Ok, so I'm about half way done with my InfoSys degree, and I'm wanting to make the change from windows. Now, I'm not necessarily wanting to make this change for moral reasons, though at the very least I consider them a bonus, but I'll undoubtably have to use linux at some point as part of my job, especially if I do any sysadmin shit. So, why not mix work and play?
Anyway, I'll probably make the switch once i upgrade my compute, and I know you get this thread a million fucking times a day, but uh... which distro? I just need something that works, has a decent layout (though I'll probably be a fag and rice it anyway).
Also, on a side note, anyone else in my degree program? is there anything coding/tech wise you recommend doing before I graduate? They still havn't made me use C yet, which I get the feeling is a bit of a problem. All my coding has been in either java or c#. Should I just get certs in that? or be a big boy and learn c and c++?
Ubuntu, Fedora and Debian are good choices. Xfce is a solid yet unobtrusive DE.
Chase Rodriguez
Thanks, I didn't want to say Ubuntu because i was worried the FSF autists would come reeeing out of the woodwork.
Asher Allen
Ubuntu has the most noob support (forums, questions answered, etc.) Debian is the non-noob Ubuntu.
For maximum contrast with Windows, you might try something like Manjaro or Antergos, which are basically Arch minus the mindbending install process.
Ayden Stewart
what certs can u get in java?
Grayson Richardson
They will come either way
Justin Jenkins
>Manjaro or Antergos memes >basically Arch minus the mindbending install process for people who want to use a meme distro but without the requisite knowledge
Thomas Watson
Fedora or CentOS if you're looking to gain practical work experience. CentOS may be better because it basically mirrors Red Hat Enterprise Linux. Same package manager, so a lot of programs available for both.
Jason Reyes
If you want something that just werks, use Ubuntu LTS. Vanilla. It's pretty well tested and handles all sorts of weird hardware setups by default, it actually feels like they did QA on it.
Even just going to something like kubuntu already makes things feel a bit shakier. Not a big deal if you know what you're doing, but it can be a pain at first. You can always change distro or DE later when you're ready.
Kevin Phillips
I don't know. I'm a bad nerd, pretty much my first intoduction to this shit has been through my degree program. am I fucked?
Hunter Price
Linux desktop is a meme, don't listen to the autists. Linux's sole strength is its compartmentalization, you can run a kernel + a single service and it'll be extremely stable and easy to troubleshoot as a single role server.
All the linux DEs on the other hand are glitchy unusable dumpster fires that are decades behind Windows and Macos. There's a good reason why the vast overwhelming majority of the corporate world runs Windows desktops with mix of Windows and Linux servers.
If you're going to learn linux, learn its practical uses, not useless ricer shit.
t. found linux too difficult and went crying back to windows
Adrian Garcia
Check the wiki entry on suggested beginner distros and just start testing them out in vms or livecds. Its hard to suggest the best distro because some may work better or worse on your hardware. Generally though, most people have the best results starting with something like an ubuntu variant, debian, or fedora.
Dylan Brown
I like Ubuntu, because it 'just werks'. Excellent driver support. Great user experience overall.
Or, consider CentOS, which is basically RHEL without the service contract. RHEL/CentOS are common the corporate world (in my experience)
Jayden Gray
>the vast overwhelming majority of the corporate world runs Windows desktops with mix of Windows and Linux servers. Well yeah. That's why OP wants to pick up some linux knowledge. He's familiar with windows but wants to learn linux so when he graduates and lands a job he's not incompetent.
Nathan Adams
>especially if I do any sysadmin shit. then dive right in to arch. or install a noob distro first to only see what linux feels like, then dive into arch
David Turner
Learning linux desktop is useless because nobody uses it in the real world outside of google, who had to form an entire department dedicated to creating a distro to fit their needs.
Adam Powell
CentOS/RedHat for work experience. AND get used to using the terminal since you'll be remoting into headless boxes. Anything else is desktop '''''hobbiest''''' bullshit, which is most of Jow Forums.
Nolan Morales
Minimalism is not a meme if you're coming from Windows for the first time.
Connor Wood
>There's a good reason why the vast overwhelming majority of the corporate world runs Windows desktops with mix of Windows and Linux servers. Because like most normies, they find the concept of free software completely baffling?
Parker Rivera
...We forget this, but when they hear about "a free operating system," their first question is: What's the guy's angle? They literally cannot imagine how it works or why.
Aaron Morris
I'm currently doing an associates program in computer information systems I'm starting my 2nd(last) year next week and I haven't learned anything new besides little tidbits and fun facts
Connor Foster
Linux as a desktop is perfectly fine. Using Linux depends entirely on your use case. Professionally I can't recommend using Linux (unless of course your job involves Linux) because there are many Windows-only tools that have no equivalent on Linux, or lesser equivalents. LibreOffice doesn't hold a candle to MSOffice, for instance.
