Both OSs are remnants of the fucking eighties i mean unix, really? the fuck man? so their idea of fixing problems and making better code, was not to scrape and rewrite clean, fast, well made to modern standards, instead, they just pile up more shitcode ontop of the ancient shitcode that already exists
On top of that, microsoft devs seem to follow the "code's good enough, if it ain't broke don't fix it, if it works fucking leave it alone, who cares if it's bloated, complex and written by a retarded monkey on cocaine?" Same thing goes for linux devs except it's work, at least microshit can make it work because they're paid to do it, but linux devs might as well be hobbyists and for the life of them can't make something working.
All this is because of one thing: "backwards compatibility", this is an excuse used by boomers who don't like change (and often carve UNIX PHILOSOPHY) on their foreheads or backs) or extremely lazy idiots on github who'll fill your issues tab with a million angry posts saying "THIS SHIT BROKE MY WORKFLOW, DELET THIS"
OS devving is like a house, if your structure is made out of wood (wood in our case is ancient code) then no matter how much concrete and bricks you build up on it, it'll still be shit and weak.
>i mean unix, really? the fuck man? You should mean Linux. Unix is dead. Linux is the new modern standard.
Feel free to abstain from this world that runs most of its internet and just everything else on Linux if it's not good enough.
Henry Collins
>it's old so it's bad
Good luck getting modern """developers""" to write an OS, they would probably try to write the kernel in Javascript.
Oliver Hall
>i mean unix, really? the fuck man? I stopped reading here.
Benjamin Clark
Any respectable computer science program teaches compiler and OS design.
Jaxson Turner
Nice blog
Levi Rogers
>not tensorflow to make it "deep-learning powered"
Carson Scott
Good blog
Kevin Perry
macOS doesn't have this problem.
James Myers
Yes it does, if only you've read what i wrote.
I'm not shitting on it because it's old, i'm shitting on it because the devs keep piling more and more garbage on already ancient code hoping it would work better see: windows 10, xorg, etc.
Samuel Jenkins
>wood houses are shit and weak yes, that's why my state is full of century old wooden houses that have survived yearly floods and hurricanes
Kayden Jones
you say about pilling on more shitcode but both linux and windows have been improving performance over the last few years, win 10 runs better on some hardware than even 7 (before they update it with bloat/spyware) linux is universally able to run on much lower end hardware chromeOS, made from linux, runs on arm laptops with some of the best battery life in the game. if you want a dev to remake the wheel, ElementaryOS has a new framework or whatever shit to make software on their OS. if you think systemD is bloat (i use it rn but its not SUPER) then you can use a distro without it. the linux kernel is tiny and you can use whatever you want on top for your OS. if your house structure is made from wood, reinforcing it with cement or steel/brick whatever will make it stronger (wood houses can be really good anyway) something something, fuck off
here's another example too, linux still uses scsi although scsi isn't in most modern machines, this is what i mean by garbage on top of garbage
>win 10 runs better on some hardware than even 7 (before they update it with bloat/spyware) This is an outright lie, i have tested both systems of two machines, not only win10 has worse boot times than 7, but it also hangs more frequently and takes up an abysmal space on disk even compared to 7.
Brayden Perry
>here's another example too, linux still uses scsi although scsi isn't in most modern machines, this is what i mean by garbage on top of garbage Wrong. Linux doesn't use SCSI. It supports SCSI.
Jonathan Garcia
>linux still uses scsi although scsi isn't in most modern machines, this is what i mean by garbage on top of garbage
How is that garbage? It's working code. At worst it doesn't get used, oh no, 2kb wasted. And it's there in case you need to do data recovery with some old tech, not seeing a big downside to that.
If your complaint is about devs adding shit code on top of old stuff, here's the issue. Those same devs would be making the NEW code you want! Now you get the SAME shit code but now with untested shit design and no working core.
Look at UEFI to see what happens when modern devs work at low level, it's overengineered garbage.
Jonathan Thomas
depends on which version of windows 10, pre creators update (the first one) windows 10 could run on weaker hardware and edge ran better than IE or firefox on said hardware. my old laptop (i5 2nd gen and some geforce thing) ran better with win10 than win7, no SSD or creators update performance went to shit after that creators update, same story with my sisters laptop (i5 750m) in VMs windows 10 can handle less ram (more efficient use of it at lower amounts) than windows 7, although win 8 beat both. again, pre creators update (sister does digital artwork on it and the creators update broke her software. *insert palpatine here*)
Carter Perez
The comparison really falls apart if you stray from the coast where wood may as well be paper mache. We also have teak sculptures from the 5th century BC. Really "wood" is a shit term, since there is very little consistency between woods.
Blake Cox
pic
See? you're the exact mindset i talked about in the OP, "it's good enough", "whatever" you waste 2kb by 2kb and you end up with 17gb disk space in your OS (i'm looking at you win7)
i love how you talk about modern devs as if you were the second coming of K&R
That's interesting that wooden construction doesn't do well in coastal areas near you, the state I was talking about (Queensland) is both coastal and subtropical.
Bentley Ward
>Any respectable computer science program There aren't many.
Carson Moore
>can't refute this >better deflect
Samuel Long
> century old wooden houses Yea, who doesn't have thousands of these...?
I recall we also had a least 34 houses built between the 12. and 14. centuries, most partly or fully wooden.
Aaron Evans
Hurd is never going to be released
Adam Bell
imo the github breaking thing is one of the downsides of rolling releases, you have to keep the computer rolling otherwise software will likely break and if the dev adds a feature or something that you dont like its gonna be harder to download a version without whatever it is you dont like. i use manjaro on my main laptop (for now) and xubuntu core on my other machines, that way if i need something i can find the version compatable with 18.04 and not have to worry as much about compatibility (something might still break but eh) if i wanted to i could install 12.04 and probably find versions of the software that i can use. also windows takes up a shit ton of HDD space from temp files and backups but i currently on this machine (xubuntu core) im only using 15gb with the majority of the software i want on the machine and my 2.5gb music collection (not very impressive i know)
That's because if you want your product to extend beyond a toy for some couple enthusiasts, you pay a very large amount of attention to compatibility. The real world doesn't care about how elegant and minimalistic your operating system is, they want their computer to do whatever they tell it to and that's it.
Alexander Bennett
I guess there is some irony to say os's are shit because their old while posting an old meme
Juan Thompson
There's a difference between being a minimalismfag and wanting boomers to get their sticks off their asses and actually make fast, well optimized and secure software
Read the thread dumbfuck , i bashed the fuck out of unix which apple was based on, and i did mention apple's crappyness
Liam Davis
Based. Genuinely fresh OS when? With no sacrifices made for legacy hard/software, or compensating for limited storage/ram.
Jonathan Diaz
>let's edit a microshaft meme and put an apple logo instead
Jayden Roberts
Most buildings are made of wood you dumb fuck.
Gabriel Smith
This post, and the pic, rustles my jimmies
Matthew Wilson
Unix philosophy is superior.
Jayden Brown
>Javascript js.OS already exists. But yes, RedoxOS and Haiku seem like promising replacements for old OSs.
Michael Brooks
Read up on OS history before you write something as stupid as this, If you did you would know the difference between Linux and Unix, fucking blogposter.
Jason Morgan
It's evolution. We stand on the shoulders of giants as opposed to trying to reinvent the wheel. Sure, Win/Linux suck, but they work. It's easier to build on top of something that already works.
