>Create a parts list pcpartpicker.com/ >Learn how to build a PC Search youtube for a guide for your socket
Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses; eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose and graphics card pairing. >Use HWinfo, SIV, etc. not Speccy >For Win7 in Ryzen, refer to pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1 (embed)
CPU >i3 8100 - Bare minimum gaming >R3 2200G/R5 2400G - If you aren't buying a GPU >i5 8400 - Best value for gaming >R5 2600/x - Good for multithreaded work >i7 8700k/R7 2700x - Best high-end gaming/mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform OR wait for intel 9th gen (est. release November) >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM >8GB - Enough for most gaming use >16GB - Standard for heavy use >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal
Graphics cards >wait for RTX 2000 if you are rich >Avoid cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others which have small heatsinks and low quality fans UNLESS they are much cheaper 1080p >RX 570/580 /w Freesync or 1060 6GB are standard 1080p 60fps+ options >1050Ti or RX560 for lower settings, or older games >GTX 1070 if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor 1440p >Avoid Vega since Nvidia has sales now >1070Ti/1080 /w a 75+ hz monitor >GTX 1080Ti if seeking higher FPS /w a high hz monitor 4K >1080Ti medium/high settings >2080Ti
Storage >Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard
Display >Consider 75hz minimum; 60hz are mostly old models. >Always consider FreeSync with AMD cards >___sync is important for slower response time monitors (IPS) >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
I am missing one standoff driver is it okay to put my motherboard on it?
Bentley Wilson
>Avoid Vega since Nvidia has sales now Lmao this dumb, blatant shill, ignoring that Vega sales have been even better.
Justin Bennett
yeah fuck it dood nothing will happen other than your mobo might short but that is very unlikely
Dylan Cooper
Just fucking buy it user - you don't need benchmarks to know its a good goy card.
Eli Thomas
how do I fix it
Caleb Edwards
your early death from the kidney you sold will at least be raytraced
James Wright
# Is two 3.5" bays a firm requirement? I personally use a Silverstone SG13B-Q and have a 2.5" SSD for boot and a 3.5" HDD for mass storage. I want to say I've heard of guys modifying these cases to fit 2 3.5" but personally not sure what that requires. . . It's a nice case tho, about the size of a shoebox and can fit most full size cards (even 1080ti).
>I can't install 2.5hdd because ssds have some special screw holes
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Aaron Rodriguez
>I can't install 2.5hdd Yes you can. You don't need to screw it in. It'll be a cleaner install, but you can get it to work without that.
John Wood
>not using blu-tack to attach SSDs to your case
Kevin Martin
>not using m.2 ssds
Eli Williams
I'll try it out then user thanks. Do you know if there is a bracket or something online that I can get for it? Have one on the way but comes in a month
Henry Bennett
How much difference does a more expensive motherboard make? As long as it has all the sockets and connections I need, what's the difference between a 100€ and a 200€ motherboard?
Noah Foster
Quality. If your not OC or not using a good cpu you can get a cheap as mobo
Levi Ross
What CPU should I replace my i5 2400 with? I want to switch to AMD.
If your a Ryzen 2700x owner, i advise doing an all core clock of 4ghz, it sits stable at 1.2-1.35v and gets a cinebench score of 1800 , where the XFR of Ryzen 2700x will fluctuate between 3.9-4.1ghz , using higher volts of 1.4 and gets a cinebench score of 1750
its kind of unusual, my only guess is that XFR is using up more processing power than the benefit it provides, even though ON PAPER it shows 4.050ghz - 4.1ghz, it performs 3% worse overall, again at least on cinebench.
I fucked up bad. I built my first PC, and after riding the high, decided to go plug it up and test it. Only to see pic related. No hdmi, vga, nothin. I bought this with a 3 2200G, and yes, I know I'm a neanderthal for buying a $275 mobo and only getting a $99 cpu. It was going to be temporary until ryzen 2 comes out. Now I need to know: if I get a cheap gpu, will i still be able to run the integrated gp on the cpu through it? Or am I fucked and have to bottleneck myself to a low end gpu?
Is there a cheap, no LEDs/RGB bullshit keyboard that allows many key presses at the same time? I don't wanna get any gaymer looking shit, all I want is a simple keyboard that allows at least 5 or so presses at the same time.
Dylan Carter
8400 has shit value over r5 2600 faggot shill
Charles Brown
kek just buy some used $50 7970
Adrian Jenkins
The integrated could is low end and will bottleneck anything
Alexander Clark
How can you lie this blatantly? You did the same thing in the previous thread.
How much of a blatant shill can you possibly be to ignore easily verifiable prices? And even if Vega56 cost $20 more, the good monitors cost $200-$800 less.
