>Create a parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >Learn how to build a PC Search youtube for a guide for your socket
Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses; eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose and graphics card pairing. >Use HWinfo, SIV, etc. not Speccy >For Win7 in Ryzen, refer to pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1
CPU >i3 8100 - Bare minimum gaming >R3 2200G/R5 2400G - If you aren't buying a GPU >i5 8400 - Best value for gaming >R5 2600/x - Good for multithreaded work >i7 8700k/R7 2700x - Best high-end gaming/mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform OR wait for intel 9th gen (est. release November) >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM >8GB - Enough for most gaming use >16GB - Standard for heavy use >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal
Graphics cards >wait for RTX 2000 if you are rich >Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others which have small heatsinks and low quality fans 1080p >RX 570/580 /w Freesync or 1060 6GB are standard 1080p 60fps+ options >1050Ti or RX560 for lower settings, or older games >GTX 1070 if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor 1440p >Avoid Vega since Nvidia has sales now >1070Ti/1080 /w a 75+ hz monitor >GTX 1080Ti if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor 4K >1080Ti medium/high settings >2080Ti
Storage >Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard
Display >Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models. >Always consider FreeSync with AMD cards >___sync is important for slower response time monitors (IPS) >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
More rentry.co/pcbg-more (Read with caution, it's a site made by an AMD shill)
Should I wait to see what 9th gen intel looks like before settling on a Ryzen?
Alexander Cook
What do you plan to use it for? How long you willing to wait?
Jayden Wilson
gaymen, willing to wait until the end of the year.
David Carter
>ryzen gaymen Ehhh. Anyway if it's gaymen then you should check out the 9th gen.
Noah Russell
How good is MSI's tech support? Everything that I've read claims that it's shit. Should I put my trust into some assblasted costomers' reviews? It's not like anyone has ever lied on the internet?
My budget is 1600 USD. How good of a gaming setup can i put together for that amount?
Brandon Diaz
Here is the deal guys. I want to build a PC as cheap as possible for mainly emulating the ps3 ps2 and the Wii u I don't mind gaming at 720p either as long as it's 60 fps. I endured long enough for 6+ years playing games on 720p and lower settings. I completed dark souls 3 playing at 480p on my toaster of a laptop so 720p is a huge step up. I never had a ps3 or a Wii I look forward to play persona 5 and botw on my new rig for as cheap as possible. I also expect it to last me longer than my HP laptop RIP. Keep in mind I don't do anything else on my PC other playing gayms and watching anime while downloading torrents. Also I already have a 1080p 60hz monitor. Thank you guys for helping a poorfag like me.
here's what i do: call their tech support, complain about a "recent purchase" and ask them to help you troubleshoot the problem and spend about 20 minutes on the phone seeing how helpful they are. sometimes have their suggestions "work" and sometimes have their suggestions "not work"
remember, it's all pretend, but try to play it serious because you might be spending $500+ with this company after all
then after that amount of time, pretend you have explosive diarrhea and "put them on hold"
don't actually put them on hold, but put a 5 minute video of fart noises on youtube next to your phone so they can hear it.
after that, come back, pretend nothing happened, and ask them about another product they would suggest in addition to the one you're already buying. for instance, if you're buying a gpu, ask them about upgrading your PSU (like evga). If you're buying a motherboard, ask them about upgrading your GPU, and so on and so forth. Eventually, ask them about their return policy in case something goes wrong. Spend about 10 minutes on this, thank them for their time, and hang up.
Any company still on the line with you at this point has good enough customer support that you should be fine.
Jackson Sullivan
Is the cooler on the Sapphire 11265-05-20G or XFX RX-580P8DFD6 better? Since it's an AMD card I'm concerned about temps.
