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CPU >R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming(dGPU optional) >R5 2400G/i5-8400 - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >Wait for 9700k - Almost surely best for 1080p gaming >R7 2700/X - Best high-end gaming/mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM >8GB - Enough for most gaming use >16GB - Standard for heavy use >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal
Graphics cards >RTX 2000 cards are worse performance per $ than current GPUs. Just a marketing gimmick to rip off idiots >Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others which have small heatsinks and low quality fans 1080p >RX 570/580 /w Freesync or 1060 6GB are standard 1080p 60fps+ options >1050Ti or RX560 for lower settings, or older games >GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor 1440p >Vega 56 /w Freesync, 1070Ti/1080 if you already have Gsync >GTX 1080Ti if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor 4K >Upscale from 1620-1800p. Maybe 2080Ti, but awful value. OpenCL work >Vega 64
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Display >Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models. >Always consider FreeSync with AMD cards >___sync is important for slower response time monitors (IPS) >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
i got a 1440p 165Hz screen. Recently I upgraded to a 1080Ti and there is a severe bottleneck with my i5 4670k (it stutters like hell at high frames) so I want to upgrade to a Ryzen. Thing is that Ryzen 1800x is 80 euros cheaper than the 2700x, how much is the difference between both?
I wonder if Zen 2 will come with more low-end CPUs
Charles Smith
Yes
Hunter Cooper
what are some reliable motherboards and storage components?
Daniel Gonzalez
>which one is easier to manage for a brainlet? Considering you don't need to worry about ram timings/overclocking (or PBO) or anything like that the 8400 is easier.
For strictly gaming the 8400 better right now if A) you don't stream, B) your game doesn't benefit for additional cores/threads C) the game doesn't hit 90-100% usage. The 8400 is the worse long term investment though due to being on 1151 platform, being locked, the security issues with Intel and that it only has 6 threads.
Adam Roberts
>is the R5 2600 better than the i5-8400 for gaming? Yes. >which one is easier to manage for a brainlet? i5-8400.
Isaac Green
how do i stop being a brainlet and learn to manage the r5 2600?
Noah Peterson
Watch tutorials on jewtube or pay some extra for 2600X and B-die RAM.
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card
Should I buy a 144hz 1080p monitor or a 75hz 1440p monitor? Would also appreciate some good budget keyboard and mouse sets for under £50. Thank you.
Sebastian Butler
In reality, both CPUs are equally easy to manage for a brainlet. However, with the Ryzen chip you can overclock if you see fit to. Like the other poster mentioned, get B-die ram if you can, but it's not necessary.
Michael Howard
Is there any way to tell Strix cards apart? I'm supposed to be receiving a 1080ti strix from a guy, but I pay at the post office and I want to make sure it's not a 1070 or something.
Jaxon Allen
Brainlet here who's never owned anything other than a laptop. What kind and number of ports should I expect on full-size graphics cards? I'm building a pc to use with my cintiq pro which has one hdmi and one displayport. I'm looking to take advantage of the latter, but I'll need to find a gpu with displayport if not all of them have it.
Jose Howard
Most of them have DP
William Diaz
>muh B-die RAM no longer necessary for Ryzen2 in fact Ryzen2 is mostly plug-and-play and doesn't require the kind of micromanagement the original Ryzen was infamous for
Josiah Collins
Thanks, one less thing to worry about. Is that why hardly any motherboards seem to have displayport?
Matthew Jenkins
>RX 570 costs +500$ where I live AHHHHHHHHHHH FUCK THE 3RD WORLD
Is going from bronze rated to gold rated psu worth $20? Assuming other specs are more or less the same.
Brody Hughes
What can £190 or so get me GPU wise lads? willing to go used. If you're lucky you might get an American user in a state without sales tax to buy and send you something a la buildapcproxy. But then again it's Jow Forums.
Brandon Williams
Looking to upgrade cpu/mobo/ram. Budget ~550 eurobucks. How's this: pcpartpicker.com/list/jTbX4C Main use will be gaming. Already have a cooler so ignore that.
Won't buy amd ;^)
Christian Perez
>Won't buy amd ;^) Then get the 8400 or 8700k. 8600k is overpriced, only 6 threads and does about as well as the cheaper 2600x that has more threads.
Landon Lewis
give me one reason why 8600k over 8400
Kayden Howard
OC
Aaron Ramirez
>Budget ~550 eurobucks >8600k over 8400 because OC Lmao Better sell your gpu and buy that titan V. Also, don't forget those rams with something that has LED; everyone knows LED=faster.