I'm wanting to build a PC for gaming on Linux, abandoning the dual boot I currently use as most of the games I play (valve/blizzard titles) run fine on Linux. I'd also like to play other random games in wine with the opportunity to potentially do a GPU passthrough down the line if something comes out that that wont wine. I've been trying to pick out good hardware for this, most information I can find suggests that Intel/Nvidia still gives best performance on Linux for gaming and also works best for GPU passthrough but the OP seems to suggest AMD is better for CPU passthrough. I also tried to pick a motherboard with good IOMMU support on Linux. Currently my only concern is that the hardware I have might be overkill for what I'm wanting even given the potential overheads of Wine, money isn't a concern but obviously I wouldn't want to overspend. Suggestions welcome. uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/jHVBFt
Ignore this idiot: Don't just arbitrarily spend more money on a mobo because you have a "quality" cpu or want to overclock.
For intel overclocking, the chipset is the only thing that matters. Theres not a single asus/asrock/msi/gigabyte z370 board that can't handle overclocking.
The price premium is solely for extra/"better" ports/expansion slots/onboard wifi/onboard sound
Dominic Rodriguez
get ryzen 2700x cpu & you wont need cooler master, alsao its way better what are you doing buying intel in 2018
get 650w power supply, your going to regret not doing it in the future
Xavier Rogers
Not finding anything. Any alternatives? I'm trying to keep it under $75
Thomas Jenkins
I was under the impression that if you went with Nvidia for graphics it was generally best to get Intel CPU.
I will upgrade the power supply thanks for the suggestion. Is 650 standard?
Logan Brooks
Another faggot inturd shill thread
Jack Miller
try a 280x? 270x?
Ethan Edwards
What could go wrong if I bought a used CPU with a warranty?
William Morris
Warranty will likely require proof of purchase if it's bought from some random person.
Brayden Stewart
I just ordered a BenQ PD3200U, how bad did I fuck up? I want a bigass IPS screen, but I looked at some curved ultrawides at a store and wasn't too impressed so I went for a 32" flat 4k monitor instead.
I'm mostly gaming and editing photos, but I'm not too worried about "gaming" stuff like really low response times or high refresh rates or whatever. It would've been nice to have G-sync, but the only 32" 4k G-sync monitor is a really ugly Acer.
Owen Flores
Had the cryto-currency craze and RAM price fixing permanently fucked PC-building forever? I just spent 2 hours building my friend a PC and couldnt for the life of me make something better than some shitty Chinknovo prebuilt. Sure I got him better RAM and Mobo and PSU but I cant tell him with a straight face to get the 2400g with vega 11 instead of G4560+1050 while paying 30$ extra.
Isn’t the point of the x models to not need overclocking? I’m looking at the 2600x and was under the impression that this xfr2 business was a good thing
Nathaniel Nelson
That is terrible advice. What the fuck?
Evan Morgan
FUCK these PINS
>Some sockets don't have indicator if they are + or - >Only way found out was there was a tiny arrow on the back of it hardly noticible.
why is it terrible though? If he was right then I dont feel comfortable having my CPU on 1.4V while performs worse.
Kevin Thompson
still building? told you it was going to be stressful also you're a brainlet
Jose Collins
Only the leds needs to be put in the right way and if you put them wrong then nothing happens so just do them again
Ryder Powell
why connect front panel outside of the case?
Adrian Jones
There is no benefit with going Intel/Nvidia compared to AMD/Nvidia
Isaiah Rivera
That wasn't there a couple hours ago, probably a one day deal or something because no one buys this shit card. Still a $430 1080 is so much better price/performance or even a 1070ti for sub 400 >pulls the sync meme card again Oh yeah that's your only argument to buy a housefire vega
Chase White
Looking to build my first PC. Not looking to build the best of the best, but what would be the biggest difference in picking either a i5-8600k vs i7-7700k?
Joseph Sanders
the 8600k has 2 more cores and the 7700k is a house fire
Connor Gray
Why oh why would you get either of those?
Blake Cox
Seething AMD shill. The 8600k destroys anything AMD at gaming.
Nicholas Moore
>gaming in 2018 cool are you gonna play quicktime events 5 : more cutscenes edition or weeb pantsu quest 92 - this time the lolis fight using lolis edition
Hudson Hall
Beats looking at Cinebench and zipping huge ass files all day.
Ethan Martin
DUDE I NEED MY CUTTING EDGE HARDWARE TO PLAY GAMES IN 4K >cool whats the last game you played that you enjoyed >wait what do you mean you spent 2k on a pc to browse Jow Forums and youtube?
At a higher cost, with no stock cooler and security vulnerabilities. Sounds like a good deal. And 1155 is still a dead platform for 10nm. Whenever that comes out.