>killed Intel >struck by NVIDIA but survived Accurate
Dominic Bell
>they have the right to record phone conversations >you become a living meme to all the people working there >all that just to test how much shit they are willing to put up with what the fuck, user?
intel 9 gen is going to be 14nm+++++++ while amd ZEN2 (next year) is going to be 7nm already
Nolan Green
thats it, is the era of iGPUs thanks based AMD, thanks for the best iGPUs (VEGA8 and VEGA11)
Josiah Hall
kek actually very accurate
William Cruz
I don't understand what you just said.
Gabriel Bailey
What you should install linux on my laptop?
my specifications are
Operating system: Windows 10 home single language
Processor: ADM E1-2100 APU with Radeon (TM) HD Graphics 1.00 GHz
RAM memory: 2.00 GB (1.47 GB usable)
System type: 64-bit operating system, x64 processor
Windows (C :) 384 GB available from 439 GB
Recovery (D :) 2.69 GB available from 24.0 GB
Luis Barnes
Who cares, intel's performance will still be superior while gaymd will focus on reducing the power consumption by 10watts which no one gives a shit about.
My budget is 800€ monitor included. I have some games i couldnt even run smoothly like beam.ng drive on my 9 years old setup and 10 years old screen. Can i build something reasonable or settle for laptop?
>tfw my go to store recently got flooded with a trillion of (((refurbished))) rx570s, rx580s, 1060s, 1070s and 1080s each for a price comparable to their respective original ones One day we'll have our almost affordable gpus back brehs
Elijah Price
>AMD has "Raise The Game" promotion >retailers INSTANTLY raised priced to 300-350€ on rx570/580 >y-you're getting games with a value of 150€ go- err i mean valued customer™ pls buy our shit
everything's ok expect for the shitty non-ips monitor and a mediocre psu. unless you're on a tight budget i'd strongly suggest spending an extra $80 on a monitor like LG 24MP59G-P (IPS, 75hz) and a gold-rated psu like corsair tx550m or seasonic focus gold.
depends on your usage. if you're mostly gaming then 2700x might be a waste since the extra threads won't give you much performance over r5 2600. you also probably don't need a x470 mobo and for under $500 you can already get a gtx 1080 instead of a 1070ti.
Angel Mitchell
You know you posted no specs? Also, why bother changing the case at all?
Owen Sullivan
>in light of the discounts to make room for the 20XX series? thing is nvidia seems to want to sell pascal alongside the gtx 20xx series so the prices might just stay like they are, at least until gtx/rtx 2060 comes out which should replace gtx 1070.
>everything's ok expect for the shitty non-ips monitor and a mediocre psu I'm gonna be overclocking the monitor to 85hz, and the psu has 620 watts to power the build, which is estimated to use a little under 400 watts, so I think that both the things should be alright. However, I appreciate your feedback and I'll look into the parts you suggested.
Dominic Phillips
1.it's a small factor 790 with the default mobo and sandwell 2nd gen i5 2. small factor and small case
Noah Collins
i'm not saying the psu will explode, it's just you can get a gold-rated one for like $10 more. >I'm gonna be overclocking the monitor to 85hz monitor overclocking can be really unreliable, unless you are sure that this particular monitor is good for overclocking then i wouldn't bother. for example my 75hz tn shits itself if i go over 77hz, of course that varies from model to model but again i wouldn't count on yours hitting 85hz.
Benjamin Brooks
Should I spend 400 on a gpu and 400 on a monitor or 300 on a gpu and 500 on a monitor?
Lucas Ward
it depends on how much gaming you want to do. i have a 50 dollar radeon 7800 and it runs everything fine on a 280 dollar 1080p monitor but i don't play any video games or do anything outside of audio, office work, or general shitposting
pcpartpicker.com says my build will eat 180W. How accurate is this?
Honestly I don't think 180W is for real, but, provided this, will 500w PSU be okay?
And if the PSU is too powerful can it have any negative impact? It seems no and the power won't be utilized but maybe I am mistaken.
Aiden Thompson
I won't do a build for you. But a i5 8400 simply enough for every Wii game and part of the ps3 games also runs nice (like jojo or the game where the kid summons imaginary animals). And yes it's on iGPU. i do recommend 16GB memory because some of the emulator games will like it more like the new Zelda game.