Levi Jones
I have like 400USD total I'll use the machine for gaming, mostly blizzard games honestly. I'm not sure what graphics card or monitor would be best, like 1920-1080 60hz and then whatever the budget will allow I have a keyboard and mouse but that's all right now ,I light be able to get a free monitor from a buddy that's really old and only works with VGA but I wouldn't want to use that permanently
I dont know what I'm doing honestly, I just want to play much vidya games and be a blizzard-activision shill.
Jayden Gomez
to get like 2% difference?
Jordan Ortiz
Sure but it's still a nice boost with least problems.
>4phase Enjoy the meltdown, hardware, software and psychological. :^)
Josiah Thomas
Ok let's say i get the 8400 instead then, anything else I should swap out while i'm at it?
Adrian Butler
You'll probably 10 fps more *at best*. Is that really worth the $90-100 increase over the 8400? Also keep in mind that you'll need a significantly beefier cooler than you would for the 8400 because of that 5ghz OC. Not sure what your issue with AMD is, but for the money you're paying you're just wasting it needlessly. Get a B360 or whatever mid tier Intel motherboards are called and get 2400mhz ram (or whatever the highest mhz the mid tier boards can handle).
Camden James
Ryzen 3 2200g and RX 580gb or Ryzen 5 2400g and wait for the graphics card?
Bentley Robinson
RX 580 8gb i forgot the 8
Joseph Nelson
If you do get 2200g, don't get a brand new graphics card yet. The next zen cpus are right around the corner. Waiting is probably better than a new build from scratch, at this point of time.
Anthony Brown
>Doesn't spend on rgb >Doesn't Spend less than $400 on a cpu >Doesn't Spend less than $50 on a case >Doesn't Spend less than $300 on a gpu >Doesn't have 64 gigs of ram
I want my build to last for a while. I'm still in hs and i'm not going to be upgrading a lot or starting another build if i do the one im speaking of now
Josiah King
>best PC case There is no best, it's all a case by case use basis.
Hunter Gray
What for? WT or PES are just fine on 2400G if that's all you need...
Isaiah Morgan
well what case do u have my man? how do u like it?
Leo Morris
Choose a size format you want. It'll be easier to make suggestions based on that
Hudson Cox
Gmod online rp is the heaviest at the moment but ill probably get games like fallout 76 and other AAA titles in the future
Eli Thomas
NZXT H440. I would not recommend it, the intakes are very choked out by the front panels. There are better cases nowadays that are just as aesthetic. But Fractal, Coolermaster, NZXT, and Silverstone all make great cases in general.
Carson Roberts
HELP!
What is the port on the top right is for? It looks like its for SATA/PERIPHERAL but it says its for 6+2 PCIE.
1800x vs 2700x for 1440p gaming. Worth the extra 80 Euros?
Jacob Russell
best way to do determine this is to run task manager while you're drawing the canvas and check your CPU, RAM, and GPU usage
Ethan Stewart
If I buy I5-8600k and put it unto a B360 cheapset will it be fine? I want to do no overclocking and use it with the default 3.6 GHz. I just have a good deal on it only 10 bucks extra compared to 8500. Or it requires Z310?
Asher Foster
looks like the 6 pins are sata and the single 8 pin is pcie/cpu. you can tell because all the 6 pin connectors are the same (the shapes of each pin)
Jace Reed
i have a 4770k. is it time to upgrade to 2700x? My rig still chooches all right, she still handles everything i throw at, but just a bit slow sometimes. I can wait till 7nm if that is going to be second coming of JC like amd shills are making out to.
Jeremiah Hill
>I5-8600k and put it unto a B360 cheapset will it be fine? Get a 8400 then. If you're not overclocking then don't get a k-sku CPU. You're literally paying a premium in order to OC.
Hudson Cruz
I'd reccomend holding off it's reasonable but today is the last day to get the TX 580 red dragon 8gb for 187 with the code on ebay so its hard to say what's better for you.
Camden Campbell
Your case format will determine what parts you get, so seeing as you're building from scratch you should choose the case size first
Pic related, these are the industry standard formats. ATX is what most people get; ITX saves space but you will be paying more for miniaturized technology as well as dealing with higher cpu tempuratures
Strongly reccomend phanteks p400 of it's in your budget, airflow is likely you're biggest concern so there are many 50 under cases that would be good for you.
Henry Jackson
Oh so it means the eztra CPU power and PCIe shares tye same port? Thankfully I don't need it.
Also explain why my previous Cx550m died. I may used the top right port for my graphic card somehow. Thank god the PSU died without taking my GPU and I got a new one from reseller. Really bad marking on the ports from Corsairs.
Owen Lewis
>Get a 8400 then. If you're not overclocking then don't get a k-sku CPU. You're literally paying a premium in order to OC. 8400k is 2.8 GHz, hard to believe 0.8 GHz makes no difference.
my guess would be because video coming from the mother board like from an iGPU wouldn't benefit from it and HDMI is just fine for that scenario
Dylan Ortiz
Base clock is just how intel cheat on TDP marketing. They'll boost to similar frequency under load.