Jonathan Cox
>he doesn't recommend muh jewtel so he his amdrone xddd Fuck off you retarded mongrel shill. 7700K is a literal housefire from last generation and the 8600K is simply stupid. Only the 8700K and 8400 are a valid choice for Intel. You may not like it but 2600X is still the better overall choice for most people.
Christian Thompson
>10nm. Whenever that comes out. delet dis
Jayden Brown
why is the 8600k stupid?
Justin Jenkins
What in the actual fuck. Why the fuck are you shilling for giga corporations you fuck? If you were saying "buy whichever is cheaper between 1070 ti and vega 56" nobody would bat an eye, but even OP suggesting Nvidia even though in the midrange market it is a fucking draw in most games and a blatant win if you consider memesync.
Sebastian Martin
Because benchmarks aren't real world performance. The real world of having a lower idle, boosting to 3.9-4.1ghz, and boosting to 4.35Ghz on 1-2 cores, is better than being fixed at a 4GHz UNDERCLOCK. > I dont feel comfortable having my CPU on 1.4V while performs worse. It's designed to go up to nearly 1.6v in short bursts.
Fuck off retard. That Vega56 is $385. Adaptive sync isn't a meme. Stop tricking people into screen tearing garbage.
Because you're paying $500 for the motherboard+cpu+cooler combo for only 6 threads versus ~$300 for 12 threads that is still within like 6% in single threaded.
Jacob Long
Because I'm an idiot. Feels bad man, for my first PC I've fucked up so much. >Everyone else says it's easy first time >Mfw installing mobo
Just make sure you put the io shield in before you put your mobo in your case Once you've got the mobo in then it's plain sailing
Henry Rodriguez
so i take it the thread's official amd shill stopped namefagging?
Charles Turner
Requires aftermarket cooler, fast RAM and Z mobo for little real world improvement. You basically pay a stupid amount of money for what you can get cheaper with either the 8400 or 2600X.
Jason Miller
THANKFULLY some user a few threads ago told me about that and I remembered.
That thing was a bitch to push in because it kept pushing my mobo out of place
You can still figure out who he is with how he is seething and shilling see this nigga is saying benchmarks are fake now and thinks screen tearing is noticeable above 100 fps. He even admits intel is better for gaming but still says "buy amd because you get more threads even though you are gonna use half of them".
Matthew Cruz
hurry up and show me your pc you spastic dont forget to download msi mystic light and the app for your phone so you can fuck about with the rgb lighting
dont copy my teal/turqoise colour scheme
Gabriel Campbell
my amd r5 2600 just came in today, but i dont have the rest of the parts. i opened the box to inspect it, and during my inspection i got some glue from the bottom of the fan on my finger. did i just fuck all that glue up or am i fine?
This seething shill says you're guaranteed over 100fps in every game. lmfao
Ayden Diaz
yes and no. customer service is trash compared to scorptec but prices are 5-10 difference.
Mason Baker
prices are so bad in ausfagland I would buy a ps4 today if it was on sale.
Justin Cruz
A 1070ti/1080 gets easily 100+ in most games faggot. Even if it gets 80 in rare ocassions you still can't notice screen tearing. I bet you don't even use memesync anyways
Jaxson Robinson
>Requires aftermarket cooler, fast RAM and Z mobo for little real world improvement.
Are you talking about the 2700x?
Camden Wilson
8600K, don't be stupid.
Tyler Johnson
hi im the guy that made the underclock advice
yes the boost to 4.2 on ryzen is nice for single cores but the idle temps/volts are higher than a manual OC, and performs worse on benchmarks
it might not be "real world" performance but if it benchmarks higher using less volts thats a win for me
Jordan Rivera
Alright bros I'm coming across another problem I accidentally put gpu power cable into this slot since the little pins fit.
Then I took another look online and apparently it's wrong? So I looked at my cousin cable and the pins don't match the pins on the mobo. Here's cpu power plug
nvidia (((OPTIMIZED))) some games to perform better, and might have also optimized intel chips to work with nvidia better, but that was years ago and is frowned upon in the industry
650w is because today's hardware is a bit beefier and hungrier when it comes to power, and your better having a higher headroom for thermal efficiency, load balance and higher OC ability when you YOLO the pc 4 years down the line
Charles Garcia
Corsair 500R, will be a tight fit though
Camden Sanchez
And here's the mobo slot for me to put power into. It doesn't match.
Ok nevermind. The semiround plugs are universal or something. Gonna go stick it in.
Austin Ortiz
What's going to be my best cpu/gpu combo for a build totaling around 1200?
Samuel Green
You have to change the thermal paste now. It's not hard.
Logan Gomez
Cheapest FreeSync monitor is $300 Cheapest G-Sync monitor is $500 Both are 1080p 144Hz. Is G-Sync worth the extra $200? I have a GTX 1060 so I won't hit 144fps in many games.