>How accurate is this? cant tell without looking at the parts. 180w sounds fine for budget builds. >And if the PSU is too powerful can it have any negative impact? It seems no and the power won't be utilized but maybe I am mistaken. you're right, it doesn't matter. 450w should be minimum for any pc build in 2018 (unless you're building a plex server or something), since smaller wattage psus don't cost less. so yeah a 500w will do fine
Christian Gutierrez
Bruh the cheapest thing is not serious. State your fucking budget.
Nathaniel Lee
Recent ones has some short of "smart energy technology(tm)" which you guested it, it won't consume as much as it is capable of. Still don't go and buy 1000W psu unless it's an i9(/amd in similar level) with 1-3 RTX280 Most healthy would be 650W. I bought an 520W psu because i only use a i5-8400 + a 1070Ti
Why the fuck would you buy a 500w PSU when your build will use 180W-200W at most.
Matthew Mitchell
What are some good 75 Hz 1440p freesnyc monitors to look at, /pcbg/?
Alexander Jenkins
pcpartpicker.com/list/MJfYRJ As for the video I have same one (though from asus but it's not on pcpartlist). Idon't play games and could use the integrated GPU but heck if I got one why not plug it. Not 180w though, I accidentally excluded the HDD.
Oi same CPU as I plan. How's it bro?
Oliver Nelson
My wives
William Nelson
Great. Barely goes over 60degree even in summer(using aircooler). PS3, 3DS runs smoothly even with iGPU. I Haven't run into any issues yet. Looking back i should have gone full meme and getting i7+1080ti but heck this will do nicely for atleast 3 years (i hope). My old core 2 quad machine is 7 year old and still running great. So i hope the newer ones are also long lasting. I aplied every patch but it didn't effect my performance. Well i don't cut videos or render so maybe it just me.
Brody Sanchez
Are you running PS3 games at native resolutions?
Xavier Anderson
Give it to me straight bruthers. 1080p/144 Hz gaming. I play older titles that can hit 144 FPS with some tweaks. Worth waiting on RTX release just to see what happens to the market or spring for something right now? I have an RX 580 and it was never meant to be a long term card, just a stopgap for the past year that I basically paid for with mining.
Brody Campbell
What is a good wireless adapter? I prefer USB over PCLe
get 2666mhz ram. if you don't play games then don't use that gpu, it's shit and old but capable of using 50w by itself.
anything out of current rtx line-up is an overkill for 1080p144hz. basically anthing above gtx1070/gtx1080 will be, so waiting for rtx doesn't make sense unless you want rtx/gtx 2060, but that should only have about gtx 1070 performance. IMO just keep your rx580.
Samuel Long
>old lady calls in >talks about a hour of her cat was fucked because she was in heat or how the neighbour's daughter is selling her buddy Another one: >Woman screaming at me for not sending out specialist for simple router restart >goes louder once i tell her we do for a fee, because it's user site of problem >hands her phone to her husband who has this last boss voice telling me that either we send specialist (we need to call them this, don't ask why because no one answered it) or he make me fired. - >the whole fucking support systems shutdown >this had like 2 hour duration >old woman (based on of how much she could >tell him how their kids don't visit >when and what organ was cut out of her >what she watched and cooked >she even ranted on politics >it wasn't bad, because manually picking up the next customer is kinda bad for various reason, not being to able se their numbers and other stuff. Also without the system we need to use some obscure database for which i was locked out and without the system you couldn't request a new entry. So i listened to this womam about a hour long. Then gone for another hour as a little pause (we get 10min after every 60min) - >porn addict >we have this online rent stuff and this dude who call in rent like 1000€ worth porn. The weirdest about this was that looking back the settobox log he had watched porn for 72 fucking hours (there was like 5-6 hour pause), but it was still ridicoulos I-it was the kids you see.... >kids can't access service that cost extra money without password and porn even an extra password.
