Spending hundreds of hours learning vim

>spending hundreds of hours learning vim

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Correct. For normal people it should take an hour at most.

>tfw use vim mostly in insert mode

been using vim for a year at work as my only text editor and still haven't got around to learning all the useful features

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It takes literally 15 minutes to finish `vimtutor` and you'll have already learned enough to work better than your text editor.
Emacs similarly has C-h t.

then join vimusers and blog about your benis into vagine conversion.

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>wastes a lifetime without knowing vi

Countless hours of lost productivity.

>needing hundreds of hours to learn a couple key combinations

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>Brainlet thinks that because there are a million features he has to learn every single one right now.

Vim takes a few minutes to learn and in the beginning all you need is save, highlight, delete, and find really.

Its like anything in regards to computer, you learn as you require, you gain more power as you need it.

I'm sorry you're too much of a retard do exactly what you want.

How true is this?

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>moving hand to arrow keys vs not moving your hand at all between typing
think about it for a second. if you're trying to learn vim unbind arrow keys completely, in both insert mode and normal mode. it's bad practice to use them and you're actually crippling yourself by using them in vim.

>in ... insert mode
Wouldn't that just lead to me typing in hjkl? Or just force me to go back to normal mode to move?

yeah that’s what I hate when using jhkl to move, once I’m in insert mode I forget about it and instead of moving i’m typing shit

:^)

Users who really "learn" Vim spend literally thousands and thousands of hours because there are in fact years long of vast knowledge hidden in that single program... of course anybody can learn the basics in a couple of days

OP should spend hundreds of ours learning how to troll instead

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I actually regret all the hours I spent learning and optimizing vim. Those could have been spent on actually programming.
>learned vim
>learned emacs
>now on vscode

I bet you were too dumb to figure out when to use . and use jkl; to get around everywhere

I use vim with arrows and am gainfully employed.

Fite me

>> tfw you should have spent that time and effort improving your coding skills rather than navigating a text editor.
>> tfw when neither Jeff Dean nor any other notable programmer uses VIM.
>> tfw never getting laid.

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Yeah, and wouldn't you need to press esc to get out of insert mode which completely defeats the purpose of not moving your hand anyway?

Larry Wall, Bill Joy, Paul Graham, Gary Bernhardt all use Vim.

>he doesn't use vim shortcut on his browser.
LMAO

(You)
Spending weeks learning what body part your pants go on.

press insert key. insert mode. press insert again. replace mode.

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Use ctrl+[ to exit like any sane person.

I've swapped esc and caps. I use esc more frequently anyways even outside vim and now i dont have to move my hand to escape.

I use vim with mouse.

>vim
no thanks, I'll just use vs code ;)

>using a text editor that starts practically instantly and uses less than 150 mb of ram
plebs

Sometimes I have watched streams of very successful and wealthy programmers where they suddenly discover their lifelong text editor aka Vim/Emacs does something new they had no idea was possible and it makes their work twice faster and easier... this shows 2 important points:

1) Some of these people are the top of the programming iceberg but ironically they never learned to program and they have bruteforced their way up there somehow

2) The origin of computing now and foerever is text edition, that is the reason why a professional text editor has implicit decades of deep learning within it

OP and the other Vim nayers faggots only want to bruteforce their way to success like the code monkeys they are.

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>nano -w /etc/fstab

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Depends what keyboard layout you use.

kek

i learned it before birth

Vim was written for a different keyboard layout, which had the escape key in a much more accessible position. Swapping caps lock and esc solves the problem (who uses caps lock anyway)?

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how dumb you must be to struggle to remember a few shortcuts?

> Much faster
Eh, maybe about 20% faster due to the hand movement to the arrow keys you don't have to make. But once you learn all the other movement commands, you can move 60-80% faster, depending on how much you know. Other ones you should learn to go from 20% faster to 50% faster are:
w,b,e,f,t,/ as well as quantifiers.

There's a plugin called Vim Hard-Mode that disables the hjkl keys and forces you to learn other movement commands. A week using that and then you will understand how much faster it is.

only if you're using qwerty. it really doesn't make sense to obsess over the efficiency of keystrokes and not use dvorak at least. i use the arrow keys and dvorak, it's faster than the hjkl and qwerty. emacs kills your little finger by making you use ctrl for everything and vim has you spamming the esc key. nano is obnoxious in general but not as bad as the other two. i like editors that run in the terminal more than a separate window but they all suck, and mg sucks a little less than the others. i use vim, but i don't recommend it.

just make a pedal

I've dabbled with Linux when I was 13 but I'm just now coming back to it as an adult, redpill me on Vim vs just using a normal text editor

Lightweight, customizable, entirely gratis and open source. It has a lot of stuff that people label as unique features of certain editor exclusive features that come standard. Plugin support is helpful but, like I said, a lot of shit just comes standard.

your curve for productivity in nano or notepad tapers off pretty quick. With Vim you have a SLIGHT learning curve to get to the same editing speed as you would in one of those but you can also learn a whole language of commands and increase your editing speed far beyond one what one of those are normally capable of.

depends on how you use your system
if you often use the command line, or your window manager heavily relies on keyboard shortcuts, go ahead and fire up vimtutor
otherwise don't bother tb.h