Cooper Brown
>If one ryzen gets 5 more fps than the other, then they are identical >But if one shintel has 5 more fps than one ryzen, ayymd is finished and bankrupt If the other user already has 1800x, he shouldn't get a 2700x with the new zens already round the corner. But if he wants to buy a new cpu altogether, it depends. 2700x has a better cooler. Also, if he doesn't know why he'd want a 1800x or a 2700x, he should just get a 2600 and call it a day.
Jaxson Barnes
2400G would probably be usable on low, though I wouldn't expect stable 60 in the more demanding titles, especially those that don't use vulkan.
Angel Kelly
user with the original question here. I currently have severe bottleneck on my 1080Ti (just got it yesterday). I am using a 4670k and it is maxed out at 1440p. Already have a Noctua cooler so the stock cooler doesn't matter for me.
John Hughes
>bought an ASUS 1060 Dual OC >set it up and get ready to test performance >start testing >all is good, zero noise >fans start spinning up >JET_ENGINES.mp3 >go to the store to get it replaced >replacement is just as loud Jeesus christ, Anons, why didn't you tell me that cheap 1060's were so fucking loud? Why the fuck did I fall for the shilling in those reviews? Are those people half-deaf?
So RX 580? Also would it be better to get a non-G model and put the money towards the gpu?
Dylan Sanchez
set a fan curve, probably they run at full speed by default.
Leo Johnson
>cheap cards have cheap heatsinks with cheap fans QUICK, CALL THE PRESS user!
Sebastian Green
if buying a GPU, sure, why not?
Lincoln Rivera
For gaming you're just doing a sidegrade getting the ryzen. At 1440p the it's your GPU that's limiting 1080ti or not. Turn down AA-settings and goywork you dont need them at 1440p.
Lucas Rodriguez
35% are already too loud for my taste. I'm gonna return it. I expected the reviews to be at least half honest about the noise levels. I should've known better. My 1050 ti gaming X was absoultely silent even when I played vidya for hours. This card gets too loud after 10 fucking minutes, and I'm a meter away from it, for fucks sake.
Daniel Russell
Shit Im considering to replace my 3 GB version with this. WTF this card is the single best selling card in my country. Guess I'll just bit it and get the strix version whose price is almost 1070 tier.
Robert James
the CPU is maxed at 100% on all cores at some games. it stutters like crazy when it hits 100+ frames.
Jackson Hughes
An RX 570 from where I am at costs ~$264. What I am offering is this: you send me $370 and I'll purchase it for you. Then I will send it via USPS. If you want it door-to-door you'll have to gibs extra. Depending on your cunt's postal service, USPS may or may not be the best idea (USPS just transfers your shit to your local PO and they do the rest)
Logan Lee
lol look at this pussy, try running vega 56 with 100% fans. I can hear that card one floor up lmao.
Robert Long
Check your local prices. Depending on where you are, you can just get a 2600/2600x and then sell it to upgrade to 7nm soon. However, you can still use them for a few years instead of directly upgrading. Also, personalizing the game settings instead of pushing everything to ultra can work wonders. Even if you have the top-tier hardware, it never hurts to tweak a few things here and some. In some cases, tweaking settings gives better picture quality and better stability than default settings. Thought I'd mention it just in case. Anyhow, even if you choose a 1st gen ryzen, the improvement will be noticeable.
Parker Campbell
>he didn't buy Sapphire you asked for this user.
Hudson Lewis
Don't do it. Get a card with better fans, more heatpipes, and a good heatsink.
Christopher Turner
Then more cores could be worth it. Also curious which game you play that maxed all 4 cores? Maybe try remove some bloat.
Thomas Myers
There was no sapphire card at launch
Camden Russell
New question: should I just get a ryzen 3 to save money? I can upgrade my cpu in the somewhat near future, but I'm not spending money on something like a another gpu. Btw here is my build. It's my first and the budget is about $550. I'm also willing to buy used parts. I have the storage taken care of.
and sure, I don't have any problems with reducing settings but the GPU isn't even maxed and I want to justify the money I spent on it.
Dying Light, Rise of Tomb Raider, and I think Quake Champions is bottlenecked, it stutters at higher frames, I use Goy-Sync @ 165Hz so I am sure the stutter is from the higher frames. My older GTX 970 didn't stutter since it rarely maxed the CPU.
Is a ryzen 5 2600 a solid purchase or will the 3XXX series bring better performance/watt? Will a 2600 be obsolete in 5+ Years? There are still 5 year old 4c/8t Intel chips that, while lacking, still perform reasonably well. Can I expect this from a 2600 as well? Will a 3600 be a better buy in 6 months time?