Camden Murphy
bogpill me on SAMA PSU's
Parker Allen
Yes. The 1070ti is on the way. So currently with iGPU it only has enough power for native resolution.
Joseph Sanchez
Should I wait for Zen 2 or just get the 9700?
Brandon Barnes
>anything out of current rtx line-up is an overkill for 1080p144hz. I'm not so sure it even would be since I would like to play BF V. Obviously not with the RTX bullshit turned on. I've been with AMD for quite a long time just disappointed they have nothing to offer here. The RX 580 can't really do what I want it to do right now so I know I need to do something, just trying to time the market right.
Lucas Hall
i'm considering buying a Zen/Zen+ setup to eventually upgrade to Zen 2. Is there any known compelling reason to just wait for Zen 2 for say, better featured mother boards to match the new line?
I'm thinking no since they use the same socket and likely won't have more pci-e lanes like that.
Ugh, I haven’t been able to make up my mind between an 8400 an a 2600x for a gaming pc.
You would think the fact that 8400 is cheaper while also giving better gaming performance would make this an easy decision, yet here we are. Am I being shilled too hard? What do? Will the potential of ryzen translate to something tangible in the foreseeable?
Isaiah Edwards
Get the define r6 instead of buying their fans separately ?
Jaxson Campbell
You can get an 8400 for like $160 on eBay right now.
Josiah Perez
If u want to do video editing or some cpu heavy shit then ryzen. Otherwise intel. Even for emulators intel is better according to any emulator developer.
Juan Morgan
Should I get the ASUS STRIX 1070 Ti or 1080 with a $50 difference? Money is not a problem, I'm just wondering since I'm sure the overclock potential will be pretty much the same. I'm doing video editing, so the CUDA cores might help and the GDDR5X would be slightly more reliable in the future, right?
James Perez
I'm sure this was funny somehow but reading it made my brain hurt
Logan Taylor
what're the good cases these days? i was cleaning my fractal define r4 and dropped it and the front panel broke, so i need to get a new one. was thinking of the fractal define c since i liked my current case a lot, but i was wondering about the alternatives
i want something that 1. no glass 2. easily removable dust filters on every fan location, if possible 3. won't rust
i don't mind if it's ugly but i'd prefer if it isn't gaudy
man i wish i hadn't broken my case
Christopher Sanders
anyone with a b450 tomahawk know how to change the colour of the led at the back?
Jack Martin
>the fact that 8400 is cheaper while also giving better gaming performance only when you're not bottlenecked by your gpu. so in every aaa game with high graphics there is no difference between these cpus. also you should choose 2600 instead 2600x if you care about price/performance, it's also $15 cheaper than i5 8400.
Ian Cook
I currently have a 4690K and a 1080 TI running on an Antec NeoEco 520w PSU Should I upgrade the PSU? I have no issue with the system powering off under load but the PSU doesn't stay quite about it, its the loudest thing in the case
Jackson Green
That's a pretty weak PSU for a 1080ti. Can only guess it's struggling to stay cool if the fan is being noisy. Can't say I've ever owned a power supply I've even noticed inside a case.
>4K Freesync display What are you even running that can handle 4k from AMD?
Tyler Howard
Is stock 2600 still “good enough” with a 1070 ti? I don’t like overclocking and am wary of hidden costs like the need for a better cooler/mobo/ram
Cooper Campbell
Newegg has a 750w EVGA Supernova G1+ for $90 so I might get that. Been meaning to get a new PSU as I was going to need one anyway if I wanted to OC or get an i7
Connor Rogers
just bought today this build rounded up(fuck .99 BS) AMD Ryzen 2600 150£ ASRock B450 M Pro4 78£ Team Vulcan 3000Mhz DDR4 136£ Cheapo Case 25 Cooler Master G750M semi-modular 36£ Used EVGA 1070 GAMING 8GB :266£ total: 735£ shipping included i feel cheated on the RAM but i think i did pretty good
