
>Backup before using StoreMi
>Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD
>2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB
>M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard

Display
>Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models.
>Always consider FreeSync with AMD cards
>___sync is important for slower response time monitors (IPS)
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING

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is the R5 2600 better than the i5-8400 for gaming? which one is easier to manage for a brainlet?

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i got a 1440p 165Hz screen. Recently I upgraded to a 1080Ti and there is a severe bottleneck with my i5 4670k (it stutters like hell at high frames) so I want to upgrade to a Ryzen.
Thing is that Ryzen 1800x is 80 euros cheaper than the 2700x, how much is the difference between both?

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I wonder if Zen 2 will come with more low-end CPUs

Yes

what are some reliable motherboards and storage components?

>which one is easier to manage for a brainlet?
Considering you don't need to worry about ram timings/overclocking (or PBO) or anything like that the 8400 is easier.

For strictly gaming the 8400 better right now if A) you don't stream, B) your game doesn't benefit for additional cores/threads C) the game doesn't hit 90-100% usage. The 8400 is the worse long term investment though due to being on 1151 platform, being locked, the security issues with Intel and that it only has 6 threads.

>is the R5 2600 better than the i5-8400 for gaming?
Yes.
>which one is easier to manage for a brainlet?
i5-8400.

how do i stop being a brainlet and learn to manage the r5 2600?

Watch tutorials on jewtube or pay some extra for 2600X and B-die RAM.