>when you want to solve one problem and create bazillions of new problems in the process (log management, monitoring, storage, security, tracing, etc...)
Who let this happen?
When you want to solve one problem and create bazillions of new problems in the process (log management, monitoring...
Mason Russell
Jaxon Evans
How would you resolve the "Works on my machine" meme otherwise OP ?
Don't want to insult you, you are probably a very good person at heart, but you sound like a fucking brainlet who never put a real huge application in production.
Docker is to deployment what Git is to versioning.
It is pretty solid imho.
Of course, it takes some time to get your full stack running, but with it's universal adoption it's pretty easy to find some good documentation on it.
Michael Morris
INB4 Le Docker shill triggered xDDD
t. samefag
Ryan Wood
>How would you resolve the "Works on my machine" meme otherwise OP ?
Use a managed language?
Jason Sullivan
You mean like Java ?
Jose Gray
> How would you resolve the "Works on my machine" meme otherwise OP ?
By not writing shit code.
> Docker is to deployment what Git is to versioning.
Pretty bold, considering Docker Compose can only roll out Docker containers and not, for example, somethnig KVM- or VMWare-based.
John Adams
I put fucking parts of the fucking Airbus Ressource Management System into production. You will never put something as big in production EVER in your WHOLE life.
It's SAP tho'.
Also I confess I'm a brainlet but the size of my brain doesn't matter; you solve the "Works on my machine" meme with competent developers, conditional compilation and configuration script. Seriously.
The problem solved by docker is the following: "short time to market X lack of competent developer"s not the "Works on my machine" problem. Anyway, Docker require: virtualization solutions and configuration script and a lot of other shit, the scripts are just shorter and in an unified format.
Aiden Wright
>Current year; not using Qubes.
It's like you want fucking glow in the dark CIA niggers all up in your shit.
Josiah Brooks
If you want to use VM stop being a shitlord and use them. Docker containers are actually industry standard and it's great for me.
Docker was created to stop using VMs because containers are smaller and have better security since they can only host your app (alpine images) and not whole os. Imagine starting a whole bunch of VMs for your pipeline after a push to repository and then waiting few minutes. Containers will start in few seconds and you're done. Also they're stateless so you don't need to clean up.
Andrew Perry
I don't understand the point of docker.
Aaron Murphy
> Docker containers are actually industry standard
That means you've been on that side of the industry, that's all.
Jose Wilson
Yeah, on the cloud side
Kevin Price
To make devs and sys admins even lazier
Wyatt Parker
I work a lot with vert.x and postgresql. I do that shit on my main machine and when I'm finished, I set up a server and move that shit over there. How would docker help me now?
Elijah Jones
It allows you to create container environments where your application runs so you can easily deploy a working environment that is identical for all customers. Basically it mitigates the "works on my machine" thing, where some customer have .NET 4.5 while others are on 4.7 which might cause problems. Or a customer has XYZ configured globally on their server for another vendor, and with XYZ enabled your application gets fucked in the ass due to unforeseen issues.
Makes it easier to develop since what you see is what you get, both on the local developer machines and the target customer's server.
Unless you're a blazing faggot like most people in this thread who think they can code in Cobol and hate web development because it is the new norm and love to make shitty installer applications to install their infrastructure to the customer's server that always are bound to fail 70% of the time.
Liam Wood
t. CS college freshman major
In the real world, you will not be working in some super sanitized academic environment where everything "just werks." There are environmental considerations that cannot be solved by simply writing "better code." Even the smallest projects can have numerous moving parts; if one of those moving parts is 2 versions behind in your production environment, it could fuck everything. Docker ensures that your environment travels with your code so that you don't have to spend weeks figuring out why feature X is suddenly broken.
Zachary Bailey
Sysadmins.
They always need to create new, very long term problems in order to not become redundant.
Cameron Foster
Now let's just hope x86 never dies, or else all these containers will be worthless.
Joseph Jones
We've reached a point were it's unimaginable that software would just run on a machine. Like that's just so outrageously impossible that "ship it in a vm" is a solution.
Luke Carter
Jails were first introduced in FreeBSD version 4 on 14 Mar 2000.
Nolan Hernandez
Or you could just run a VM like normal people do.
Daniel King
>VM
Waste of resources
Jack Phillips
>containers are smaller and have better security since they can only host your app
How about escaping the container? How about the fact that even if you think you're performing an operation without root privileges, you actually end up communicating with dockerd which does have root privileges? Note: I don't know a shit about it, these are the points that somebody more knowledgeable than me brought up when asked about docker.
Elijah Ross
How about NixOS? Doesn't its reproducible configuration solve the "works on my machine" problem? I know it's still immature.
Gavin Anderson
An application's environment encompasses more than its operating system.
Connor Young
And boot up an entire guest OS for each application? No thanks.
Xavier Gomez
Yes, it does. Your point? I suppose you don't realize that NixOS configuration includes packages and I think that's the kind of environment you're talking about.
Wyatt Ortiz
You boot it up and let it run until the end of days.