But for personal use, Linux (and by Linux, I mean a non-meme distro like Ubuntu or Fedora/CentOS) might be better than Windows. >more stable >runs faster because lighter >lots of customization >no virus For normies who just use their computer for Facebook, Amazon, and online banking there's really no disadvantage to using Linux
Jacob Foster
>hey son, you got some free time this weekend? >we bought this new printer and we cant figure out how to get it to work, we put the disk in but it just pops up a window with a bunch of files Loonix desktop. Never again.
Jace Anderson
Most distros give you a choice of desktop environments. You should take a look at GNOME for vaguely tablet like Macbookery, KDE for comfy Windows-like GUI, XFCE for functional minimalism. They all work well out of the box.
Cinnamon and MATE: can't comment one way or the other. Openbox/i3: window managers as opposed to desktop environments.
Gabriel Evans
>They literally cannot imagine how it works or why. Oh, yes they can. They've all been to college. They've all worked on Linux to some degree. What they can't work out is why anyone would base their line-of-business on an OS that is basically some pimply geek's hobby. The saving in monetary terms is negligable as opposed to the liability exposure. There's nobody to assume the financial risk if Linux puts somebody out of business. All this talk of "many eyes" only works when the "eyes" are qualified and experienced and are actually looking. Having to effectivey proof-read the source code of your OS and its applcations from the view-point of expertise in the fiels is going to be expensive. It won't be portable, either. No customer is going to release his findings if they cost too much.
Owen Reyes
Aside from a degree and certificates, are there any way to prove one's linux competency? It's not like a designer/programmer that has portfolios.
James Cooper
Yes, they'll just ask you questions about bash commands and the file system in the interview.
Nicholas Peterson
We do get this thread a million times a day, fuck of.
Jaxson Morris
Yea, but how do I apply in the first place if I don't have certs? Need to pass through those HR people; I got my current frontend job because I have a couple example sites, but I'm not sure what to show off for a linux position.
Jaxon Walker
Microsoft isn't going to protect you from any financial risk, good luck suing them. Any sane vendor will disclaim liability for defects in their software. For people who want CYA protection, that's what RedHat makes the big bucks from. No one is running their mission critical stuff on Gentoo.
I'm not sure what century and/or industry you're talking about, but practically all the mission critical computing stuff I've seen is on Linux of some kind. Window servers are for shit like Outlook or Sharepoint or file shares for the admin staff.
Zachary Jackson
>Linux fags are so used to not having any support that the answer when something fails is to sue Jesus christ
Elijah Allen
you fell for a scam college lmfao owned retard
Jaxon Martinez
if my college gave me a full ride for free, who got scammed?
I got a InfoSystems bachelors degree, but haven't been able to find a nice entry level job. And by nice, I mean one where I don't need to drive around Houston all day long.
i'm still a medium tier noob. i've tried fedora, cent, ubuntu and manjaro. ubuntu is by far the easiest to use,and more importantly, most reliable which makes learning the important stuff about it easier. if you go another way, that's fine but for the love of god don't use fedora, breaks every 3 days. if you need rpm use cent instead.
xfce (xubuntu) is m favorite desktop, i've used unity, kde, gnome, lxde and xfce. so i havent used cinnamon or mate. but xfce is so customizable. and if the software you want isn't there, it's easy to add it. kde is also good but it's more intensive on the cpu.
also ubuntu has the best support and best packages (tested speedily and maintained)
Elijah Perry
what wm is that?
Lucas Wood
Am I the only one giggling about why this image exists? I mean linux is used mostly on servers but who would actually sit behind his computer thinking "I should make a meme that tells people not to use linux on desktops".
It really looks like something you would only take the time for when you just failed installing gentoo and need some kind of outlet to feel less shit about it
Brandon Morgan
looks like a stock install of Qubes OS my dude so its probably xfce
Gavin Turner
Installing gentoo is like something you would only take the time for when you failed at figuring out how to activate windows and need some kind of outlet to feel less shit about it Prove me wrong, protip: you can't.
As examples you could do some bash scripts that would stand up shit from scratch...a webserver, a database...shit like that. Will prove you know Linux plus bash. Do it on CentOS/RedHat though, that's what most enterprises use.
Caleb Ortiz
but activating windows is super easy and the site that you downloaded the iso from probably has instructions no person who could install gentoo would fail at activating windows
Nolan Collins
>1366x768 meme'd hard
Austin Jenkins
No no no hell no I do not tolerate low quality bait as a reply to my post.
It's funny to see how far the "I'm mad about linux cus I couldn't use it" movement goes. For the rest I couldn't care less about what you use or do not use
Nolan Evans
>There's nobody to assume the financial risk if Linux puts somebody out of business
Explain how Microsoft "support" removes or even mitigates any financial risk for your business. They don't owe you shit.
Again if you just want CYA "support" then that's why RedHat makes money, but you're still ultimately responsible for making your own shit work.
Oliver Morgan
what was your GPA?
Cameron Cruz
Imagine being this salty over linux. Dont bust a nut faggot.
